Can any team compete with the Dallas Cowboys

speedkilz88;3041332 said:
If there is no cap, playoff teams will be restricted in free agency. I think its where they can only sign someone when they lose one. Players that get cut in salary dumps on the other hand will be available without the restrictions.

The restrictions would be placed on all playoff teams who reach the divisional round.

Wild card losers would be exempt.

I don't know if the NFL would let teams just sign players released by their former teams because of salary under the new system. That would get around the entire point of the rules and they were written to discourage the uncapped year from ever taking place.

I know the current system doesn't count such moves when determining eligibility for compensatory draft selection.
 
Bluefin;3041385 said:
The restrictions would be placed on all playoff teams who reach the divisional round.

Wild card losers would be exempt.

I don't know if the NFL would let teams just sign players released by their former teams because of salary under the new system. That would get around the entire point of the rules and they were written to discourage the uncapped year from ever taking place.

I know the current system doesn't count such moves when determining eligibility for compensatory draft selection.
When they are cut they become "street free agents" so to speak so they wouldn't be restricted like those with expired contracts.
 
Yakuza Rich;3041288 said:
Paul Allen makes Snyder and Jerry COMBINED look like a bunch of minimum wagers.

As far as the Yankees go, people don't recognize that Steinbrenner is nowhere near the richest owner in MLB. He is just willing to spend more, take a loss in revenue if he absolutely has to and aggressively market his team. I'm not sure how that is the Yankees fault or how that is a bad thing that one owner is willing to do more for his team than the other owner's who have far more money.

Anyway, it appears that the only uncapped year will be 2010. I don't think there will be a lot of FA's available and the one thing I'm curious about is if owner's go crazy to get a big name FA, how will that effect them when the cap comes back in 2011? I get the feeling that the uncapped year will not be that big of a deal in the end.


YAKUZA

Well said and the Yankees are just plyaing within the rules of MLB as Steinbrenner is putting money back into his team to win championships unlike other owners. The Pirates owner is a prime example of one who pockets the money and does not reinvest into his team. There is revenue sharing in MLB and it is up to the indiviudal owner of how he wants to spend the money or pocket it. On side note, I read some where where the Angels owner was lowering beer prices at his stadium and his executives in the organization thought it was a bad idea. He asked them don't you think people would buy more beer. Sure enough, beer sales revenue increased from the previous year. That is a smart owner.
 
I highly doubt there is an uncapped year in 2010.

I believe the two sides will come to an agreement.
 
brooksey1;3041108 said:
in an uncapped era in regards to payroll?

There won't be any "uncapped era", count on it...

There might well be an uncapped SEASON, but the rules of that won't work to the Cowboys' advantage, unless they tank the rest of this season... you see, teams that finish high in the standings will be quite restricted as to how active then can be in free agency; at the highest level, you'll only be able to sign a player if you lose a player, and then only for the amount of money that the player you lose signs with another team for...

Only the bad teams will be able to open up their checkbooks, and really, it's unlikely that even they'll get that crazy, because when a new CBA is negotiated, it will include some form of salary cap, and a free-spending team will be stuck with a whole bunch of big deals impacting that cap...
 
RS12;3041155 said:
Lil Danny boy has money to burn. Proves that every year.

And Danny Boy might well be short-sighted enough to try to buy a championship next year... he might be desperate to get the fans off of his back, desperate enough to go for it all next year even if it screwed him on down the line...

Yeah, I could see him spending like a drunk sailor on shore leave this coming offseason...
 
Yakuza Rich;3041288 said:
Paul Allen makes Snyder and Jerry COMBINED look like a bunch of minimum wagers.

As far as the Yankees go, people don't recognize that Steinbrenner is nowhere near the richest owner in MLB. He is just willing to spend more, take a loss in revenue if he absolutely has to and aggressively market his team. I'm not sure how that is the Yankees fault or how that is a bad thing that one owner is willing to do more for his team than the other owner's who have far more money.

You're wrong, Rich... the secret to Steinbrenner's approach is the cable money he rakes in from the YES network (a deal which pays the Yankmees more than their ticket receipts do)... he's not taking any loss in revenue, count on it; the Yankmees are very, very profitable...

Anyway, it appears that the only uncapped year will be 2010. I don't think there will be a lot of FA's available and the one thing I'm curious about is if owner's go crazy to get a big name FA, how will that effect them when the cap comes back in 2011?

On this one, you're exactly right, IMO...the crop of free agents will be restricted, and owners will have to factor in the years after 2010... but as I noted in my last post, somebody like Snyder might be desperate enough to field a winner NOW that he'll go reckless in the offseason...
 
Aikbach;3041318 said:
You can't buy a team in football, this isn't baseball.

Chemistry is important unlike in the dugout or outfield where its a series of individuals.

Only person to ever buy a team was the 1994 49ers and it was one and done after that.

Ask the Commanders if you can buy a team.

Quite the contrary. You most certainly COULD buy a team in football. You get starting quality players along the Defensive line, all of your cornerbacks are legit #1 starters for any team, safeties and their back-ups, linebackers same.

Then get Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, and Miles Austin as your starting 3 WR's.

Pick up quality offensive line back-ups.

