Carolina's last 5 games...

[AmericasTeam31]

I know you said that we would probably win, but you also said you weren't impressed by our offense or defense. Call me crazy, but I tend to take comments like that as a slight against my team. We're 10 and 4 in a very competitive division. To me, that's pretty impressive.

Go back and read the posts on this board about our remaining schedule from about 4 weeks ago. Everyone on here said that the Carolina was gonna be the toughest.

I'm sure that there are things about the Cowboys that aren't all that impressive to you as a Panthers fan too. From the outside looking in, IMO, if you stop the run vs. Carolina you will win. Just look at the #'s. When the running game is not doing it's job they tend to lose.

 

[monstercat]

Go back and read the posts on this board about our remaining schedule from about 4 weeks ago. Everyone on here said that the Carolina was gonna be the toughest.

I'm sure that there are things about the Cowboys that aren't all that impressive to you as a Panthers fan too. From the outside looking in, IMO, if you stop the run vs. Carolina you will win. Just look at the #'s. When the running game is not doing it's job they tend to lose.

Actually, we're just now finding our running game...we have been winning all year without it.

 

[AmericasTeam31]

Miami-L-61 rushing yds on 26 carries 2.3ypc
Chicago-L-55 rushing yds on 16 carries 3.4ypc
Tampa Bay-L-82 rushing yds on 20 carries 4.1ypc

Compare that to your wins:
Atlanta-W-142 rushing yds on 34 carries 4.2ypc
Buffalo-W-113 rushing yds on 33 carries 3.4ypc
New Orleans-W-161 rushing yds on 43 carries 3.7ypc

Seems like we are carbon copies of each other, lots of attempts and low ypc. But when we run the ball and control the clock we have a much better chance to win in the end, especially if we get one or two big plays from the passing game....

 

[mr.jameswoods]

We have a fair chance of beating them but Carolina is a better team than us at the moment. We shouldn't get blown out by them. Losing to them by 7 points or less is one thing but if they kill us, there is no excuse for that.

However, I'm sure there will be several people on this forum that will provide us with plenty of excuses if that does happen. Be prepared!

 

[alancdc]

MONSTERCAT. Since I am here in Charlotte and get a dose of Panther fans all year read below and debate any point of it with me please. Sent this to the local talk radio show today for debate... FACTS. First Dallas has played a much tougher schedule. That is not up for debate. Panther opponents are 84-112, and that gives them a break that Minnesota somehow turned their season around, but at the time they played they were 2-5 and in disaster mode. Cowboy opponents are 102-94. Panthers are 2 games better than us in the standings keep in mind. Let's run down, like the morning show did last week, a list of the future Hall of Fame QB's that the Panthers have been able to feast on this year: Fiedler, Brooks, Whoever was the QB at AZ, McKown/Whatever, Orton who is so bad the coach benches him when they are winning a game and their record is 10-4, Harington, Cullpepper/Johnson 1st game, Simms FIRST game, Bollinger, Losman, Bauman.....IS THIS THE ARENA LEAGUE OR WHAT?

On the other hand, McNabb before he was injured, Breese, Eli Manning(2), Brunnell(2), Trent Green, Plumber, Hasslebeck,

Now, the Panthers are 10-4, and the Boys are 8-6. Do you not think that if we could replace say Denver and KC with The Jets and Bills that we could be sitting at 10-4 as well? I know, I know, you play who you play, but the point is that the Panthers for all their 10-4 record brings them... HOW GOOD ARE THEY? Can they run the ball, do they EVER throw to the tight end, can all of Jake's jump balls continue to be caught by Steve Smith, their very nature suggests to me that they are going to keep teams in games simply by being conservative. Are the Panthers really that much better than the Cowboys? We tend to remember the last game played, and it was an obvious embarrassment by us, but had we played the week before the rolls were reversed if you remember. Panthers got beat down by the Bucks at home, and Dallas beat KC. Did beating the Saints, and by the way had the right call been made on the OBVIOUS lateral the Panthers would have been down 14-7 late in the 2nd quarter of that game, give Panther fans a shot in the arm by beating another in the long line of NFL Europe quarterbacks this year? The reality is most likely that the Panthers will win a close game this week, and get in the playoffs by playing a crap schedule full of crap quarterbacks while Dallas probably will be watching at home after playing exciting game after exciting game against real NFL talent.

