Camp Battles

[Doomsday101]

Ellis' whining gets on my nerves also, but he's very business-like while on the field. There's one thing to keep in mind in my opinion. Wade Phillips may have a shaky head coaching resume, but he's one of the best defensive coordinators in my book. If he doesn't believe that we don't have anyone who can surplant Ellis as the outside linebacker opposite Ware, then I'm not going to argue the point very much. That doesn't mean that I won't like the decision though.

I agree. If someone can take the job from Ellis great but thus far Ellis has been able to hold his own and continues to produce. Right now Spencer has not been lighting up the league he has 4 sacks in 2 years? If Ellis played like that people would be having a Cow. Like many I don't want to hear Ellis off-season complaints but come training camp and the reg season Ellis is doing the job.

 

[jobberone]

This is the same coaching staff that couldn't find a replacement to surplant Proctor or a back up better than Brad Johnson. So I still question their decision making.

That's on the offensive side of the ball. I'm not there, but I believe Wade gives a little too much authority to his underlings esp on the other side of the ball.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

That's on the offensive side of the ball. I'm not there, but I believe Wade gives a little too much authority to his underlings esp on the other side of the ball.

So shouldn't the offense be even better prepared since Wade is this genius HC. I mean people talk about how RW got picked up and how he was targeted. You really think Proctor wasn't a constant target?

 

[jobberone]

So shouldn't the offense be even better prepared since Wade is this genius HC. I mean people talk about how RW got picked up and how he was targeted. You really think Proctor wasn't a constant target?

You missed the point. I'm saying Wade gives too much authority to the guys on the offense and stays on his side too much. I don't really know that but that's the appearance and rumor. I fault him for not faulting the guys on that side of the ball making poor decisions.

While I believe Proctor is not as bad as some make out, it's apparent he is not starting material. Maybe he'll be much better this year. Who knows. People were ready to run Gurode outta here and he took off. Not saying Proctor will but you and I and the rest here really don't know. And I don't know what you mean about RW. RW38 or the WR?

 

[DaBoys4Life]

You missed the point. I'm saying Wade gives too much authority to the guys on the offense and stays on his side too much. I don't really know that but that's the appearance and rumor. I fault him for not faulting the guys on that side of the ball making poor decisions.

While I believe Proctor is not as bad as some make out, it's apparent he is not starting material. Maybe he'll be much better this year. Who knows. People were ready to run Gurode outta here and he took off. Not saying Proctor will but you and I and the rest here really don't know. And I don't know what you mean about RW. RW38 or the WR?

38.

Maybe you should rewatch the games were proctor started.

 

[DallasEast]

So shouldn't the offense be even better prepared since Wade is this genius HC. I mean people talk about how RW got picked up and how he was targeted. You really think Proctor wasn't a constant target?

Who made the assumption that Wade Phillips was a 'genius head coach' ?

 

[Hoofbite]

This is the same coaching staff that couldn't find a replacement to surplant Proctor or a back up better than Brad Johnson. So I still question their decision making.

They did find a replacement, he got hurt.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Who made the assumption that Wade Phillips was a 'genius head coach' ?

I think I meant DC. Like if he was going to prepare a defensive game plan against the cowboys last year where would be their first point of attack. OBV it would be proctor IMO.

 

[DallasEast]

I think I meant DC. Like if he was going to prepare a defensive game plan against the cowboys last year where would be their first point of attack. OBV it would be proctor IMO.

Well, I agree with that premise, but if Phillips is delegating more authority for offensive gameplanning to his offensive coordinator, he's not being proactive enough on the offensive side of the ball for a reason. Perhaps that reason is to focus more on the defense than the offense. I'm not trying to gift wrap an excuse for Phillips, but maybe there is an explanation for why he doesn't take a more hands-on approach on that side of the ball...

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Well, I agree with that premise, but if Phillips is delegating more authority for offensive gameplanning to his offensive coordinator, he's not being proactive enough on the offensive side of the ball for a reason. Perhaps that reason is to focus more on the defense than the offense. I'm not trying to gift wrap an excuse for Phillips, but maybe there is an explanation for why he doesn't take a more hands-on approach on that side of the ball...

Well considering Stewart was in charge of the D last year and everyone was still coasting on the 13-3 season and 13 pro bowls it's clear to see why/how things went wrong and the mindset of the coaching staff thinking keeping everything in place would mean equal or better success.

 

[DallasEast]

Well considering Stewart was in charge of the D last year and everyone was still coasting on the 13-3 season and 13 pro bowls it's clear to see why/how things went wrong and the mindset of the coaching staff thinking keeping everything in place would mean equal or better success.

I can go along with that as long as an appropriate amount of blame can also be placed on the players' shoulders as well. The outcome of some games appeared to suffer due to personal lack of motivation on the players' part. While that's one of the head coach's responsibilities, it's the players' responsibility to respond in kind--even if teammates are taken out of games due to injuries, etc.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I can go along with that as long as an appropriate amount of blame can also be placed on the players' shoulders as well. The outcome of some games appeared to suffer due to personal lack of motivation on the players' part. While that's one of the head coach's responsibilities, it's the players' responsibility to respond in kind--even if teammates are taken out of games due to injuries, etc.

Yeah some games they looked as though they didn't even want to play. Or they couldn't sustain it for four quarter.s

 

[TD-33]

As good as the opposition looks for the year defensively; all 3 made/have major improvements for the year like Osi being back for example, our O-Line could be the deciding factor now. They let Romo get hit like last year and things will get ugly FAST.

 

[RS12]

WR: Stanback vs Ogletree/Johnson. I think the first 4 are set, Williams, Austin, Crayton, Hurd. Hurd offers good ST play and has shown some chemistry with Romo not to make the team. Stanback has been a project for two years, can't stay healthly, and was Ireland's pet cat, not JJ. I'm leaning towards Ogletree making it as the 5th WR.

Have to agree with the other posters, Hurd not a lock. He is a pedestrian journeyman wideout with a low ceiling. If Stanback stays healthy he makes the team because he can also play special teams and take snaps in the wildcat. Also Jerry does like him alot. I think the guy they are pulling for is Ogletree based on what I read. If healthy he has game breaking speed.

 

[RS12]

CB: D. Smith vs ball vs vet. Newman, Jenkins, Scandrick, Mikens are locks. Coaches love Ball and he has shown improvement in his first two years. Will see if D. Smith can play CB in the NFL or if he is strictly a FS. I see a vet being signed, since Newman has shown a sign of breaking down the last couple of years.

Unless he falls flat on his face Deangelo Smith is a lock to make the team. Defensive backs that can cover in todays NFL are like pitching in baseball, can never have too much. Not to mention Smith is another special teamer.

 

[Rampage]

I'm interested to see what some of the new LB'rs bring to the table.

special teams and depth. there I answered it for you.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

special teams and depth. there I answered it for you.

I'm going to hope that they can push some one so that we can make a roster change.

 

[Rampage]

I'm going to hope that they can push some one so that we can make a roster change.

won't happen. Wade already said Spencer will start but since he's shown very little you have to keep Ellis. Ellis is also good for 3rd down/nickel situations. Carp ain't going anywhere cause behind James and Brooking there is only Carp, Williams and a former safety learning a new position in Hodge.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

won't happen. Wade already said Spencer will start but since he's shown very little you have to keep Ellis. Ellis is also good for 3rd down/nickel situations. Carp ain't going anywhere cause behind James and Brooking there is only Carp, Williams and a former safety learning a new position in Hodge.

Who care bout those bums.

 

[Rampage]

Who care bout those bums.

I figured that's who you were referring to when you were talking about roster changes.