CFZ Can't wait to be dazzled by this coming offseason

[MikeT22]

It makes no sense how we see the impact a playmaking TE can make whether it’s Gronk, Kelce or even our own like Novacek and Witten yet we only address it with day 3 picks or UDFAs.

Not saying we need to draft one in the first, but maybe at least use a day 2 pick on one once or twice a decade.

 

[Mannix]

I am 100% positive that Booger and Chuckles already have some kind of handshake deal with OBJ....then they will both lean back, fold their arms in front of them, and give us their best cocky Barney Fife sneer.....mission complete will be the thought.

 

[KJJ]

Cut Elliot.

Do not tag Pollard.

For the love of God stop putting resources into the TB position outside of a late mid round pick semi-annually.

We can’t move on from both backs, especially our best playmaker. We may have no choice but to tag Pollard. We can’t just keep losing talent and expect to stay with Philly. We can’t afford to go through another offseason where we’re losing good players while they keep adding good players.

 

[Coogiguy03]

Because Jerry and Stephen are consumed with PR. And they know it looks bad every offseason if they just sit out FA. So they float this idea the Cowboys are looking at this guy and that guy to make it look like we are active.

Jerry and his bozo son are that vain.

Agree with this!!

 

[khiladi]

3 best moves Dallas can make:

1. Extend Dak. He’s your longterm QB, you’re not moving off from him anytime soon. Once you accept this reality, extending him now makes much more sense than restructuring him and then just extending next offseason. Huge cap windfall, would free up 23m$ in cap space.

2. Extend Trayvon Diggs. Likely price: 5 years 110m$, 8m$ 2023 cap hit

3. Sign Yannick Ngakoue. Always build to your strengths: Give Micah breathing room to return to the player he used to be. Quinn wasn’t just playing Micah too much at DE to try and get him sacks, he did it because he had to based on your personnel. DLaw just isn’t the pass rush force he used to be. Dorance Armstrong benefited from Micah playing on the line, but completely fell off when Micah moved back to OLB; in the last 11 games he had 3.5 total sacks. Because he bottomed out like that, he started the season with 5 sacks in 6 games and still couldn’t hit double digit. He’s a good asset to have, but not consistently reliable… particularly if Micah is played in his best role.

Here’s one of the craziest statlines I bet no one here is aware of: Yannick has been in the nfl for 7 years. He’s already played on 4 different teams, for 5 different defensive schemes. He has never had a season with less than 8 sacks! He’s unbelievably underrated. At 27 years old he already has 65 career sacks, and you probably won’t need to pay him anything close to top market price for DE. He likely goes for Haason Reddick money. Yannick also has 21 forced fumbles already through his career. That’s 3 strip sacks a season, on average. He’s a monster and would fix all kinds of problems Dallas had last year.

Extend Dak.. nice try Philly fan

Other than that, quality post. In fact, you post a lot of quality even as an Eagles fan and are an asset to this board.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

We can’t move on from both backs, especially our best playmaker. We may have no choice but to tag Pollard. We can’t just keep losing talent and expect to stay with Philly. We can’t afford to go through another offseason where we’re losing good players while they keep adding good players.

We can obviously move on from both backs. Literally this draft is littered with TB talent. The chiefs just wont he superbowl with a 7th round rookie who led the game in rushing.

this belief that rbs can't easily be replaced is so weird.

 

[KJJ]

We can obviously move on from both backs. Literally this draft is littered with TB talent. The chiefs just wont he superbowl with a 7th round rookie who led the game in rushing.

this belief that rbs can't easily be replaced is so weird.

The draft doesn’t guarantee anything. Pollard is our best playmaker we can’t afford to lose him. The last time we moved on from our best back it led to a huge mistake that contributed to a terrible season. We found out in 2015 that RB’s aren’t easily replaced. How soon some of you forget. You’re another fan that I’m glad isn’t running the team. Some of you think you can move on from anyone and just draft their replacements and problem solved.

