Can WRs Roy Williams or Chad Johnson provide a "deep threat"?

[AMERICAS_FAN]

In Randy Galloway’s interview with Jerry Jones, Jones told him that getting a WR threat opposite T.O. was the team’s #1 priority and he was looking to a veteran over a draft pick. The possibilities are to trade with Detroit for Roy Williams or Cincinnati for Chad Johnson. Personally, I’m less concerned whether these guys are true #1 or #2 WRs (because they can be played interchangeably), but I’m more concerned over if either of these guys can provide the combination of a “deep threat” with “good hands” to match, that Dallas is currently lacking at the WR spot. Is either of these two guys considered burners with good hands?

Also, if Dallas does give up a draft pick (probably #22) for either Roy Williams or Chad Johnson then Dallas does not need to draft a WR. With the #28 pick and their second round pick they could still draft a CB and RB (or vice versa), and use all other remaining draft picks on the best player available without having to reach for WR. That’s because they will likely keep 6 WRs on the roster.

In essence, the top 4 WR spots will go to T.O., Chad Johnson or Roy Williams, Patrick Crayton and Terry Glenn (Jones expects Glenn to be healthy and on the roster by the way). That leaves 2 remaining spots and one will surely go to Isaac Stanback (sp?), leaving that last spot up for competition between Sam Hurd and Miles Austin (or anyone we may happen to draft, if by chance). Personally, I think Hurd gets that last spot because he produces more than Austin and for a #6 WR his production is good and more than you can ask for.

So as you can see, with the acquisition of Chad Johnson or Roy Williams, the need to draft a WR high completely goes away, and the depth chart can easily shape up like this:

#1 Starter: T.O. ; #1 Backup: Patrick Crayton or Sam Hurd (or Miles Austin)
#2 Starter: Chad Johnson or Roy Williams; #2 Backup: Terry Glenn or Isaac Stanback
#3 Starter: Patrick Crayton; #3 Backup: Isaac Stanback or Sam Hurd (or Miles Austin)

The more I think through this, the more I hope we give up the #22 pick for Chad Johnson or Roy Williams, provided one of them can provide the combination of a “deep threat” with “good hands” to match, because that completely solves the WR puzzle, and it opens up the rest of the draft to entirely work in Dallas’ favor.

So what do you guys think?

 

[Rampage]

yeah they can be deep threats. but i don't think 85 is leaving cincy. i also think roy will be a cowboy either this season or after next. probably after next season. i don't think were getting a wr this year unless it's roy and i doubt it happens. i mean after all it would be smart for millen to move roy while he can still get value. but since millen isn't very smart i doubt he moves him.

 

[slick325]

To be honest, I don't think it is a matter of this offense needing a "deep threat" with "good hands". I believe that what this offense lacks and lacked last season is a WR besides T.O. that can consistently make you pay for one on one coverage. Once the offense has a WR like that opposite T.O. it changes how defenses will play Dallas. No one would benefit more than Jason Witten.

With either Chad or RW11, not too many teams are going to leave them one on one too many times in a game. If they do so, it would be the same result as leaving Owens one on one consistently (envision both regular season Giants games and all the touchdowns T.O. had). Owens is not considered a "deep threat" receiver or a "burner" but he will hurt you badly if one on one too many times. The same applies to Ocho Cinco and Roy Williams.

With teams playing more zones against the offense or leaving their safeties over top to help on Owens and 85 or 11, Witten will kill teams down the seams and in soft holes in the zone. MBIII and the running game would benefit as well since the safeties can't play in the box too often.

Again, I think Dallas needs someone who beats one on one coverage consistently and of course once behind coverage can make a big play. Terry Glenn is or was a "deep threat" and has "good hands" but more than that, most teams 2nd CB couldn't handle him one on one. TG was a #1 type receiver.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Isaac Stanback just might turn out to be all we need.......maybe

 

[skinsscalper]

To be honest, I don't think it is a matter of this offense needing a "deep threat" with "good hands". I believe that what this offense lacks and lacked last season is a WR besides T.O. that can consistently make you pay for one on one coverage. Once the offense has a WR like that opposite T.O. it changes how defenses will play Dallas. No one would benefit more than Jason Witten.

With either Chad or RW11, not too many teams are going to leave them one on one too many times in a game. If they do so, it would be the same result as leaving Owens one on one consistently (envision both regular season Giants games and all the touchdowns T.O. had). Owens is not considered a "deep threat" receiver or a "burner" but he will hurt you badly if one on one too many times. The same applies to Ocho Cinco and Roy Williams.



With teams playing more zones against the offense or leaving their safeties over top to help on Owens and 85 or 11, Witten will kill teams down the seams and in soft holes in the zone. MBIII and the running game would benefit as well since the safeties can't play in the box too often.

