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on lj's long catch and run to the redzone, didn't it look like burnett had coverage responsibilities but was completely fooled by LJ's fake block? THat stuck out to me because its little things like that that are the differences between our D killing our team or putting in a solid effort.
 

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Tio;1263931 said:
on lj's long catch and run to the redzone, didn't it look like burnett had coverage responsibilities but was completely fooled by LJ's fake block? THat stuck out to me because its little things like that that are the differences between our D killing our team or putting in a solid effort.

By all accounts, that's correct. Burnett thought Smith was staying in to block, so he blitzed. Maybe he was supposed to do that, but it seems rather risky to me. And it burned us.
 

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AdamJT13;1263938 said:
By all accounts, that's correct. Burnett thought Smith was staying in to block, so he blitzed. Maybe he was supposed to do that, but it seems rather risky to me. And it burned us.


That was just absolute stupidity on his part. He never committed to the blitz anyway and did not have a chance of getting there.

That play and the play by Witten at the goaline just has to make you scratch your head!
 

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i thought it was james who screwed up. james had no clue what was going on the whole game
 

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it was burnett. last night i think salsbury said it was jmaes but james came early and burnett was suppose to read the play,then rush if no one came out. you would think after 3 or 4 weeks of teams doing it they would catch on.
 

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3rd Downs are killing this Defense. We just can’t get anybody off the field. Had that long play not happened, it just would have been a longer time possession drive.
 

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aikemirv;1263942 said:
That play and the play by Witten at the goaline just has to make you scratch your head!

Witten? Witten blocked down like he was supposed to. Hoyte just didn't get out fast enough to pick up Mickell. If he gets there, it's an easy touchdown, like Parcells said.
 

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WOW...Slim Fast????
 

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AdamJT13;1263960 said:
Witten? Witten blocked down like he was supposed to. Hoyte just didn't get out fast enough to pick up Mickell. If he gets there, it's an easy touchdown, like Parcells said.

True, I don't know how Hoyte completely missed the guy like that.
 

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Doomsday101;1263966 said:
True, I don't know how Hoyte completely missed the guy like that.

He just didn't get there fast enough. It's that 5.01 speed shining through.
 

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AdamJT13;1263972 said:
He just didn't get there fast enough. It's that 5.01 speed shining through.


I'm sorry but I see no way that a FB is going to beat the pitch and the RB to the outside and block that guy.

He is just not going to get there! He had no angle to get there and no chance period!

And if that is the design then it is the coaches fault not Hoytes
 

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AdamJT13;1263972 said:
He just didn't get there fast enough. It's that 5.01 speed shining through.

I don't think speed had nothing to do with it he did not even make an attempt at the block as if he did not know where he was suppose to be on the play.
 

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I really want to see that play again. Does anybody have it available?
 

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Yesterday on the Normathon on The Ticket, Charlie Waters mentioned that it could have been Demarcus Ware's responsibility to cover LJ Smith on that play.

He said that LJ Smith started off by blocking down on Ware and Burnett went after Garcia at that point. Then, LJ Smith releases and thinks that it might have been a switch situation where since Smith blocked Ware, Ware should have switched from blitzing to covering him as he released.

I don't know, sounds like a lot to ask of a single player. "Hey Burnett, you cover the TE unless he blocks someone else, if he does that then you rush. Ware, if the TE blocks down on you, you stop rushing and cover him if he happens to release."

Regardless, we look like the most pathetic team in the NFL when we blitz. The Eagles have blitzing and stunting down to perfection! We look like its the first time we've ever even thought of it and have NEVER practiced it.
I've seen high school teams that are better with their blitzing than we are.
 

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aikemirv;1263974 said:
I'm sorry but I see no way that a FB is going to beat the pitch and the RB to the outside and block that guy.

He is just not going to get there! He had no angle to get there and no chance period!

And if that is the design then it is the coaches fault not Hoytes
If you guy's are talking about the 4th and goal on the 2 yard line, it wasn't that Hoyte couldn't get to the defender. The defender ran right by him. Hoyte simply didn't see him or didn't recognize that he should have blocked him.
 

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aikemirv;1264000 said:
I really want to see that play again. Does anybody have it available?

It's on most of the highlight reels including the one at nlf.com.

At first I thought Hoyte had no chance, but after looking at it again, Hoyte hesitated and certainly could have made the block. Now I'm not positive it would have been a walk-in touchdown, but Barber would have had a decent chance to score.
 

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AdamJT13;1263938 said:
By all accounts, that's correct. Burnett thought Smith was staying in to block, so he blitzed. Maybe he was supposed to do that, but it seems rather risky to me. And it burned us.


I would love to see us do that with Barber.
 

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aikemirv;1263974 said:
I'm sorry but I see no way that a FB is going to beat the pitch and the RB to the outside and block that guy.

He is just not going to get there! He had no angle to get there and no chance period!

And if that is the design then it is the coaches fault not Hoytes

Hoyte took a bad angle at the start. He was running as if Mikell was going to be where he was when the ball was snapped, but he blitzed -- just like he did on the previous two plays. By the time Hoyte saw Mikell flash past him, it was too late. A quicker, more-experienced fullback probably would have been able to get out more quickly, adjust to the blitzer and block him deeper, allowing the running back to cut up a little, then walk in the end zone to the outside.

As far as the design of the play, a jab step by the tailback might have allowed the fullback to get there more ahead of the back, but it also would allow the pursuit to get there quicker. And without the blitzer coming off the egde like that, you don't need your fullback that far in front. If Mikell hadn't blitzed, Hoyte would have blocked him, and Barber would have run to the outside.
 

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AdamJT13;1263960 said:
Witten? Witten blocked down like he was supposed to. Hoyte just didn't get out fast enough to pick up Mickell. If he gets there, it's an easy touchdown, like Parcells said.

You are absolutely right on this. On the Burnette play, you know, they get paid too, and sometimes it is just a great call by the offense. Doesn't make it ok, but it happens.
 
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