Can we let go of our Super Bowl pretensions?

[GimmeTheBall!]

It's a fairly obvious response in a thread suggesting the Cowboys season is over at 2-2.

Not over, Mr. Rhetoric, but an indicator that this team is not taking us far in the playoffs. Much less your imagined Super Bowl.

 

[BigD16]

Patriots should let go of their SB aspirations too.

They have a real head coach.

 

[Idgit]

Not over, Mr. Rhetoric, but an indicator that this team is not taking us far in the playoffs. Much less your imagined Super Bowl.

I'm not one to go predicting Superbowls. For the same reasons I don't rule them out for 2-2 teams.

If your point is that two losses in four games is not good, well, thanks for sharing that fascinating and controversial tidbit. It's great that we now have a thread for it.

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

A team that performs like a bottom-rung team with a HC without vision or toughness should not have its fans speculating about the SB.
Let us worry about winning the NFC East from the Eagles, first. This Eagles are not talented as we, but they are tougher than the Cowboys.
Sitting at 2-2 gives no team a license for aiming higher than its division.
Burma shave.

This is an awesome observation from someone who has denounced partaking in the NFL. Amazing

 

[CowboyRoy]

After week four, you mean? Got it. Hey, you gave them four games. Nobody can fault you for not being thorough. You could have given up on them after the Giants game.

Amazing. You show a complete inability to analyze yet everyone else has the issue.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I'm not one to go predicting Superbowls. For the same reasons I don't rule them out for 2-2 teams.

If your point is that two losses in four games is not good, well, thanks for sharing that fascinating and controversial tidbit. It's great that we now have a thread for it.

That one blind, blank statement can be said about every team in the league. "May happen, may not"

Thanks for the deep, spot on analysis there. Should we assume that mundane response is pretty much your response to everything? Shame on other people for having the conviction in their opinions that you clearly lack.

 

[CowboyRoy]

If you want to feel bad just for the sake of feeling bad, it's not my place to stop you. All I've said in this thread is that it really is too soon to say for any team at 2-2.

If you really want to keep believing otherwise, it's ok with me for you to be wrong.

How is it too soon? Watched this offense last year and it wasnt good enough. This year the offense is worse. Oline is worse, run game is worse, defense is worse. Doesnt take a genius to see that if LAST YEARS, better team couldnt do it, this worse version wont either.

But by all means keep insulting those of us that have an opinion.

 

[CowboyRoy]

How can you conclude I'm a homer based off of me saying you can't say anything definitive about any 2-2 team? That's not even necessarily a pro-Cowboys statement. It's just math.

You can pretend it's flawed all you want. The reality is, you don't get a good idea of who the real contenders are in an NFL season until after Thanksgiving.

These "analyses" aren't anything but garden variety knee-jerk overreactions. Deep down, you guys know it, too.

Or the other conclusion. That we see quite clearly and you just dont get it.

 

[CowboyRoy]

The reality is, homer McSuper Bowl, is that these Cowboys players are being prodded by Jason Garrett. It won't end well.
In your heart, you know I'm right. 2-2 is never a good precursor, matey!

During the game they quoted Dak as saying that he felt entitled after he finally beat the Giants. That he took Denver lightly and didnt respect them enough because he thought he had arrived. When they got destroyed by Denver it was humbling.

Isnt it the head coaches job to make sure this type of attitude never creeps in? This is where Jimmy was so great and a clown like Garrett fails miserably.

 

[Idgit]

That one blind, blank statement can be said about every team in the league. "May happen, may not"

Thanks for the deep, spot on analysis there. Should we assume that mundane response is pretty much your response to everything? Shame on other people for having the conviction in their opinions that you clearly lack.

Not sure how to say even more clearly than I have that what you're doing is not actually "analyzing" anything. You have insufficient data for an actual analysis.

Yes, it's safe to assume I won't confuse wild-***-guessing with actual analysis or try to pass one off as the other. Thanks for clarifying that for everybody.

 

[CWR]

No one should feel like we are going to the superbowl after our start to the season. However, its early and still possible the team gels and peaks later in the year. Weve made alot of changes and have been missing key players for various reasons. I for one expect this defense to be better later in the year. I also understand how much Lee and Hitchens are needed. Its the nfl and things change through out the season. Lets hope the best is yet to come.

 

[dfense]

A team that performs like a bottom-rung team with a HC without vision or toughness should not have its fans speculating about the SB.
Let us worry about winning the NFC East from the Eagles, first. This Eagles are not talented as we, but they are tougher than the Cowboys.
Sitting at 2-2 gives no team a license for aiming higher than its division.
Burma shave.

So much of a difference eh? Eagles kick a 61 yard field goal to be 3-1 barely edge out a 0-3 Chargers team after previously beating a winless Giants team the week before. So tough they are. The Eagles defense just gave up 713 passing yards the last two weeks to winless teams.

Ironic how last year coaches and scheme could do no wrong. Winning almost every game, ball control, time of possession, keeping the defense fresh. Fast forward one year and things aren't so black and white. Bad coaching, predictable scheme, no vision. lol

Coach of the year can't coach this year. lol

 

[Rockport]

A team that performs like a bottom-rung team with a HC without vision or toughness should not have its fans speculating about the SB.
Let us worry about winning the NFC East from the Eagles, first. This Eagles are not talented as we, but they are tougher than the Cowboys.
Sitting at 2-2 gives no team a license for aiming higher than its division.
Burma shave.

