Carson Wentz is 0-3 with the Colts

[khiladi]

What’s also impressive is the mediocre QB outplayed Dak Prescott against third string Philly DB scrubs and a far superior Dallas roster in Philly in 2019 and eliminated us from the playoffs….

 

[USArmyVet]

He doesn’t have the leadership needed to win in the NFL.

So Wentz has a career 35-35-1 record while Dak has a career 43-28 record....so basically you are saying that Dak is a great leader and Wentz has no leadership ability...and they are separated by a difference of 8 career wins.

As for stats:

Wentz 1626 of 2598 62.6% Comp % 17,503 Yards 116 TD's 51 INT's

Prescott 1579 of 2378 66.4% Comp % 18.274 Yards 109 TD's 42 INT's


So an 8 game win difference and stats that are near comparable.....

 

[USArmyVet]

Aaahhh, I knew you were a Wentz guy.

He is a Wentz guy because he pointed out people are discussing a QB not even on Dallas? Yeah, reach much?

 

[khiladi]

So Wentz has a career 35-35-1 record while Dak has a career 43-28 record....so basically you are saying that Dak is a great leader and Wentz has no leadership ability...and they are separated by a difference of 8 career wins.

As for stats:

Wentz 1626 of 2598 62.6% Comp % 17,503 Yards 116 TD's 51 INT's

Prescott 1579 of 2378 66.4% Comp % 18.274 Yards 109 TD's 42 INT's


So an 8 game win difference and stats that are near comparable.....

Wentz in reality is far better than Dak Prescott in the red zone…. In reality, his first three years, pre-injury, his red zone efficiency was near the top of the league, unlike Checkdown Charlie Dak. And I was never in anyway a Wentz fan and had no idea why people valued him so highly.

Wentz in his first three years threw 60 TDs and 1 INT in the red zone…

His third down efficiency dropped after the ACL tear, but prior to that it was 4th ranked and this is with a HC that was extremely aggressive on third and longs and Philly, unlike Dallas never had an elite rushing attack.

https://www.phillyvoice.com/look-ca...and-third-efficiency-explosive-plays-fumbles/

 

[Swagger]

All the people criticising Wentz couldn't have actually watched the Colts play this season as they suddenly have one of the worst pass protection offensive lines in the league. They went from having one of the best offensive lines to pretty much the worst pass protection o lines so far this season. The dude can't catch a break! He wasn't amazing but in the circumstances he played well against the Seahawks and the Rams. It was all a bit gimmicky against the Titans as he couldn't move much due to his ankles (self induced as he tried to do too much versus the Rams). If people want to criticise the unnecessary hits he takes and injuries he endures as a result then I fully agree, but to claim he's a bum or can't play well it will be the same people who claimed Stafford wasn't a good QB and that Darnold was a bust.

 

[USArmyVet]

Wentz in reality is far better than Dak Prescott in the red zone…. In reality, his first three years, pre-injury, his red zone efficiency was near the top of the league, unlike Checkdown Charlie Dak. And I was never in anyway a Wentz fan and had no idea why people valued him so highly.

Wentz in his first three years threw 60 TDs and 1 INT in the red zone…

The funny thing is I could care less about Wentz but there are many in here that obsess with him simply as a means to try and use him as an example of why Dak 'is so much better'. The second you post unbiased stats they jump on you to say you are a Wentz guy and this and that. Well, when you point out Derek Carr has better stats than Dak since 2016 (when Dak entered the league)and is on pace so far this season to outperform Dak's 2020 start they call you a hater and a troll. Their emotional investment into Dak is frightening and borders on obsessive stalker.

