Canty = 1st round pick?

[Yakuza Rich]

Poison pills apply?

Problem is for other teams is that Canty really isn't a 4-3 DT. He fits best as a 3-4 DE given his height and frame. So they'll be giving up a lot for a guy who has never played in the 4-3 and who doesn't look like a very good fit in the 4-3.

Perhaps the Pats could go after him, but I do think Canty loves playing in Wade's scheme and the Pats do use a lot (not all) of 2 gap technique.





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[Randy White]

I'll give you an example. New England, San Franciso, Indianapolis, and Cleveland cannot sign Chris Canty. The reason, not one of them has their own draft pick anymore. New England has the seventh pick but it belongs to SF, so no go. San Fran has the Colts pick, so no go. Indianapolis and Cleveland don't have a first so no go.

Are you sure about that ?

I know you're right that a team must have a #1 pick in order to sign a tendered restricted free agent, and if a team has two, or more, of them, I think you're right too that the original pick is the one that goes ( although I thought I heard a few years back that the highest pick is the one that goes, but I digress ) but I think the rules says that as long as you have the draft pick necessary for the compensation, you are allowed to sign them.

I do know that Mortensen said a couple of years ago that a team, for example, cannot sign a RFA to an offer sheet and then trade down from it's original spot during the process, even if it stays in the first round, thus making the pick less valuable.

 

[the kid 05]

but the question is ... is Canty a No. 1 overall pick? I know he wasn't drafted in the first round, but would he have gone No. 1 overall? That is what we would be asking the Fins to trade if they did, indeed, sign Canty. He's a nice player that fits into what Dallas' D does (nice illiteration, right?), but wouldn't necessarily translate over.

not number 1 overall but pre bar fight/eye injury/torn acl he was highly regarded as a low/mid first round draft grade

 

[speedkilz88]

If it was allowed like that, a team in theory could trade down all the way to last pick in that round and then sign the guy.

 

[Clarkson]

remember what the vikings did so Seattle couldnt match the offer for hutchinson.

People, get educated.

You're not allowed to do that anymore. No more poison pills. Again, the NFL did away with poison pills.


No more poison pills.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

I think Dallas will re-sign it's own before looking to free agency, just my thought....

 

[CrazyCowboy]

I like Canty but I really do believe he is part of the plan to pk up an extra 1st rd pk

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I didn't know that they did away with the posion pill thing. That's good news for teams.

 

[BigDFan5]

People, get educated.

You're not allowed to do that anymore. No more poison pills. Again, the NFL did away with poison pills.


No more poison pills.

ummm no they didnt, you can still use poison pills, maybe you should get educated eh?

 

[Nightman]

People, get educated.

You're not allowed to do that anymore. No more poison pills. Again, the NFL did away with poison pills.


No more poison pills.

No one used the poison pill in 2007 and the union got very suspicious. If it doesn't get used this year, I'd wager the union cries collusion. It can only be removed through the CBA.

 

[superpunk]

Canty would never sign a 2 million dollar deal.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I'll give you an example. New England, San Franciso, Indianapolis, and Cleveland cannot sign Chris Canty. The reason, not one of them has their own draft pick anymore. New England has the seventh pick but it belongs to SF, so no go. San Fran has the Colts pick, so no go. Indianapolis and Cleveland don't have a first so no go.

FWIW, you can sign a RFA and give up the slotted pick, or higher one. So NE could trade all the way down to 30 (their pick was 31rst) and still sign Canty. Where as the Dolphins could only give up the first pick.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

People, get educated.

You're not allowed to do that anymore. No more poison pills. Again, the NFL did away with poison pills.


No more poison pills.

that's what I thought, but people seem to act other wise so I'm really not sure. The fact that no one did anything last year seems to say the NFL said enough of this.

 

[AdamJT13]

FWIW, you can sign a RFA and give up the slotted pick, or higher one. So NE could trade all the way down to 30 (their pick was 31rst) and still sign Canty. Where as the Dolphins could only give up the first pick.

This is correct. You must use your own draft pick or one that is higher. For example, if some team doesn't have a sixth-round pick but wants to sign Joe Berger, it first must get a sixth-round pick equal to their original sixth-round pick or better.

The only way around that is to do a sign-and-trade.

 

[BrassCowboy]

You understand he needs to sign an offer sheet right?

And that any offer sheet he signs the cowboys have the option to match.

If he signs an offer sheet for a reasonable contract the Cowboys will match it.

if the cowboys decide they want to match it... they may want the first round pick from team that gave him the offer instead.

and if Canty refuses to sign any offer, he sits...