 

[darthseinfeld]

This morning, on the way to work, I did what I always did and started thinking about what we could do this offseason in terms of FA/trades to fix some of our issues. I should know better than to waste my time on this exercise. Jerry and his bozo son will nickle and dime their way through FA, largely ignore DT yet again and maybe kind of half *** it at WR again convincing themselves that Tolbert will be fine and they don't need much beyond maybe another James Washington type signing. They will then try to impress us with talk of how the draft will fill all their holes.

But I am bored so here we go.

- Elliott has to go. Even if he takes a pay cut, his cap hit next year will be in the $8ish million range. That's absurd for what we get from him. Yeah, I know, Stephen went on that stupid diatribe about how important he is and how he's apparently more vital than Pollard. Don't be dumb Stephen. Use your freaking eyes. And this draft is long on talent at TB in those middle rounds. Be smart Stephen, geezus.

- Unfortunately, Schultz has to go. He's good. But this league pays good players oodles of money in FA. He's going to get upper level TE money and frankly, he's not a difference maker at TE like a Kelce or Kittle or Goedert.

- Pollard is an interesting case. I'd like him back. He and his agent are going to want to get paid. But he's coming off an injury. I don't necessarily like the idea of it, but tagging him is probably what will happen.

- LVE should be back IMO. For all the guff I've given him, when he was on the field the run D was better than when he was not. With LVE, it kind of stabilizes things a bit and you don't have to go chasing a LB early in the draft if one isn't there.

- I am a dead horse beater on DT. What they keep doing at DT is mindnumbing. It likely won't change but shoot, this is a year to try to shore it up. Payne is the prize but there are other options that could be cheaper. Tomlinson is a name I'd love to add. Down a peg is a guy like Fletcher Cox who could be a casualty in Philly. Sheldon Rankins is out there too.

- They need a vet CB. I think Bland should stay inside where he played well this year for a rookie. Brown is a FA and frankly I am not sure I want to go with him coming off that injury. There will be options out there. Shoot, the Eagles picked up Bradberry late in FA and all he did was play at an All Pro level.

- Unfortunately, WR is kind of a wasteland in FA unless there are some surprise cuts. DJ Chark might be interesting. Sterling Shepard wouldn't be terrible but I have no idea what he would cost. But that's about it. JuJu? Sure but I can't see KC letting him walk. They really need Tolbert to step up. I still think Gallup will be fine more than a year removed from his injury. If you could come out of the draft with a guy like Hyatt from Tennessee or Flowers from BC, WR should be improved.

- McGovern is an interesting case too. He wasn't great. He wasn't bad. If he's cheap, I'd bring him back. Steele is out for a part of the season so you could roll with the two Smiths at OT and McGovern at LG until Steele is back and then you could flip Tyler back inside until Tyron inevitably gets hurt again. That being said, I could go OL in the first round of the draft too. The Jones kid from UGA is a bit OT who could give you that flexibility to move Tyler inside. And Torrence from UF is a pure guard that could be a mauler at LG. The OL has to be stabilized next year.

Im not as concerned about Pollards leg than most. With the the fact this was the first year since HS he was anything close to a bell cow, I think you have a couple years of very good production from him. He could be a similar case to Alex Jones where they got some very good production in the first couple years of a new contract. Tagging him is where they will probably go, but Id prefer he got a deal with two years of guarentees. Get production out of him for 23 and 24 then move on

Im actually optimistic they put real resources in the DT. I know, I know..... but they have tried with day 2 picks. Rounds where you should find starters, and failed outside of Odighizuwa. Now they are critically thin at the position, especially when you consider they tried to trade Gallimore at the deadline.

I think a vet trade like Hopkins could be our best bet at WR. Supposedly Arizona is willing to eat some money. Being 31 should drive his value down a little, but he still plays at an elite level. I think he is a good 2 year option

I think we have an advantage Philadelphia has at CB in that we have a very potent pass rush. We paced them in sack totals until we fell off the last quarter of the season. Could be because we had to roll out Joseph and Wright. A bit of a symbiotic relationship there.