Dak's 2020 stats (5 games):

151 of 222 68% Comp % 1,856 Yards 9 TD's 4 INT's 2 Wins 3 Losses 1 4th Qtr. Comeback 1 Game Winning Drive

Carr's 2021 stats (3 games):

88 of 136 64.7% Comp % 1,203 Yards 6 TD's 2 INT's 3 Wins 0 Losses 1 4th Qtr. Comeback 2 Game Winning Drives

 

[Swagger]

The funny thing is I could care less about Wentz but there are many in here that obsess with him simply as a means to try and use him as an example of why Dak 'is so much better'. The second you post unbiased stats they jump on you to say you are a Wentz guy and this and that. Well, when you point out Derek Carr has better stats than Dak since 2016 (when Dak entered the league)and is on pace so far this season to outperform Dak's 2020 start they call you a hater and a troll. Their emotional investment into Dak is frightening and borders on obsessive stalker.

Dak's 2020 stats (5 games):

151 of 222 68% Comp % 1,856 Yards 9 TD's 4 INT's 2 Wins 3 Losses 1 4th Qtr. Comeback 1 Game Winning Drive

Carr's 2021 stats (3 games):

88 of 136 64.7% Comp % 1,203 Yards 6 TD's 2 INT's 3 Wins 0 Losses 1 4th Qtr. Comeback 2 Game Winning Drives

I have stated on numerous occasions that Prescott is in the same tier of QB as Carr and Cousins. They are excellent comparisons and very similar especially when you look at the numbers. Carr and Cousins have had some pretty bad offensive lines to work with over the years but when Carr has had a decent o-line, he has done very well because he's a good QB like Prescott and like Cousins. But they aren't great quarterbacks, yet as you mention, those obsessed with hyping up Prescott get so offended. It is frightening and really sad truth be told.

 

[USArmyVet]

All the people criticising Wentz couldn't have actually watched the Colts play this season as they suddenly have one of the worst pass protection offensive lines in the league. They went from having one of the best offensive lines to pretty much the worst pass protection o lines so far this season. The dude can't catch a break! He wasn't amazing but in the circumstances he played well against the Seahawks and the Rams. It was all a bit gimmicky against the Titans as he couldn't move much due to his ankles (self induced as he tried to do too much versus the Rams). If people want to criticise the unnecessary hits he takes and injuries he endures as a result then I fully agree, but to claim he's a bum or can't play well it will be the same people who claimed Stafford wasn't a good QB and that Darnold was a bust.

2021 Stats:


Stafford (3 games) 66 of 94 70.2% Comp % 942 Yards 10.02 YPA 9 TD's 1 INT

Darnold (3 games) 73 of 107 68.2% Comp % 888 Yards 8.30 YPA 3 TD's 1 INT

Prescott (2 games) 65 of 85 76.5% Comp % 640 Yards 7.53 YPA 3 TD's 2 INT's

Goff (3 games) 86 of 123 69.9% Comp % 801 Yards 6.51 YPA 5 TD's 2INT's

Cousins (3 games) 88 of 119 73.9% Comp % 918 Yards 7.71 YPA 8 TD's 0 INT's

Bridgewater (3 games) 73 of 95 76.8% Comp % 827 Yards 8.71 YPA 4 TD's 0 INT's

People on here want to call 'elite' and a Top 5 QB yet here are some examples of QB's playing as good if not better than Dak who many said are not in Dak's company.....seems stats would tell a different story.

 

[G2]

Imagine defending Wentz this hard.

 

[USArmyVet]

Imagine defending Wentz this hard.

I do not see people really defending Wentz so much as questioning why people are obsessed with him in this group when he doesn't even play in Dallas' division or conference.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

2021 Stats:


Stafford (3 games) 66 of 94 70.2% Comp % 942 Yards 10.02 YPA 9 TD's 1 INT

Darnold (3 games) 73 of 107 68.2% Comp % 888 Yards 8.30 YPA 3 TD's 1 INT

Prescott (2 games) 65 of 85 76.5% Comp % 640 Yards 7.53 YPA 3 TD's 2 INT's

Goff (3 games) 86 of 123 69.9% Comp % 801 Yards 6.51 YPA 5 TD's 2INT's

Cousins (3 games) 88 of 119 73.9% Comp % 918 Yards 7.71 YPA 8 TD's 0 INT's

Bridgewater (3 games) 73 of 95 76.8% Comp % 827 Yards 8.71 YPA 4 TD's 0 INT's

People on here want to call 'elite' and a Top 5 QB yet here are some examples of QB's playing as good if not better than Dak who many said are not in Dak's company.....seems stats would tell a different story.

