Byron Jones - Workout Warrior

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Byron Jones vs Washington Wk. 13 – Scouting Report
Byron was moved around a lot during his initial NFL season, he played outside corner, slot corner and Safety. I decided to study film of a game he played at the Safety position since it appears as though that is where the coaches want to play him moving forward.


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I have always thought of it as a compliment to be considered a "workout warrior." As such, it most assuredly doesn't mean a player is bereft of the required talent and abilities to to be labeled as a success. The fact that he found more early success as a safety doesn't necessarily mean his skills as a CB wouldn't have eventually proven successful there. If he'd been afforded yet another year to develop at that considerably more demanding position, I think it's conceivable that his development in year two might have done great favors for his reputation.

Moving Jones around constantly throughout his rookie year did precious little to aid his cause in making a favorable impression and, in fact, did exactly the opposite. Dallas has long been prone to moving players around to make up for their frequent lack of depth at crucial positions. In any event, Byron should prove invaluable as a FS and a sure-fired improvement over anyone we've recently employed there in coverage.
 

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Byron Jones vs Washington Wk. 13 – Scouting Report
Byron was moved around a lot during his initial NFL season, he played outside corner, slot corner and Safety. I decided to study film of a game he played at the Safety position since it appears as though that is where the coaches want to play him moving forward.


Follow the link for the full story
http://nflbreakdowns.com/cowboys-byron-jones-workout-warrior/

Good stuff -- thanks for posting.
 

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I have always thought of it as a compliment to be considered a "workout warrior." As such, it most assuredly doesn't mean a player is bereft of the required talent and abilities to to be labeled as a success. The fact that he found more early success as a safety doesn't necessarily mean his skills as a CB wouldn't have eventually proven successful there. If he'd been afforded yet another year to develop at that considerably more demanding position, I think it's conceivable that his development in year two might have done great favors for his reputation.

Moving Jones around constantly throughout his rookie year did precious little to aid his cause in making a favorable impression and, in fact, did exactly the opposite. Dallas has long been prone to moving players around to make up for their frequent lack of depth at crucial positions. In any event, Byron should prove invaluable as a FS and a sure-fired improvement over anyone we've recently employed there in coverage.

I agree with the workout warrior sentiment. Why be insulted by being considered extremely talented athletically? It's a plus especially considering we're talking about athletes.

I really wish the coaches would've allowed Jones to focus on one position from the beginning as well. I really hope he's allowed that opportunity this coming season. I think he is really going to turn some heads at the Safety position over the next few years.
 

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I agree with the workout warrior sentiment. Why be insulted by being considered extremely talented athletically? It's a plus especially considering we're talking about athletes.

I really wish the coaches would've allowed Jones to focus on one position from the beginning as well. I really hope he's allowed that opportunity this coming season. I think he is really going to turn some heads at the Safety position over the next few years.

I'm unsure as to whether or not he'll prove to have the ball skills to be an interceptor of passes throughout his career as a free safety but it has been said that he made more than enough "little plays" while at Connecticut to make up for any deficiency in the turnover department.

Those "in the know" seem to think that that tendency should continue to provide him favorable acclaim as he mans the FS spot for Dallas.
 

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I'm unsure as to whether or not he'll prove to have the ball skills to be an interceptor of passes throughout his career as a free safety but it has been said that he made more than enough "little plays" while at Connecticut to make up for any deficiency in the turnover department.

Those "in the know" seem to think that that tendency should continue to provide him favorable acclaim as he mans the FS spot for Dallas.

Yeah that's what I am hoping. I'm no scout or anything, but I watch the way he moves, anticipates and reacts and I am impressed. I believe the thing holding him back somewhat is the anticipation and hopefully with more experience he'll improve and that will only make his reaction time that much better. After that it's about making plays, it would be great if he could hold on for picks, but consistently batting down passes and disrupting plays would be an upgrade over what we've had.
 

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Byron Jones vs Washington Wk. 13 – Scouting Report
Byron was moved around a lot during his initial NFL season, he played outside corner, slot corner and Safety. I decided to study film of a game he played at the Safety position since it appears as though that is where the coaches want to play him moving forward.


Follow the link for the full story
http://nflbreakdowns.com/cowboys-byron-jones-workout-warrior/


Is this article supposed to be a joke? In every video posted in the article, Jones is at least 10 yards away from the play. He is still a huge question mark at FS. The only thing he proved last year is that he is really good at covering tight ends, something he will rarely be asked to do as a single high safety in the Cover 1/Cover 3 shells Marinelli uses for most of the game.

His athleticism RARELY showed up on the field.
 

