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2nd round, #51: Oregon SS Patrick Chung

It might sound crazy, but Patrick Chung could be our "star" player, they lined him up at CB at Oregon in some packages, and he's certainly athletic and fluid enough to hang with WRs, the star position would allow Chung to roam around, and just make plays using his instincts and quick, closing burst, instantly becomes a leader on special teams, brings sure-tackling and explosive-hitting to the secondary

3rd round (from Cleveland), #69: Richmond DE Lawrence Sidbury Jr.

Long, linear pass-rusher with long arms and huge hands used to battle OTs, has a decent spin move and great explosion, good lateral agility, fluid in LB drills

4th round (from Detroit), #101: Alabama C Antoine Caldwell

Versatile player who has won All-American honors at both LT and C, a sound technician with great burst at the snap and short-area quickness, smart and aware, plays with a low center of gravity, adept at snapping from the shot-gun, also capable of playing at LG

4th round, #117: Pittsburgh ILB Scott McKillop

Very productive, instinctive player who sees the play developing, knows where to attack to achieve maximum positioning, a good athlete aware enough to cover TEs and backs in the flat, a sure-tackler with some pop, 2-time, All-BigEast and '08 Big East Player of the Year

5th round, #156: Georgia Tech DT Vance Walker

Short, squatty player that holds up well against double-teams and against the run, flashes enough quickness to penetrate into the backfield, has a decent rip move, good short-area burst, fits in well in an aggressive D, provides quality rest for Jay Ratliff

5th round (from Tennessee), #166: Marshall WR Darius Passmore

Former JUCO star made the most of his 2 years in West Virginia, very smooth athlete who has the best 3-cone time in the draft (6.53), does a very good job of high-pointing and extending to make the difficult reception, often used in Marshall's Wild-cat formation, rushing 21 times for 195 yards and 2 TDs in '08

5th round (Compensatory), #172: Stillman DT Sammie Lee Hill

Raw, naturally strong player, possesses great quickness and athleticism for a man his size (6'4" 329), attributes so good that he was moved to DE as a Senior, good bull-rush, has long arms and upper body strength he uses to swat away offensive linemen's attempts to hold him at the line

6th round (from Miami), #197: Texas DE Henry Melton

Admittedly, I don't know much about this guy, other than the fact that he's raw, but he has some good triangle numbers, that is for sure, a 34 1/2" vertical and 10'01" broad-jump showcases some good explosion, great 40 and decent 10-yard for a 269lb. player

6th round (Compensatory), #208: Tennessee State OT Cornelius Lewis

Big and strong OT who may have to move inside to OG, good drive-blocker with pop, handles the bull-rush well and is an intimidator, adequate initial quickness, experience at OG and both T positions

7th round (from Detroit), #210: LSU FS Curtis Taylor

Here thus ends the Patrick Watkins and Courtney Brown expirament, Taylor is a stout safety with great explosion, also has good speed and range in coverage, capable of backing up at both free and strong safety, special team's contributor

7th round, #227: North Carolina OT Garrett Reynolds

Tall, tough OT with the required lower-body build, power and pop, good initial quickness and can sustain blocks, potential 10-year starter at the strong-side, right tackle position in the Pros
 

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I could live with that.

But what do you think of J Byrd instead of Chung in the Star role?

Byrd definitely has better cover skills, and they are both about the same weight. I think their 40 times are nearly identical as well.

I think as a SS type, Chung would be preferable. But as a Star position player or even a FS, I think Byrd may be better.

Also, Roy Miller vs. V Walker? Do you prefer Walker more?
 

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Woods;2710862 said:
I could live with that.

But what do you think of J Byrd instead of Chung in the Star role?

Byrd definitely has better cover skills, and they are both about the same weight. I think their 40 times are nearly identical as well.

I think as a SS type, Chung would be preferable. But as a Star position player or even a FS, I think Byrd may be better.

Also, Roy Miller vs. V Walker? Do you prefer Walker more?

I like Chung's hitting ability a little, bit more, I just get visions of Troy Polamalu in my head thinking about Chung as the "star" safety, allowed to roam around and decapitate anyone who gets in his way, Chung is also good at breaking on the ball when he's roaming the immediate middle of the field, whoever is the "star" safety will being doing essentially the same thing Polamalu is, so he'd have to be a very good tackler as he might be the last guy to make the tackle

Byrd hasn't run yet, so I'm not sure how fast he is

I like both Vance and Roy alot, probably equally, just NFLDS has Walker ranked a couple of rounds higher, I could easily take LarDarius Webb of Nicholls State at 156 and take Roy later instead
 

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Good value there in many places.

I'd move Henry Melton to ILB immediately. He'd have to lose 15 pounds but he could be a real serious run stopper there. Not sure he has the frame for a lot more weight at DE in a 3-4.

I'd also move Garrett Reynolds to TE. He'd be a strictly blocking TE but I don't think he can play OT for us with his size. However as a 3rd and strictly blocking TE he could fit real nice and also block on special teams. And I'd imagine he could get his 2 catches per year in the end zone with his height and long arms being an asset.