Like Pollard im not as concerned with Steele's injury. From what I had seen it was a clean tear and he is expected back by TC. But you know how that goes

 

[InPhiltraitor]

Really good post man.
You and I are definitely in sync with a few small exceptions.

We need to move on from Zeke. No restructure BS. He is no longer worth his pay, simple as that. Get a young, strong back in the draft to pair with Pollard. (The Chiefs got Pacheco in the 7th last year). Bring Pollard back, he is one of the only playmakers on this offense. Use him better in the pass game. (See Christian McCaffrey).

I would also go OL in Round 1, and the 2 you mentioned would be amazing and shore us our OL for years to come. Both are road graders, and the thought of pairing them with Tyler on the left side would have any RB salivating.
I'd go WR in Round 2. I think Hyatt will be gone, but there are several speed guys in this draft who could be there (Mims, Oklahoma)
Round 3 I'd go a RB (like Tank Bigsby ) or a run stopping LB (like Jack Campbell).
I also like LaPorta (TE, Iowa) in the 4th, and agree with your assessment of Schultz. I like him a lot, but better to use our dollars elsewhere.

I ran a mock where I moved back a few spots in Round 1 and picked up an extra 3rd.
I got Torrence in 1, Mims in 2, Campbell and Bigsby in 3 and Laporta in 4, Ekiyor (G, Alabama) and Daniels (CB, TCU) in 5. (Traded my 3rd 5th to move up in the 4th for LaPorta.)

I'd like LVE back at the right price, but Campbell would give us insurance. I like LVE, but would still like a downhill gap stuffer (like Campbell). I'd also move on from Tyron. Hard for me as he is one of my favorite all time Cowboys, but we clear 25 mil in space by cutting he and Zeke June 1, and I want that money to keep young players like Steele, Pollard and Wilson. I'd sign Peters as my swing and fill in until Steele returns. Money decision.

On D, I'd clear some space with restructures and go after a realistic DT (Tomlinson, Rankins). I'd also keep Hankins and Watkins.
Then I'd look for a cut candidate CB later (Byron Jones is getting cut, and could be available), or someone like him. Put him outside and Bland in the slot. Could even cut Lewis and invest that 5 mil somewhere else. I'd keep Wilson, dude is a player, and Kearse is often used as a LB so having 3 good safeties is a strength for us (after decades of weakness at the position).

You complimented Sydla’s post and then turned around and put together a very solid plan yourself.

I agree with the OL on the first pick. It’s not sexy but our line feels as if it’s in transition and the timing is spot on to add a long term addition. The OL used to be the foundation of our success. I know it’s not the 90’s but some personnel philosophies stand the test of time.

I like your takes on moving on from Zeke and Shultz, and for trying to keep Wilson and Kearse on that back end. Some say the $$ situation may not be in our favor to keep Wilson, but I appreciate the physicality he brings to the secondary while Diggs is perfecting the flying turtle shell tackle.

Tyron and Peters present a dilemma to me given the lack of adequate depth at the position. I’ll be very interested to see how the Cowboys invest capital at the tackle position this year.

BTW, nice call on Laporta.

 

[DuncanIso]

This morning, on the way to work, I did what I always did and started thinking about what we could do this offseason in terms of FA/trades to fix some of our issues. I should know better than to waste my time on this exercise. Jerry and his bozo son will nickle and dime their way through FA, largely ignore DT yet again and maybe kind of half *** it at WR again convincing themselves that Tolbert will be fine and they don't need much beyond maybe another James Washington type signing. They will then try to impress us with talk of how the draft will fill all their holes.

But I am bored so here we go.

- Elliott has to go. Even if he takes a pay cut, his cap hit next year will be in the $8ish million range. That's absurd for what we get from him. Yeah, I know, Stephen went on that stupid diatribe about how important he is and how he's apparently more vital than Pollard. Don't be dumb Stephen. Use your freaking eyes. And this draft is long on talent at TB in those middle rounds. Be smart Stephen, geezus.

