Calling All Romo Haters

[ElGatoGrande]

Romo is not a small QB and doesn't need a clean pocket for best results. He's an athletic playmaking QB who can move around and make plays when his protection breaks down. If he needed a clean pocket for best results he would have never passed for over 4000 yards last season and had a career high completion percentage and passer rating. Some of his best plays have come outside the pocket. Everyone acts like Brees has all day to throw but there's times he has to move outside the pocket to extend a play. Go review the Saints playoff game vs SF and see how many "clean" pockets Brees had that day. He was sacked 3 times and avoided several more because of his mobility.

In the playoffs where the intensity level is up several notches QB's aren't going to see many clean pockets. Eli certainly didn't see many clean pockets in the NFC title game. Like I've said many times if everything around Romo has to be perfect for him to lead the Cowboys to a championship they'll never win one under him. If you complied a top 10 list of Romo's greatest plays most of them were when he was under duress and was able to use his athletic ability to make something out of nothing. It's the incredible plays he's made when his protection has broken down that has some fans here putting him ahead of QB's who've won multiple SB's.

Hogwash,,, you'll never get any kind of consistent positive results with a collapsed pocket and your QB running around like Fran Tarkenton. This is magnified when your QB is only 6'0-6'2 and has a harder time seeing the secondary with the entire line in his lap.

Now step back and wait for the rest of the mutual admiration society to show up and tell you how right you are...

 

[birdwells1]

Hogwash,,, you'll never get any kind of consistent positive results with a collapsed pocket and your QB running around like Fran Tarkenton. This is magnified when your QB is only 6'0-6'2 and has a harder time seeing the secondary with the entire line in his lap.

Now step back and wait for the rest of the mutual admiration society to show up and tell you how right you are...

KJJ IS RIGHT.:laugh2:

 

[KJJ]

The job of a GM is to build a Super Bowl caliber team.

Which statement most closely resembles your feelings?

Jerry Jones is a good GM.

Jerry Jones is a bad GM.

Jerry's not a good GM most Cowboy fans would agree with that no matter how skewed their views are on Romo but Romo's had the talent around him to win a SB. He may not have had the talent around him last season but in previous seasons he has and anyone who knows football and isn't one of his apologists will tell you that. He had a terrific team around him in 07 that had 13 pro bowlers. Next to NE there wasn't a more explosive offense in the NFL than the Cowboys during the 07 season. Even Aikman said that was a more explosive offense than any on his 3 SB winning teams.

From 07 to entering the 2010 season the Cowboys were regarded as one of the most talented teams in the NFL....FACT! If Romo was stuck on as many bad, talentless teams as some of you apologists claim in your desperate attempts to defend him the Cowboys wouldn't have been one of the SB favorites heading into the 08 and 2010 seasons. The Cowboys were being picked by most because of their talent. Everyone was picking the Cowboys to win the NFC after their 12-1 start in 07.

You fans who keep spinning that Romo hasn't had the teams around him to win a championship simply because the team keeps coming up short with him are either apologists or are completely blind to the facts. What's hilarious I'm sure most of you fans (apologists) have posts on this board talking up those talented teams the Cowboys had at the time but NOW claim they all sucked and poor ol Tony has been a victim of bad teams like Archie Manning. :laugh2: Some of the fans here are so ridiculous they were talking up last years up and down Cowboys team that was clearly mediocre claiming that team was good enough to win the SB. You can bet those same fans who were talking up last years team as being SB caliber are the same fans ripping the past teams Romo had that were loaded with pro bowlers all because he self destructed in Dec/Jan those years.

 

[KJJ]

Hogwash,,, you'll never get any kind of consistent positive results with a collapsed pocket and your QB running around like Fran Tarkenton. This is magnified when your QB is only 6'0-6'2 and has a harder time seeing the secondary with the entire line in his lap.

Now step back and wait for the rest of the mutual admiration society to show up and tell you how right you are...

If I wanted to invest the time I could post video highlight after video highlight of the positive results QB's have had in playoff games running around with a collapsed pocket. Do you remember "The Catch?" Go back and see if Joe Montana had a clean pocket on that play....NEXT!

 

[ufcrules1]

Someone is on a roll....

 

[gbrittain]

Jerry's not a good GM most Cowboy fans would agree with that no matter how skewed their views are on Romo but Romo's had the talent around him to win a SB. He may not have had the talent around him last season but in previous seasons he has and anyone who knows football and isn't one of his apologists will tell you that. He had a terrific team around him in 07 that had 13 pro bowlers. Next to NE there wasn't a more explosive offense in the NFL than the Cowboys during the 07 season. Even Aikman said that was a more explosive offense than any on his 3 SB winning teams.

From 07 to entering the 2010 season the Cowboys were regarded as one of the most talented teams in the NFL....FACT! If Romo was stuck on as many bad, talentless teams as some of you apologists claim in your desperate attempts to defend him the Cowboys wouldn't have been one of the SB favorites heading into the 08 and 2010 seasons. The Cowboys were being picked by most because of their talent. Everyone was picking the Cowboys to win the NFC after their 12-1 start in 07.

You fans who keep spinning that Romo hasn't had the teams around him to win a championship simply because the team keeps coming up short with him are either apologists or are completely blind to the facts. What's hilarious I'm sure most of you fans (apologists) have posts on this board talking up those talented teams the Cowboys had at the time but NOW claim they all sucked and poor ol Tony has been a victim of bad teams like Archie Manning. :laugh2: Some of the fans here are so ridiculous they were talking up last years up and down Cowboys team that was clearly mediocre claiming that team was good enough to win the SB. You can bet those same fans who were talking up last years team as being SB caliber are the same fans ripping the past teams Romo had that were loaded with pro bowlers all because he self destructed in Dec/Jan those years.