I don't think Chung is a star position guy at all. He is more of a traditional rover who wacks people then a guy who lines up and runs with them. But he does have good instincts and seems to get to the ball pretty well.
 

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...Sigh.....

you are slurping Chungs hitting wayyyyyyyy to much..If I want that then I'll draft an extra linebacker.
 

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SLATEmosphere;2710893 said:
...Sigh.....

you are slurping Chungs hitting wayyyyyyyy to much..If I want that then I'll draft an extra linebacker.

*as you wipe Delmas matter off your chin*

I'm not overvaluing his hitting, NFLDS says few in the draft have his ability to explode into the ballcarrier and wrap up, he's one of the few defensive backs in this draft who can drive you into the ground, he's not an ankle-grabber like William Moore, or a drag-down tackler like Louis Delmas
 

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I don't see any real issues with any of those picks....maybe Passmore in the 5th. Overall, somethng like that could actually happen, imo.
 

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JerryAdvocate;2710902 said:
*as you wipe Delmas matter off your chin*

I'm not overvaluing his hitting, NFLDS says few in the draft have his ability to explode into the ballcarrier and wrap up, he's one of the few defensive backs in this draft who can drive you into the ground, he's not an ankle-grabber like William Moore, or a drag-down tackler like Louis Delmas

Like I said..give me another LB instead of Chungy.
 

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Slate with all the slurping you have done for Delmas, you aren't in a position to call out someone else on a player.
 

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I really like the Cornelius Lewis pick and Curtis Taylor pick. That is great value.

Lawrence Sidbury JR. ....Lighting candles...;)


I'm taking him at 51.

I wrote Tyronne Green into the second 4th rounder slot. The team talked to Levitre, and it they like him, Green would be an option as a OG/C. However, he's a little raw, and Caldwell is rated higher.

I like Samie Lee Hill. He's raw but has potential.

You took a WR in round 5. That is where I like Mike Wallace. I like Quinn Johnson in round 5, too. The Eagles might snag him if the Cowboys wait until round 6. They pick twice before we do.

Back to Cornelius Lewis:

Bunting rates him as a 3rd-4th rounder and had him in his top 100. I wouldn't mind taking him in round 5. I wonder where he will go, what round. I've seen him rated in the 5th-6th round.

I think the Cowboys will have a chance to add depth inside in this draft. Tackle looks bleak, so I would draft two players who could play guard, just in case Leonard Davis has to slide to LT if Adams gets hurt.
 

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headhunterroy05;2711047 said:
Slate with all the slurping you have done for Delmas, you aren't in a position to call out someone else on a player.


:laugh2: I can say whatever I want..and there's a bunch of people and websites(since most people look to that since they can't make thier own judgement) that echo my thoughts..

Delmas>>>>>>>>Chungy

End of discussion..BYE.
 

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SLATEmosphere;2711066 said:
:laugh2: I can say whatever I want..and there's a bunch of people and websites(since most people look to that since they can't make thier own judgement) that echo my thoughts..

Delmas>>>>>>>>Chungy

End of discussion..BYE.

NFLDS, the best site out there has Chungy ahead of Delmas

sorry guy
 

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Most have them ranked both in round 2-3, but it's anyone's guess as to whom will be better in the NFL. You just keep thinking that he is the only one that has a chance to be the best. And I like Delmas amongst others, I think Rashard Johnson could end up better than Delmas. That's why the draft is fun.
 

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headhunterroy05;2711154 said:
Most have them ranked both in round 2-3, but it's anyone's guess as to whom will be better in the NFL. You just keep thinking that he is the only one that has a chance to be the best. And I like Delmas amongst others, I think Rashard Johnson could end up better than Delmas. That's why the draft is fun.

IDK I heard Johnson may of been a system player so i'll pass on him. Sometimes you know which players will just suck. Like Bobby carp...

I like this mock I was about to put the second half of your mock into my latest one. Freaky.
 

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headhunterroy05;2711154 said:
Most have them ranked both in round 2-3, but it's anyone's guess as to whom will be better in the NFL. You just keep thinking that he is the only one that has a chance to be the best. And I like Delmas amongst others, I think Rashard Johnson could end up better than Delmas. That's why the draft is fun.

If you read any of my past posts, you'll see that I like alot of the safeties in this class..I just HATE drafting Chungy at 51..I think it's a complete waste, Just like drafting Rashad,Cook,Hamlin or Bruton at 51..Delmas is the only one that's worth that spot..I only put down the Chung picks because I think he's a special teamer and solid backup in the NFL at most..
 

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SLATEmosphere;2711327 said:
If you read any of my past posts, you'll see that I like alot of the safeties in this class..I just HATE drafting Chungy at 51..I think it's a complete waste, Just like drafting Rashad,Cook,Hamlin or Bruton at 51..Delmas is the only one that's worth that spot..I only put down the Chung picks because I think he's a special teamer and solid backup in the NFL at most..
plus his name is Chung
 
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