- Unfortunately, Schultz has to go. He's good. But this league pays good players oodles of money in FA. He's going to get upper level TE money and frankly, he's not a difference maker at TE like a Kelce or Kittle or Goedert.

- Pollard is an interesting case. I'd like him back. He and his agent are going to want to get paid. But he's coming off an injury. I don't necessarily like the idea of it, but tagging him is probably what will happen.

- LVE should be back IMO. For all the guff I've given him, when he was on the field the run D was better than when he was not. With LVE, it kind of stabilizes things a bit and you don't have to go chasing a LB early in the draft if one isn't there.

- I am a dead horse beater on DT. What they keep doing at DT is mindnumbing. It likely won't change but shoot, this is a year to try to shore it up. Payne is the prize but there are other options that could be cheaper. Tomlinson is a name I'd love to add. Down a peg is a guy like Fletcher Cox who could be a casualty in Philly. Sheldon Rankins is out there too.

- They need a vet CB. I think Bland should stay inside where he played well this year for a rookie. Brown is a FA and frankly I am not sure I want to go with him coming off that injury. There will be options out there. Shoot, the Eagles picked up Bradberry late in FA and all he did was play at an All Pro level.

- Unfortunately, WR is kind of a wasteland in FA unless there are some surprise cuts. DJ Chark might be interesting. Sterling Shepard wouldn't be terrible but I have no idea what he would cost. But that's about it. JuJu? Sure but I can't see KC letting him walk. They really need Tolbert to step up. I still think Gallup will be fine more than a year removed from his injury. If you could come out of the draft with a guy like Hyatt from Tennessee or Flowers from BC, WR should be improved.

- McGovern is an interesting case too. He wasn't great. He wasn't bad. If he's cheap, I'd bring him back. Steele is out for a part of the season so you could roll with the two Smiths at OT and McGovern at LG until Steele is back and then you could flip Tyler back inside until Tyron inevitably gets hurt again. That being said, I could go OL in the first round of the draft too. The Jones kid from UGA is a bit OT who could give you that flexibility to move Tyler inside. And Torrence from UF is a pure guard that could be a mauler at LG. The OL has to be stabilized next year.

Zeke stays.

Just going by what Stephen said.

 

[DuncanIso]

You complimented Sydla’s post and then turned around and put together a very solid plan yourself.

I agree with the OL on the first pick. It’s not sexy but our line feels as if it’s in transition and the timing is spot on to add a long term addition. The OL used to be the foundation of our success. I know it’s not the 90’s but some personnel philosophies stand the test of time.

I like your takes on moving on from Zeke and Shultz, and for trying to keep Wilson and Kearse on that back end. Some say the $$ situation may not be in our favor to keep Wilson, but I appreciate the physicality he brings to the secondary while Diggs is perfecting the flying turtle shell tackle.

Tyron and Peters present a dilemma to me given the lack of adequate depth at the position. I’ll be very interested to see how the Cowboys invest capital at the tackle position this year.

BTW, nice call on Laporta.

Why let our TE1 leave???

 

[Cowboys5217]

I am 100% positive that Booger and Chuckles already have some kind of handshake deal with OBJ....then they will both lean back, fold their arms in front of them, and give us their best cocky Barney Fife sneer.....mission complete will be the thought.

 

[InPhiltraitor]

Why let our TE1 leave???

“Money, Money, Money, Money,…Money”

If they opt to tag him a second time, the cost would be in the neighborhood of what, $12-13 million? It’s not a well-kept secret at this point that Shultz in looking to get paid top market value for a long-term contract. I would guess in the $14-15 million range placing him near the top of the TE pay scale for 2023.

This team is already cap strapped and Dalton Schultz, like the player, is not a make or break for team success. I think he was aided by a little bit of tunnel vision from our QB and little bit of limited imagination from the recently jettisoned OC.

