Calling our CZ cap experts

[coult44]

No offense to the rest of you, I'll include myself in Your group. But I want to hear from the guys here who truly know the cap, and understand most of the rules associated with it.

I've heard so many numbers by so called "football guys" about where we are now, and where we will be in the next several months. My questions are these.

With the increase, the restructures, the cuts, and the add. What is our current cap situation? Where will we be after June cuts? Any more restructures coming? Basically I'm looking for a State Of The Cowboys Cap Address.

Again, I'm looking for those few people here who could do this for a living. Not from guys like me, who have a very strong opinionated view of things, and forget sometimes exactly what we have To work with.

 

[erod]

All I know is this.

The cap is a myth. Sure, there's a number you have to stay under, but if you really want a guy, you can make it work with the endless tools they have to restructure contracts.

Not really anyone left to go get though of significant cost.

 

[Joe Realist]

 

[John813]

Paging @AdamJT13

 

[Beats_By_Zeke]

The way I see it, and how I heard Broddaus explain it on talking cowboys...The cap is a fictitious rule or guideline. Since the NFL is just a game and has no ramifications on finances outside the game, it allows the owners to do what they please. For example, Teams like the Cowboys can ride as close to the Cap as much as they want, as long as they keep restructuring and pushing dead money into the future. They can keep doing this year after year because there is no fear of bankruptcy or such. Other teams like the Jags can spend very little, but that new rule that was implemented after the lockout tried to fix that. That's the way i see the cap as.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

@coult44 Everything you need to know and all the tools are available at overthecap.com and spotrac.com.

The cap isn't as big a deal as it used to be. The cap has gotten so high that many teams are under it by a good bit. Teams have money but don't want or need to spend it. Rather put it in their own pockets than pay some players. And the cap can be manipulated any way you want.

The big thing for teams is having cash on hand and the ability to pay signing bonuses. Jerry has plenty of cash to pay out any signing bonuses he wants or to convert base salary into signing bonuses. Signing bonuses must be accounted for or set in an escrow account, I think. Many of the owners are extremely rich and have plenty of cash. Atlanta's owner can afford anything. Same with Seattle's owner, same with Jerry, same with Giants' owner, etc.

 

[fredp22]

there was a member -I think his name was Adam13 that was a wiz at the cap. I dont show him as a member now so dk if hes still around.

anyway cant you get 80% of what your asking from spottrac?

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/

 

[Nightman]

As of right now we are 10.6m under the cap
The cap was 155.2m and we rolled over 3.6m and got a 400k adjustment for a total of 159.2m

That includes McClain-3.3m, Mo-2.7m, Thornton- 2.2m, Hanna- 1.75, Wilber- 1.5m, Leary- 2.6m, Heath- 1.6
Charles Brown and Josh Thomas count for 600k each even though they are making 760k
That is 16m in space

DAL could create space a few other ways

If they cut Carr they get 6.4m
If they June 1st cut him they get 9.1m

other potential cuts and their savings:
Church 4.25m
Gachkar 1.3m
TMcClain 1m
Wilcox 1.6m
Street 200k
KMoore 300k

They already restructured TSmith-8m and TCrawford-6m, here are others
Dez- 6.1m- guaranteed
Romo- 5.6m
Witten- 2.7m
Scandrick- 3.1m
Lee- 1.7m

They need 4.5m or so for draft picks but they don't need that until June.
They will need another 2m+ for the full 53 man roster, practice squad and IR

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Those suck. Fraud, you're no expert.

 

[bsheeern]

Paging @AdamJT13

this man is the man

 

[Nightman]

Right now 10.6m under
I would June 1st cut Carr for 9.1m
Restructure Dez for 6.1m
Cut Wilcox for 1.6m
Cut Heath for 1.6m

Total under cap = 29m

Sign Hardy- 6m
Sign a CB- 3m, even re-sign Carr
Sign Reggie Bush type RB- 1m
Sign Rookies- 4.5m, Goff, Dodd, Collins
Sign RGIII/QB2- 3m

Leaves roughly 12m for injuries, contingencies, trades and rollover to 2017

 

[Nightman]

there was a member -I think his name was AdamJT13 that was a wiz at the cap. I dont show him as a member now so dk if hes still around.

anyway cant you get 80% of what your asking from spottrac?

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/

He is still here. I was in a thread with him yesterday.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Is that 4.5m for rookies in addition to the amount that is already accounted for by the players they will replace in the 51? If so that seems like a high number. Right now those 9 spots are counting like 5m, so it seems like 9.5m for rookie pool would be a lot.

 

[Nightman]

Is that 4.5m for rookies in addition to the amount that is already accounted for by the players they will replace in the 51? If so that seems like a high number. Right now those 9 spots are counting like 5m, so it seems like 9.5m for rookie pool would be a lot.

The 4.5m is how much net space they need to set aside because of the Rule of 51.

The total amount of cap space will be around 9.2m but you have to subtract 450-525k for each player signed when they bump someone off the top 51 list.

 

[Nightman]

Down to around 9m after re-signing Dunbar

 

[Longboysfan]

Always believe what Adam has to say.

 

[Longboysfan]

anyway cant you get 80% of what your asking from spottrac?

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/

Thank you.

Much better breakdown the over the cap.

 

[LittleD]

this man is the man

AKA: Stephen Jones@DC.com

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Down to around 9m after re-signing Dunbar

So with rookies, we are really playing with around 4.5m right now, correct?

 

[YosemiteSam]

Paging @AdamJT13

This guy does not exist anymore.

I am the new Cap Guru, and this is how much free cap space we have!