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Is this article supposed to be a joke? In every video posted in the article, Jones is at least 10 yards away from the play. He is still a huge question mark at FS. The only thing he proved last year is that he is really good at covering tight ends, something he will rarely be asked to do as a single high safety in the Cover 1/Cover 3 shells Marinelli uses for most of the game.

His athleticism RARELY showed up on the field.

Still getting after that chicken. You're the mirror opposite of the pet cat draft narcissists.
 

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Is this article supposed to be a joke? In every video posted in the article, Jones is at least 10 yards away from the play. He is still a huge question mark at FS. The only thing he proved last year is that he is really good at covering tight ends, something he will rarely be asked to do as a single high safety in the Cover 1/Cover 3 shells Marinelli uses for most of the game.

His athleticism RARELY showed up on the field.

Your input is appreciated. The analysis was more about the traits that Jones displayed not the plays that he did or didn't make. BTW you're free to your opinion but let's not make things up Jones wasn't 10 yards away from the play in every video, the ball was thrown his way in some and he made tackles in others.
 

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I have always thought of it as a compliment to be considered a "workout warrior." As such, it most assuredly doesn't mean a player is bereft of the required talent and abilities to to be labeled as a success. The fact that he found more early success as a safety doesn't necessarily mean his skills as a CB wouldn't have eventually proven successful there. If he'd been afforded yet another year to develop at that considerably more demanding position, I think it's conceivable that his development in year two might have done great favors for his reputation.

Moving Jones around constantly throughout his rookie year did precious little to aid his cause in making a favorable impression and, in fact, did exactly the opposite. Dallas has long been prone to moving players around to make up for their frequent lack of depth at crucial positions. In any event, Byron should prove invaluable as a FS and a sure-fired improvement over anyone we've recently employed there in coverage.

I always looked at the term 'workout/combine warrior' as being a slight to your actual ability on the field. It's the same as people who excel in a comfortable classroom environment with very little variables or moving parts but then are not that great in the real world.

Byron leaves a lot to be desired, especially being a 1st rd pick. But we will see how he progresses over the next few seasons. We need all the help we can get in the defensive backfield.
 

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People seem to forget he also played at UCONN. Not exactly a powerhouse, or high level competition.

He was a rookie last year, and showed flashes, which is about what you expect. We'll see what kind of improvements he makes!
 

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People seem to forget he also played at UCONN. Not exactly a powerhouse, or high level competition.

He was a rookie last year, and showed flashes, which is about what you expect. We'll see what kind of improvements he makes!

No you see since he was on no one's radar he was supposed to be enshrined in Canton after his rookie year to show how good he really was.:rolleyes:
 

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I like Byron a lot, but I was expecting him to show a little more playmaking ability as a rookie. I just hope they left him be a safety and nothing else, if they think that's his best position. Don't move him to CB when the injuries come (because they always do), if he's a safety then let him be a safety.
 

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I always looked at the term 'workout/combine warrior' as being a slight to your actual ability on the field. It's the same as people who excel in a comfortable classroom environment with very little variables or moving parts but then are not that great in the real world.

Byron leaves a lot to be desired, especially being a 1st rd pick. But we will see how he progresses over the next few seasons. We need all the help we can get in the defensive backfield.
Because the whole "workout warrior" thing pretty much became a common saying with Mike Mamula who sucked in the NFL. Ever since then, he has been used as the example as someone who kills it in the combine or pro day workouts, which is a bit unfair.
 

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Because the whole "workout warrior" thing pretty much became a common saying with Mike Mamula who sucked in the NFL. Ever since then, he has been used as the example as someone who kills it in the combine or pro day workouts, which is a bit unfair.

Funny thing about Mamula is he 31.5 sacks in the 5 seasons he was on the field for a not terrible 6 sacks per season.

Two of those seasons he had 8+ sacks.

Had he not been drafted in the top 10 (he went 7th) I don't think he'd be as infamous.
 

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Funny thing about Mamula is he 31.5 sacks in the 5 seasons he was on the field for a not terrible 6 sacks per season.

Two of those seasons he had 8+ sacks.

Had he not been drafted in the top 10 (he went 7th) I don't think he'd be as infamous.

He was also an Eagle. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
 

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Mo getting lined up by a rookie, but some of you still believe in that scrub lol.

Yeah, good point. I'll freely admit that it took me a while but I have given up on Mo being anything that remotely resembles a first round talent. I will settle for serviceable (fingers crossed).
 

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Funny thing about Mamula is he 31.5 sacks in the 5 seasons he was on the field for a not terrible 6 sacks per season.

Two of those seasons he had 8+ sacks.

Had he not been drafted in the top 10 (he went 7th) I don't think he'd be as infamous.

Excellent point. Minus the hype, and selected in the second round, he'd have been a good pick and a forgotten name.
 
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