I think he has had one Super Bowl caliber team you see that he has had more than that...and that was talent only. Clearly the coach leadership was not there.

I may be a Romo apologist as you call it...but I think I will refer to you as the everybody but Romo apologist going forward. :wink2:

 

[zrinkill]

I will refer to you as

I know what the rest of us refer to him as.

 

[KJJ]

I think he has had one Super Bowl caliber team you see that he has had more than that...and that was talent only. Clearly the coach leadership was not there.

The coach and leadership has never been there even on the one team you think was SB caliber. You only credit the 07 team as being SB caliber because it ended 13-3 but not even that team got as far as the 09 team.

 

[KJJ]

I know what the rest of us refer to him as.

Hopefully you'll DM what you refer to me as this time. :laugh2:

 

[zrinkill]

Hopefully you'll DM what you refer to me as this time. :laugh2:

Definitely not a designated marksman.

 

[DFWJC]

The coach and leadership has never been there even on the one team you think was SB caliber. You only credit the 07 team as being SB caliber because it ended 13-3 but not even that team got as far as the 09 team.

Didn't they both lose in the second round?

 

[ElGatoGrande]

If I wanted to invest the time I could post video highlight after video highlight of the positive results QB's have had in playoff games running around with a collapsed pocket. Do you remember "The Catch?" Go back and see if Joe Montana had a clean pocket on that play....NEXT!

Wow, this thread is stacking up as a Grade A flame-out for you, with every example of canard, dodge and straw man rolled out for good measure. lol,,,

 

[KJJ]

Didn't they both lose in the second round?

Yes they both lost in the second round but the 09 team won in the first round while the 07 team had a bye and their QB was relaxing with his Hollywood girlfriend in Cabo.

 

[DFWJC]

Yes they both lost in the second round but the 09 team won in the first round while the 07 team had a bye and their QB was relaxing with his Hollywood girlfriend in Cabo.

My point is the same; simply that they both exited in Rd 2. And the the 2007 same made a far greater showing in that Rd 2 game than the '09 version.

 

[KJJ]

Wow, this thread is stacking up as a Grade A flame-out for you, with every example of canard, dodge and straw man rolled out for good measure. lol,,,

The ones who've contributed intelligently in this thread are being amused watching fans like you crash and burn with every post.

 

[zrinkill]

Wow, this thread is stacking up as a Grade A flame-out for you, with every example of canard, dodge and straw man rolled out for good measure. lol,,,

Yup .....

 

[KJJ]

My point is the same; simply that they both exited in Rd 2. And the the 2007 same made a far greater showing in that Rd 2 game than the '09 version.

The 2007 team was well rested entering the second rd and had the home field advantage. They were playing a team they beat twice during the regular season so that explains the far better showing. Regardless the 09 team did what the 07 team couldn't do they won a playoff game over a divisional opponent they had beaten twice that season.

 

[gbrittain]

The coach and leadership has never been there even on the one team you think was SB caliber. You only credit the 07 team as being SB caliber because it ended 13-3 but not even that team got as far as the 09 team.

You are correct and that is why I believe only the talent was Super Bowl quality.

The 07 team was a good route as opposed to a bad route (Patrick Crayton) away of appearing in a NFC championship game.

The 09 team was not a good route away, but they did win a Wild Card game, but got smashed in the equivalent 07 game. Not worth arguing either way though the end result was the same.

I will tell you what I believe and certainly would not argue the point but just throwing it out there.

In the first NFC championship game that Dallas played SF back in the 90s, Jimmy had thoroughly (IMO) prepared the Dallas Cowboys for that game...and the game ended up being a classic that Dallas won. Wade would not have had that team prepared and Dallas would have lost. Now you can't compare eras, quality of the Dallas Cowboys then and now nor you can you compare the quality of the opponent then and now...in all fairness.

However, I believe a quality coach such as Jimmy Johnson would have had Romo and the Cowboys better prepared than Wade Phillips and I truly believe the Cowboys would have been victorious. Of course this is all just speculation and I am not going to argue with anyone on the point.

However the point is quality coaching matters and that is more than just the actual Xs and Os during the game.

But internally for me, I believe coaching is not underrated and it matters. If Wade Phillips is good coach, Romo is a HOF lock.

 

[KJJ]

Now step back and wait for the rest of the mutual admiration society to show up and tell you how right you are...

I have stats and facts to support my position instead of blowing hot air post some stats and facts to support yours. :toast: You have one fan agreeing with you and that's because he has issues with me. If you said the world was flat he would agree as long as your views oppose mine. :laugh2:

 

[DFWJC]

I have stats and facts to support my position instead of blowing hot air post some stats and facts to support yours. :toast: You have one fan agreeing with you and that's because he has issues with me. If you said the world was flat he would agree as long as your views oppose mine. :laugh2:

Actually, KJJ, I agree with some of your posts. Some of your oppositiondo go overboard, and off on tangents.

But just because you say you have stats that support your "facts" does not make it true. You spend a lot of time using selective stats to support your thoughts and then ignore the general stats that disprove it because your stats, of course, have more meaning.

Look, this thread is a little oasis for you guys that back Romo. You are outnumberd at least 7-8 to 1 overall on this board though.
Run any poll and see the outcome. I'm not even saying a majority makes anythng right. But don't say you are actually in the majority.
Not even close.
People just get weary of responding to this stuff.