So, I ask you based on the facts of their schedule, and the quarterback competition that they have played HOW GOOD ARE THE PANTHERS? Does anyone know?

 

[monstercat]

Miami-L-61 rushing yds on 26 carries 2.3ypc
Chicago-L-55 rushing yds on 16 carries 3.4ypc
Tampa Bay-L-82 rushing yds on 20 carries 4.1ypc

Compare that to your wins:
Atlanta-W-142 rushing yds on 34 carries 4.2ypc
Buffalo-W-113 rushing yds on 33 carries 3.4ypc
New Orleans-W-161 rushing yds on 43 carries 3.7ypc

Seems like we are carbon copies of each other, lots of attempts and low ypc. But when we run the ball and control the clock we have a much better chance to win in the end, especially if we get one or two big plays from the passing game....

Maybe you should take a look at the other 8 games we have played this year...I think you will find that we had a few more wins without getting a lot of rushing yardage including 3 blow-outs...Jets, Bucs, and Vikings.

 

[Billy Bullocks]

I sure hope we can beat this team. Someone tell Tucker and Pettiti that it aint Daniels and Wynn, but Rucker and Peppers

We didn't show up for Washington. This is the 1 game I will throw out this year. All the others showed us about our team. All this showed us is what the 2nd NY game did, we cna't seem to realize how important a game is.

 

[monstercat]

MONSTERCAT. Since I am here in Charlotte and get a dose of Panther fans all year read below and debate any point of it with me please. Sent this to the local talk radio show today for debate... FACTS. First Dallas has played a much tougher schedule. That is not up for debate. Panther opponents are 84-112, and that gives them a break that Minnesota somehow turned their season around, but at the time they played they were 2-5 and in disaster mode. Cowboy opponents are 102-94. Panthers are 2 games better than us in the standings keep in mind. Let's run down, like the morning show did last week, a list of the future Hall of Fame QB's that the Panthers have been able to feast on this year: Fiedler, Brooks, Whoever was the QB at AZ, McKown/Whatever, Orton who is so bad the coach benches him when they are winning a game and their record is 10-4, Harington, Cullpepper/Johnson 1st game, Simms FIRST game, Bollinger, Losman, Bauman.....IS THIS THE ARENA LEAGUE OR WHAT?

On the other hand, McNabb before he was injured, Breese, Eli Manning(2), Brunnell(2), Trent Green, Plumber, Hasslebeck,

Now, the Panthers are 10-4, and the Boys are 8-6. Do you not think that if we could replace say Denver and KC with The Jets and Bills that we could be sitting at 10-4 as well? I know, I know, you play who you play, but the point is that the Panthers for all their 10-4 record brings them... HOW GOOD ARE THEY? Can they run the ball, do they EVER throw to the tight end, can all of Jake's jump balls continue to be caught by Steve Smith, their very nature suggests to me that they are going to keep teams in games simply by being conservative. Are the Panthers really that much better than the Cowboys? We tend to remember the last game played, and it was an obvious embarrassment by us, but had we played the week before the rolls were reversed if you remember. Panthers got beat down by the Bucks at home, and Dallas beat KC. Did beating the Saints, and by the way had the right call been made on the OBVIOUS lateral the Panthers would have been down 14-7 late in the 2nd quarter of that game, give Panther fans a shot in the arm by beating another in the long line of NFL Europe quarterbacks this year? The reality is most likely that the Panthers will win a close game this week, and get in the playoffs by playing a crap schedule full of crap quarterbacks while Dallas probably will be watching at home after playing exciting game after exciting game against real NFL talent.

So, I ask you based on the facts of their schedule, and the quarterback competition that they have played HOW GOOD ARE THE PANTHERS? Does anyone know?

Dude, you have way too much time on your hands!