Again, I think Dallas needs someone who beats one on one coverage consistently and of course once behind coverage can make a big play. Terry Glenn is or was a "deep threat" and has "good hands" but more than that, most teams 2nd CB couldn't handle him one on one. TG was a #1 type receiver.

We have a winner!

 

[BARRYRAY]

Agree--that Stanback is the wow man. Are you kidding this guy hasn't even made a play and you think he's all pro or something. we'll trade for a vet and Stanback will be toting gatorade for Wade. Nobody transitions from a qb to a stud receiver in one year, just doesn't happen....

 

[Kolemmitt]

To be honest, I don't think it is a matter of this offense needing a "deep threat" with "good hands". I believe that what this offense lacks and lacked last season is a WR besides T.O. that can consistently make you pay for one on one coverage. Once the offense has a WR like that opposite T.O. it changes how defenses will play Dallas. No one would benefit more than Jason Witten.

With either Chad or RW11, not too many teams are going to leave them one on one too many times in a game. If they do so, it would be the same result as leaving Owens one on one consistently (envision both regular season Giants games and all the touchdowns T.O. had). Owens is not considered a "deep threat" receiver or a "burner" but he will hurt you badly if one on one too many times. The same applies to Ocho Cinco and Roy Williams.

With teams playing more zones against the offense or leaving their safeties over top to help on Owens and 85 or 11, Witten will kill teams down the seams and in soft holes in the zone. MBIII and the running game would benefit as well since the safeties can't play in the box too often.

Again, I think Dallas needs someone who beats one on one coverage consistently and of course once behind coverage can make a big play. Terry Glenn is or was a "deep threat" and has "good hands" but more than that, most teams 2nd CB couldn't handle him one on one. TG was a #1 type receiver.

I completely agree with this whole sentiment. My question is if we cant get Ocho Cinco or Roy, then could a rookie, namely Sweed, Jackson, Hardy, or Kelly provide that #2 threat?

 

[Oh_Canada]

Great hands and deep threats are overrated, the Giants won a Super bowl with the most drops in the league and unless you consider Plax much more of a deep threat than T.O, missing one of those as well.

 

[slick325]

I completely agree with this whole sentiment. My question is if we cant get Ocho Cinco or Roy, then could a rookie, namely Sweed, Jackson, Hardy, or Kelly provide that #2 threat?

This is a very weak year for drafting a WR. There is no one that I believe can come in and be better than Crayton next season. Some WR's in this class can develop into good #2 WR's or even an eventual #1 (Devon Thomas, Kelly, maybe Hardy). Sure one of them may surprise everyone and be a lights out player but the odds are against it. WR's bust more frequently than almost any other position.

WR is one of the hardest positions to adjust to in the NFL. Running the right routes, staying low in your breaks without losing speed (fundamentals), knowing the entire playbook, adjusting to the speed of the game and adjusting to the physicality of the CB's are major adjustments for rookie WR's. Not being able to pick these things up right away would prevent a rookie from beating one on one coverage consistenly, IMO. Crayton knows the game and would be better in '08 than most of the WR's in this draft but he too struggles beating one on one coverage consistently.

Just my two pennies.

 

[Romo2Dez4six]

i don't know about a deep threat, but provide what we need a good second WR

 

[jswalker1981]

Both can get deep, but I don't think a "deep threat" is why we need a WR. Rather a WR that can eliminate the double teams from Owens. And if it either RW, CJ, or Boldin, than both WRs would benefit from having single coverage.

 

[Shady12]

Roy Williams is a deep threat..and even ran a sub 4.4 at the UT Pro Day.

 

[juck]

Honestly RW is alot like T.O. but not the same breakaway speed,but bigger.I would prefer Johnson because the guy is great and has fire like T.O.

 

[Shady12]

I'd say he's about the same in speed with better hands and actually not quite as big as TO..

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

Who is throwing the ball deep?

 

[Rampage]

Who is throwing the ball deep?

:laugh2: ......wait a minute

 

[wick]

Honestly RW is alot like T.O. but not the same breakaway speed,but bigger.I would prefer Johnson because the guy is great and has fire like T.O.

Roy's at least as fast as Owens but doesn't play as big even though he has good size.

 

[Verdict]

I don't think it would cost a #1 to get either Ocho Cinco, or Roy Williams. I'm guessing a third will get it done.

 

[JonJon]

If we can't get Cinco or Johnson this year via trade, I would still go after a player like Jordy Nelson and then target Michael Crabtree from Texas Tech next year (assuming he comes out). He would be all the deep threat and speed we would need, and is already ten times better than DeSean Jackson.

 

[Da Hammer]

we dont need a "deep threat" with players the caliber of Johnson or Roy but still its not like they are slow but have great speed and can run any route designed by Garrett. this team just needs someone that can get consistently open when T.O is not on the field or is being shutout.