Cap ramifications of tagging and trading Dak?

None far as I know, the other team would be on the hook for the new deal he would sign. That's how the NBA is able to navigate more, sometimes signing and trading but that doesn't happen in the NFL. Now, would a team give us the 1st and a new contract? Most would just draft a QB.
 
This is not going to happen but isn’t it 2 1st round picks.
 
The only relevant thing, I believe, is that we would need cap space to sign him to the price of the franchise tag.

But once traded all the money due would transfer to new team, and all that cap space would immediately become available again.

No penalties, no dead cap, etc.
 
Killerinstinct said:
Does anyone know what they would be?
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Nothing really but the relevant problem is it would have to be to a team Dak is okay with getting traded to. Dak can effectively veto whoever the trade partner is by simply not signing the tag (because he cant be traded) and the Cowboys would still be on the hook for the cost of his salary when it pertains to how they can structure deals. He waits until after the draft and suddenly there is little of value you can trade for and even if you do then you now have a bunch of cap space and no one to spend it on because all the top and mid tier FAs already signed.
 
Killerinstinct said:
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Dallas is not going to trade Dak.

Nobody wants him so bad nor values him like Jones will pay.

We are bidding against ourselves constantly. The way the NFL handles the pandemic is going to distaste everything.

Those teams that figure it out will compete and if not..they won't.

So far we look good capwise.
 
Killerinstinct said:
Does anyone know what they would be?
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First off just tagging Prescott does not allow them to trade him. Prescott would have to sign the tag before he could be traded. If this dream did happen there would be nothing applied to the Cowboys cap. Next even though a tagged player has been traded once or twice before, that does not make it a generally commonly used action. Finally other than some fans here who are not big Prescott fans, there has been nothing, zero, zip, nada anything that either Jones has said or done that would give ANYONE any REAL belief that they would even for a second consider trading Prescott.
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Bigdog said:
This is not going to happen but isn’t it 2 1st round picks.
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You're thinking of the non-exclusive franchise tag that if another team makes an offer that the original team didn't match, the team that made the offer has to give up 2 first round picks. Trading a player there is no manditory picks other than what the two teams agree on.
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Aviano90 said:
The full salary should move over to the new team. If it is before July 15th the player should still be able to negotiate a long term deal with their new team.
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If a tagged player who signed the tag offer is traded, whether before or after July 15th, all money for that player goes on the team that traded for the player. If there was a long term contract that was signed and then the player is traded, only the money actually paid to the player by the original team would go against their cap like a signing bonus. And yes if a tagged player is traded before July 15th, the new team can still try to negotiate a new long term contract.
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Adreme said:
Nothing really but the relevant problem is it would have to be to a team Dak is okay with getting traded to. Dak can effectively veto whoever the trade partner is by simply not signing the tag (because he cant be traded) and the Cowboys would still be on the hook for the cost of his salary when it pertains to how they can structure deals. He waits until after the draft and suddenly there is little of value you can trade for and even if you do then you now have a bunch of cap space and no one to spend it on because all the top and mid tier FAs already signed.
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You don't know what you're trying to talk about. The NFL has a rule that no player that was offered the exclusive franchise tag CAN BE traded until the offer is signed. Therefore Prescott DOES NOT have ANY veto power on a possible trade because he can't be traded until AFTER he signs the tag.
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gjkoeppen said:
You don't know what you're trying to talk about. The NFL has a rule that no player that was offered the exclusive franchise tag CAN BE traded until the offer is signed. Therefore Prescott DOES NOT have ANY veto power on a possible trade because he can't be traded until AFTER he signs the tag.
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He is saying declining to sign the tag is essentially a veto for any potential trade. Dak just wouldn't sign the tag unless he wanted to go to that team.
 
Killerinstinct said:
Does anyone know what they would be?
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Post #9 answers your question in the simplest form.

Adreme said:
Nothing really but the relevant problem is it would have to be to a team Dak is okay with getting traded to. Dak can effectively veto whoever the trade partner is by simply not signing the tag (because he cant be traded) and the Cowboys would still be on the hook for the cost of his salary when it pertains to how they can structure deals. He waits until after the draft and suddenly there is little of value you can trade for and even if you do then you now have a bunch of cap space and no one to spend it on because all the top and mid tier FAs already signed.
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If he doesn't sign the tag, what cost would the Cowboys be on the hook for? He wouldn't be owed a dime.
 
gjkoeppen said:
You don't know what you're trying to talk about. The NFL has a rule that no player that was offered the exclusive franchise tag CAN BE traded until the offer is signed. Therefore Prescott DOES NOT have ANY veto power on a possible trade because he can't be traded until AFTER he signs the tag.
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You dont understand what that truly means. He can wait to sign a tag until a team he wants to go to makes an offer and outright say "I will not sign the tag until Training Camp unless either the Cowboys make me an offer or teams x, y, and z make an offer".
 
Flamma said:
Post #9 answers your question in the simplest form.



If he doesn't sign the tag, what cost would the Cowboys be on the hook for? He wouldn't be owed a dime.
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The moment you put the tag in regardless of when he signs it, and unless you rescind the tag, the team has to set aside the cap money for the player regardless of whether the tag is signed or not.

What this means from a cap perspective, if Dak does not sign the tag immediately, is that the Cowboys cannot trade Dak because he is not on their roster, technically, and they would be unable to trade him until he does sign the tag. So if he waits until after FA and after the draft to sign it, then what do you really gain by trading him? You now have a bunch of cap space not worth using on anyone and some much less valuable picks. That is what it means if Dak decides to wait until June to sign the tag, he loses no money, but can tank his trade value.
 
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