Perhaps if Ferguson and Hendershot appeared completely inept, the Cowboys would have a dilemma. Let’s face it, Schultz was not a good blocker and Ferguson appears to have some wiggle that the rigid Schultz lacks.

This is just my personal response to a very fair question.. You asked, so I’m respectfully replying.

 

[Cowfan75]

Mike is going to want some toys for his offense.

He'll get nothing and like it!

 

[Cowboys1966]

3 best moves Dallas can make:

1. Extend Dak. He’s your longterm QB, you’re not moving off from him anytime soon. Once you accept this reality, extending him now makes much more sense than restructuring him and then just extending next offseason. Huge cap windfall, would free up 23m$ in cap space.

2. Extend Trayvon Diggs. Likely price: 5 years 110m$, 8m$ 2023 cap hit

3. Sign Yannick Ngakoue. Always build to your strengths: Give Micah breathing room to return to the player he used to be. Quinn wasn’t just playing Micah too much at DE to try and get him sacks, he did it because he had to based on your personnel. DLaw just isn’t the pass rush force he used to be. Dorance Armstrong benefited from Micah playing on the line, but completely fell off when Micah moved back to OLB; in the last 11 games he had 3.5 total sacks. Because he bottomed out like that, he started the season with 5 sacks in 6 games and still couldn’t hit double digit. He’s a good asset to have, but not consistently reliable… particularly if Micah is played in his best role.

Here’s one of the craziest statlines I bet no one here is aware of: Yannick has been in the nfl for 7 years. He’s already played on 4 different teams, for 5 different defensive schemes. He has never had a season with less than 8 sacks! He’s unbelievably underrated. At 27 years old he already has 65 career sacks, and you probably won’t need to pay him anything close to top market price for DE. He likely goes for Haason Reddick money. Yannick also has 21 forced fumbles already through his career. That’s 3 strip sacks a season, on average. He’s a monster and would fix all kinds of problems Dallas had last year.

Lol an Eagles fan wants us to extend Dak … hmm.
That actually does have merit. Use void years as well. Actually use void years everywhere. Let’s give ourselves a legitimate, as in Super Bowl favourite, 4 year window. Then implode for a year or two.

I’m going to be very curious as to how Roseman navigates the bonanza of void contracts he has over the next few years. I hope Jerry is seriously watching.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Yup - Elliott has to go.
Yup - Unfortunately, Schultz has to go.
Yup - Pollard is an interesting case.. but tagging him is probably what will happen.
Maybe - LVE should be back IMO...
Yup - I am a dead horse beater on DT. What they keep doing at DT is mindnumbing.
- They need a vet CB.
Nope - I still think Gallup will be fine more than a year removed from his injury.
Nope - McGovern is an interesting case too. He wasn't great. He wasn't bad. If he's cheap, I'd bring him back.

LVE is a weird case to me. All I can think is that the league was scared off by injury concerns. He was playing well at the end of 2021. The contract we got was ridiculously low, and that's not in the rear view mirror, that's what I said at the time.
Will the league undervalue LVE again? Maybe. I'd be happy to get him at 5.

Gallup would be fine but unthrilling at 6mil, not fine as a guy you're paying 13mil to guaranteed. Bad contract. Veteran WRs on the back end of their careers can often be had for a stick of gum. Like Hilton. And really, I'd probably rather have Hilton straight up.

McGovern seemed significantly less than average to me. I wouldn't want to sign him for anything but a bridge backup, and paid accordingly. Will no other team be willing to pay more? Probably not.

 

[Captain-Crash]

you'll be dazzled and you will be crawling back to jerry for more next year.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

I’m going to be very curious as to how Roseman navigates the bonanza of void contracts he has over the next few years. I hope Jerry is seriously watching.