I’m not giving up that hope. Not by a long shot.

 

[SultanOfSix]

I've had a hope (Romo gave me a lot of that), which always turned out to be a false one, but I've never had any real hope with this coaching staff.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Not sure how to say even more clearly than I have that what you're doing is not actually "analyzing" anything. You have insufficient data for an actual analysis.

Yes, it's safe to assume I won't confuse wild-***-guessing with actual analysis or try to pass one off as the other. Thanks for clarifying that for everybody.

What you realy mean is that YOU dont have enough data. I definitely need LESS data then you do to make an accurate prediction. Can you even make a prediction? Some would say no.

Yet..........8 years ago you had PLENTY of data to name Garrett the next great head coach right? I think some of these guys are correct. You show more than enough homer tendencies to me considered a homer at this point.

 

[CowboyRoy]

No one should feel like we are going to the superbowl after our start to the season. However, its early and still possible the team gels and peaks later in the year. Weve made alot of changes and have been missing key players for various reasons. I for one expect this defense to be better later in the year. I also understand how much Lee and Hitchens are needed. Its the nfl and things change through out the season. Lets hope the best is yet to come.

There is always that off chance. But at this point the percentages are fading fast.

 

[CowboyRoy]

So much of a difference eh? Eagles kick a 61 yard field goal to be 3-1 barely edge out a 0-3 Chargers team after previously beating a winless Giants team the week before. So tough they are. The Eagles defense just gave up 713 passing yards the last two weeks to winless teams.

Ironic how last year coaches and scheme could do no wrong. Winning almost every game, ball control, time of possession, keeping the defense fresh. Fast forward one year and things aren't so black and white. Bad coaching, predictable scheme, no vision. lol

Coach of the year can't coach this year. lol

He could never coach. Many on here laughed at the award. As stated, its a team success award and nothing more.

 

[Idgit]

What you realy mean is that YOU dont have enough data. I definitely need LESS data then you do to make an accurate prediction. Can you even make a prediction? Some would say no.

Yet..........8 years ago you had PLENTY of data to name Garrett the next great head coach right? I think some of these guys are correct. You show more than enough homer tendencies to me considered a homer at this point.

I'm just really not interested in listening to you pretend you can read the future by taking high-probability bets in week four. If you think you've seen enough to be sure, more power to you. You haven't, we all know you haven't, but if you want to believe you have, go for it!

But anybody can make a guess based on insufficient data. That's not a superpower only you posses, Roy. It's the guy in 2010 who knew a 3-3 Packer team would win a Superbowl who impresses me. Not really, because it was impossible to predict with any certainty in week 7 of that year that that GB team would put it all together and go on a run because--wait for it--it was too early in the season to predict accurately how the season, much less the playoffs, would turn out. But that's what this thread suggested we all do. In week 4. At 2-2.

My argument is that it's too early to say that for sure. Yours appears to be that it's more noble somehow to make a wild *** guess and pretend it's an "analysis" instead. It's not, of course. You're being silly again. But that appears to be how this all shakes out.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I'm just really not interested in listening to you pretend you can read the future by taking high-probability bets in week four. If you think you've seen enough to be sure, more power to you. You haven't, we all know you haven't, but if you want to believe you have, go for it!

But anybody can make a guess based on insufficient data. That's not a superpower only you posses, Roy. It's the guy in 2010 who knew a 3-3 Packer team would win a Superbowl who impresses me. Not really, because it was impossible to predict with any certainty in week 7 of that year that that GB team would put it all together and go on a run because--wait for it--it was too early in the season to predict accurately how the season, much less the playoffs, would turn out. But that's what this thread suggested we all do. In week 4. At 2-2.

My argument is that it's too early to say that for sure. Yours appears to be that it's more noble somehow to make a wild *** guess and pretend it's an "analysis" instead. It's not, of course. You're being silly again. But that appears to be how this all shakes out.

Its called an opinion buddy. Everyone is entitled to them. Even you. But you don't seem to have one. And all you can do is insult those of us that have one.

Is it 100% we have NO chance? That is not what people are saying. Let me clarify for you since you are having difficulty.

-Its more than likely based on this defense and this team after 4 games that we aren't going to the SB. Nothing definite about that. I would be willing to say somewhere like 85% we arent winning the SB.

So was it also a wild guess that Taco would do nothing this year? How about a wild guess that Romo was done? Or a wild guess that Dak was something special in preseason last year? Or maybe it was just a wild guess that Heath is terrible?

All these wild guesses that keep coming true. These things are all obvious to me. I dont know what to tell you. Maybe Im just lucky.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Not sure how to say even more clearly than I have that what you're doing is not actually "analyzing" anything. You have insufficient data for an actual analysis.

Yes, it's safe to assume I won't confuse wild-***-guessing with actual analysis or try to pass one off as the other. Thanks for clarifying that for everybody.

No, thank you for all the condescension. As a mod, instead of moderating you are berating. You have hurt my feelings.
Apologize!