We also have to play Tampa and Atlanta twice EVERY year. If you think those are easy games then you are not very bright. Not to mention that we made Tom Brady look like one of those so called NFL Europe quarterbacks too.

We'll see what happens Saturday...Personally, I am very confident.

 

[alancdc]

Jets and Vikings? Independence High School could take them to the woodshed. What is that saying that you didn't have to run to beat those deadbeats. I know the Vikings are now 8-6, but when they played at Carolina they were 2-5, and were terrible.

 

[monstercat]

Jets and Vikings? Independence High School could take them to the woodshed. What is that saying that you didn't have to run to beat those deadbeats. I know the Vikings are now 8-6, but when they played at Carolina they were 2-5, and were terrible.

Well they looked a lot better than Dallas did Sunday. You know, I really don't know how I'm suppose to argue about schedules. The only thing I can say is that alot of those teams are bad because the Panthers and the other teams in the NFC South helped make them bad (Tampa, Atlanta, and the Panthers practically played the same schedule this season).

It's funny, alot of those teams that you are talking about being so bad had fans coming on our message boards talking the same smack about weak schedules. I suppose, if we played the Colts or the Seahawks, we could make the same argument about them.

 

[thssanders]

MONSTERCAT. Since I am here in Charlotte and get a dose of Panther fans all year read below and debate any point of it with me please. Sent this to the local talk radio show today for debate... FACTS. First Dallas has played a much tougher schedule. That is not up for debate. Panther opponents are 84-112, and that gives them a break that Minnesota somehow turned their season around, but at the time they played they were 2-5 and in disaster mode. Cowboy opponents are 102-94. Panthers are 2 games better than us in the standings keep in mind. Let's run down, like the morning show did last week, a list of the future Hall of Fame QB's that the Panthers have been able to feast on this year: Fiedler, Brooks, Whoever was the QB at AZ, McKown/Whatever, Orton who is so bad the coach benches him when they are winning a game and their record is 10-4, Harington, Cullpepper/Johnson 1st game, Simms FIRST game, Bollinger, Losman, Bauman.....IS THIS THE ARENA LEAGUE OR WHAT?

On the other hand, McNabb before he was injured, Breese, Eli Manning(2), Brunnell(2), Trent Green, Plumber, Hasslebeck,

Now, the Panthers are 10-4, and the Boys are 8-6. Do you not think that if we could replace say Denver and KC with The Jets and Bills that we could be sitting at 10-4 as well? I know, I know, you play who you play, but the point is that the Panthers for all their 10-4 record brings them... HOW GOOD ARE THEY? Can they run the ball, do they EVER throw to the tight end, can all of Jake's jump balls continue to be caught by Steve Smith, their very nature suggests to me that they are going to keep teams in games simply by being conservative. Are the Panthers really that much better than the Cowboys? We tend to remember the last game played, and it was an obvious embarrassment by us, but had we played the week before the rolls were reversed if you remember. Panthers got beat down by the Bucks at home, and Dallas beat KC. Did beating the Saints, and by the way had the right call been made on the OBVIOUS lateral the Panthers would have been down 14-7 late in the 2nd quarter of that game, give Panther fans a shot in the arm by beating another in the long line of NFL Europe quarterbacks this year? The reality is most likely that the Panthers will win a close game this week, and get in the playoffs by playing a crap schedule full of crap quarterbacks while Dallas probably will be watching at home after playing exciting game after exciting game against real NFL talent.

So, I ask you based on the facts of their schedule, and the quarterback competition that they have played HOW GOOD ARE THE PANTHERS? Does anyone know?

Wow... it looks like they have gotten lucky a lot this year with the qb's they have had to face. However, it's not their fault they don't play top competition. They still won those games and they deserve credit. Although, this increases my optimism for saturday. Hopefully bledsoe and glenn will hook up several times deep!

 

[jja050575]

yeah well they were able to at least win 4 in a row this year. that scares me. we couldn't win 3 in a row this year with sub .500 teams if we wanted to.