I think people are going to be surprised; we do have money to work with. We have plenty of free agents, but the executive of the year is not one of them. He’ll be able to retool

 

[foofighters]

This morning, on the way to work, I did what I always did and started thinking about what we could do this offseason in terms of FA/trades to fix some of our issues. I should know better than to waste my time on this exercise. Jerry and his bozo son will nickle and dime their way through FA, largely ignore DT yet again and maybe kind of half *** it at WR again convincing themselves that Tolbert will be fine and they don't need much beyond maybe another James Washington type signing. They will then try to impress us with talk of how the draft will fill all their holes.

But I am bored so here we go.

- Elliott has to go. Even if he takes a pay cut, his cap hit next year will be in the $8ish million range. That's absurd for what we get from him. Yeah, I know, Stephen went on that stupid diatribe about how important he is and how he's apparently more vital than Pollard. Don't be dumb Stephen. Use your freaking eyes. And this draft is long on talent at TB in those middle rounds. Be smart Stephen, geezus.

- Unfortunately, Schultz has to go. He's good. But this league pays good players oodles of money in FA. He's going to get upper level TE money and frankly, he's not a difference maker at TE like a Kelce or Kittle or Goedert.

- Pollard is an interesting case. I'd like him back. He and his agent are going to want to get paid. But he's coming off an injury. I don't necessarily like the idea of it, but tagging him is probably what will happen.

- LVE should be back IMO. For all the guff I've given him, when he was on the field the run D was better than when he was not. With LVE, it kind of stabilizes things a bit and you don't have to go chasing a LB early in the draft if one isn't there.

- I am a dead horse beater on DT. What they keep doing at DT is mindnumbing. It likely won't change but shoot, this is a year to try to shore it up. Payne is the prize but there are other options that could be cheaper. Tomlinson is a name I'd love to add. Down a peg is a guy like Fletcher Cox who could be a casualty in Philly. Sheldon Rankins is out there too.

- They need a vet CB. I think Bland should stay inside where he played well this year for a rookie. Brown is a FA and frankly I am not sure I want to go with him coming off that injury. There will be options out there. Shoot, the Eagles picked up Bradberry late in FA and all he did was play at an All Pro level.

- Unfortunately, WR is kind of a wasteland in FA unless there are some surprise cuts. DJ Chark might be interesting. Sterling Shepard wouldn't be terrible but I have no idea what he would cost. But that's about it. JuJu? Sure but I can't see KC letting him walk. They really need Tolbert to step up. I still think Gallup will be fine more than a year removed from his injury. If you could come out of the draft with a guy like Hyatt from Tennessee or Flowers from BC, WR should be improved.

- McGovern is an interesting case too. He wasn't great. He wasn't bad. If he's cheap, I'd bring him back. Steele is out for a part of the season so you could roll with the two Smiths at OT and McGovern at LG until Steele is back and then you could flip Tyler back inside until Tyron inevitably gets hurt again. That being said, I could go OL in the first round of the draft too. The Jones kid from UGA is a bit OT who could give you that flexibility to move Tyler inside. And Torrence from UF is a pure guard that could be a mauler at LG. The OL has to be stabilized next year.

The only way you're going to be dazzled is if @Risen Star throws a bunch of glitter all over himself and he dances around on Tik Tok...otherwise the Cowboys will surely be nothing short of boring while Jerry touts his moves as the greatest ever (as usual).

 

[raven55]

i like a lot of the posts like moving on from zeke and everything the problem is that dumb and dumber undermine the coach's on radio so they let everybody know who runs the team. most owners don't do this but these dumb morons do. that's a problem for a coach he can't over come. And the players know this so they don't fear the coach. I don't know how you over come something like that so unfortunately all you get for coach's is yes men. JIMMY JOHNSON left because this, and after 27 years of not having a true coach see what this does but jerry's big ego get's him in trouble like a girl he got pregnant all these things come back to haunt him. so to sum it up as far as the draft everything is okay but as for as free agents don't expect anything from him because it just isn't gonna happen. He's 'lost in JJ's team that he put together that's what got him the gold jacket not him running the team