Of all sports, buying a team is probably the easiest. Every win = $$$ and we've got the best GM in the league for milking every cent out of each one.

If the NFL goes to a soft cap with a dollar for dollar penalty for going over, you can bet Stephen and Jerry know how far they can go over with each additional win offsetting the penalty in terms of ticket sales, merchandising, and brand growth.
 
SaltwaterServr;3041665 said:
Quite the contrary. You most certainly COULD buy a team in football. You get starting quality players along the Defensive line, all of your cornerbacks are legit #1 starters for any team, safeties and their back-ups, linebackers same.

Then get Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, and Miles Austin as your starting 3 WR's.

Pick up quality offensive line back-ups.

Of all sports, buying a team is probably the easiest. Every win = $$$ and we've got the best GM in the league for milking every cent out of each one.

If the NFL goes to a soft cap with a dollar for dollar penalty for going over, you can bet Stephen and Jerry know how far they can go over with each additional win offsetting the penalty in terms of ticket sales, merchandising, and brand growth.

I agree man in both the player aspect and the jerry jones aspect. That guy has done a lot of enviable things for that franchise. I really want to make a trip down to dallas for a seahawks vs cowboys game one of these years just to check out that stadium. It looks awesome on tv and in madden.
 
Other teams and fans are going to give us an asterick (sp) if we buy a championship, saying that we couldn't do it without a big payroll. That will kind of bum me out.

I say we just win it all this year. Then buy the next one. ;)
 
silverbear;3041649 said:
There won't be any "uncapped era", count on it...

There might well be an uncapped SEASON, but the rules of that won't work to the Cowboys' advantage, unless they tank the rest of this season... you see, teams that finish high in the standings will be quite restricted as to how active then can be in free agency; at the highest level, you'll only be able to sign a player if you lose a player, and then only for the amount of money that the player you lose signs with another team for...

Only the bad teams will be able to open up their checkbooks, and really, it's unlikely that even they'll get that crazy, because when a new CBA is negotiated, it will include some form of salary cap, and a free-spending team will be stuck with a whole bunch of big deals impacting that cap...

Excellent analysis SilverBear.

A. There are so many rules in place for 2010 that the only teams that can spend like a druken sailor will be the bottom feeders.

B. Unless there is a new CBA, expect a strike/lockout before the 2011 season. Nobody is going to play ball without a CBA in place, just aint gonna happen.

C. When a new CBA is agreed to eventually, there will be some form of salary cap in place. Some say it might be a "soft cap" and some say it might be a "luxary tax" paid to the league and distributed to small market teams, possibly a dollar for dollar penalty for being over the cap. Or they might just bring back a hard cap like they have now. Either way, there will be some sort of cap in the new CBA and if teams have a bunch of big contracts from the non cap year, they are going to be freaking screwed when the cap comes back.

D. As much as I would love to see Dallas become the "Yankees of the NFL", it would hurt the game severly if only a handful of teams were in contention every year. That is why I am in favor of some sort of salary cap to prevent the high revenue teams from "buying championships".
 
Rampage;3041112 said:
I hope teams do. I despise the yankees for buying championships.

You do know the Yankees havent won a world series since 2000 right?
 
Rampage;3041112 said:
I hope teams do. I despise the yankees for buying championships.


Its popular to say but it isnt true.

The Yankees won their 4 in 5 years with farm players and "some" acquisitions... some players in their twilight that resurrected their careers.

When they Yankees tried to buy the WS - they lost. 2001 & 2003.

In fact, the Arizona Diamondbacks BOUGHT that 2001 WS. They brought in Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling and made them pitch just about the entire WS.


Whats more... the Yankees spent in the 80's and won nothing.


So, while it is popular to say. It just aint true.
 
I dont care as long as we start winning some more Super Bowls. The salary cap era hasnt exactly been good to us.
 
If the deal is for one year, an uncapped season would mean nothing but If it becomes a multi-year deal and we enter an "uncapped era" with luxury tax etc, it will favor the Cowboys.
 
Yakuza Rich;3041288 said:
Paul Allen makes Snyder and Jerry COMBINED look like a bunch of minimum wagers.

As far as the Yankees go, people don't recognize that Steinbrenner is nowhere near the richest owner in MLB. He is just willing to spend more, take a loss in revenue if he absolutely has to and aggressively market his team. I'm not sure how that is the Yankees fault or how that is a bad thing that one owner is willing to do more for his team than the other owner's who have far more money.

Anyway, it appears that the only uncapped year will be 2010. I don't think there will be a lot of FA's available and the one thing I'm curious about is if owner's go crazy to get a big name FA, how will that effect them when the cap comes back in 2011? I get the feeling that the uncapped year will not be that big of a deal in the end.





YAKUZA



Paul Allen could spend more but he would not make more. He does not have the marketing power that Jerry has which means his spending spree would be short lived while Jerry could do it year in and year out. The Players union has also stated ,that once the cap is over there is no way they re-sign this deal.
 
I think the cap is crap in some ways.A team should be allowed to keep players that they drafted,instead of losing them in free agency because of a lack of cap room.I also think that some owners would like to see the cap re-structured in a way that would eliminate a minimum payroll requirement,they could put more money in their pockets that away.

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