Week 11 = Chicago 13, Carolina 3
Week 12 = Carolina 13, Buffalo 9
Week 13 = Carolina 24, Atlanta 6
Week 14 = Tampa 20, Carolina 10
Week 15 = Carolina 27, New Orleans 10

Even though we're not playing good right now, they're not playing so well either. We will (at least we should) come out with more intensity than them because a loss and we are done. They don't have as much to play for. Tucker needs to be benched. I dont care who plays LT but they can't be any worse than him. Stop Steve Smith and Foster and they don't have much of an offense. Newman should be on smith all day, not aaron glenn.

 

[Rockytop6]

Carolina has won 3 of their last 5 games. We have lost 3 of our last 4 games.

If we could only score 7 points against the Skin's D, what will we do against Carolina's D, especially Peppers?

 

[alancdc]

No any reasonable person wouldn't make that same argument about the Seahawks or Colts. I can't imagine the Jets, Saints, Lions, Cardinals, and all the bad quarterbacks listed above being bad because the mighty NFC South made them that way. Heck, Green Bay went TO Atlanta and won. How tough can it be? Also, why is it that it is a reasonable argument, at least nationally, to give San Diego a break because of their "tough" schedule, but no one else? Everybody else in the AFC West and NFC East played the same schedule. We can agree to disagree because you will never convince me that the Cowboys wouldn't also be at least 10-4 with the factors I have listed above. Hard to argue Brooks Bollinger and Todd Freakin Bauman.

 

[monstercat]

Wow... it looks like they have gotten lucky a lot this year with the qb's they have had to face. However, it's not their fault they don't play top competition. They still won those games and they deserve credit. Although, this increases my optimism for saturday. Hopefully bledsoe and glenn will hook up several times deep!

The problem is, he forgot to mention that we have also played against Vick and Tom Brady and made both of them look like high schoolers. Not to mention the fact that Jake Delhomme was an NFL Europe qb himself.

I beg to differ about the top comtetition part...the NFC South is no cake walk. Even the Saints are loaded with talent...they've just been through way too much this year. The Panthers, Bucs and Falcons all have a chance to win our division with only two games left.

PS: that guy posted almost the exact same thing on panthershuddle.com...it didn't work out so well for him there.

 

[jbsg02]

last hope of playoffs right here

 

[alancdc]

I know what I posted over there. I really don't care how it is working out over there. Facts are facts, and it is Panther fans like yourself that insist on things like the Saints are still a good football team that leads real fans to laugh at you when your stadium is half full when it rains, or when Tampa is killing you at home. If you can argue with anything that I posted about your crap schedule then you are not objective, and probably would like to dress up as Sir Purr on game day.

 

[Garland powerplay]

Noone expected the Cowboys to play Denver,KC, SD, & Philly w/ TO the way they did. Outside of Washington its been a great year. Its something to build on & improvement over a 6-10 last year. Lets go Cardiac Cowboys one more amazing finish to cap a very exciting year!

 

[alancdc]

Almost forgot, I never said that the Panthers didn't play anybody. You missed the point of the whole deal. Of course the Patriots at home was a good win, and the Falcons and Bucks are good teams. Although the Falcons are slippin, and the Bucks O-line might be as bad as ours. I am just pointing out the same thing that YOUR local radio statino did last week in that the other 10 games that you have played this year has been against sorry quarterbacks and sorry teams. As opposed to everybody in our division, who also had to play each other, along with the AFC West. Would you not agree with that MONSTERCAT? Merry Christmas man.

 

[monstercat]

Almost forgot, I never said that the Panthers didn't play anybody. You missed the point of the whole deal. Of course the Patriots at home was a good win, and the Falcons and Bucks are good teams. Although the Falcons are slippin, and the Bucks O-line might be as bad as ours. I am just pointing out the same thing that YOUR local radio statino did last week in that the other 10 games that you have played this year has been against sorry quarterbacks and sorry teams. As opposed to everybody in our division, who also had to play each other, along with the AFC West. Would you not agree with that MONSTERCAT? Merry Christmas man.

Maybe next year the Boys will play a couple of NFC South teams and we can take up this discussion again. As for now I'm really more worried about our last game with the Falcons than I am about Dallas. Merry Christmas to you too.

PS: What's a radio statino?