You forgot Carr. I got so much heat for saying Dak is on the same tier as Carr and Cousins. Which is the tier below ONLY Mahomes, Brady, Rodgers, and Wilson.

I didn't even say it as an insult to Dak, because I think Carr and Cousins are both very good, but ya know how it goes around these parts when you say anybody is equal to Dak.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Can't say game 3 is a must win, but realistically, with the players the Cowboys have out with injuries and suspension, it's a highly important game. A win gives us the division lead, with 2 more home games to follow. We've seen several road upsets, this is not the time for Dallas to be one of them...

 

[USArmyVet]

You forgot Carr. I got so much heat for saying Dak is on the same tier as Carr and Cousins. Which is the tier below ONLY Mahomes, Brady, Rodgers, and Wilson.

I didn't even say it as an insult to Dak, because I think Carr and Cousins are both very good, but ya know how it goes around these parts when you say anybody is equal to Dak.

I put Carr's stats in an earlier post but expect the same hater/troll replies from the Dak is elite defenders.

 

[Nav22]

Typical butthurt member who insults a veteran because he has neither the brain or spine to be a man.....but we all know you would never run your mouth like that in person to anyone.

Your bottom lip’s quivering, Tough Guy. I own you now.

Start another thread about how much your life sucks.

 

[USArmyVet]

Your bottom lip’s quivering, Tough Guy. I own you now.

Start another thread about how much your life sucks.

You are a legend in your own mind.

 

[Nav22]

2021 Stats:


Stafford (3 games) 66 of 94 70.2% Comp % 942 Yards 10.02 YPA 9 TD's 1 INT

Darnold (3 games) 73 of 107 68.2% Comp % 888 Yards 8.30 YPA 3 TD's 1 INT

Prescott (2 games) 65 of 85 76.5% Comp % 640 Yards 7.53 YPA 3 TD's 2 INT's

Goff (3 games) 86 of 123 69.9% Comp % 801 Yards 6.51 YPA 5 TD's 2INT's

Cousins (3 games) 88 of 119 73.9% Comp % 918 Yards 7.71 YPA 8 TD's 0 INT's

Bridgewater (3 games) 73 of 95 76.8% Comp % 827 Yards 8.71 YPA 4 TD's 0 INT's

People on here want to call 'elite' and a Top 5 QB yet here are some examples of QB's playing as good if not better than Dak who many said are not in Dak's company.....seems stats would tell a different story.

BAHAHAHAHA!!!

So NOW the stats matter???

Adorable. This tiny 2021 sample size matters GREATLY to you, but Dak’s CAREER NUMBERS are irrelevant???

Got it. That’s not insanely stupid at all.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

So the Colts have a dilemma.

They are track for a top ten pick and if Wentz plays like 75% of the snaps it conveys to Philly.

Not much of a dilemma. If they keep losing with Wentz, it would make sense to try other options regardless of a draft pick.

 

[Rockport]

So Wentz has a career 35-35-1 record while Dak has a career 43-28 record....so basically you are saying that Dak is a great leader and Wentz has no leadership ability...and they are separated by a difference of 8 career wins.

As for stats:

Wentz 1626 of 2598 62.6% Comp % 17,503 Yards 116 TD's 51 INT's

Prescott 1579 of 2378 66.4% Comp % 18.274 Yards 109 TD's 42 INT's


So an 8 game win difference and stats that are near comparable.....

Thanks for posting how better Dak is than Wentz. But I have a question, why do you defend an opposing QB vs a Cowboys QB? You're suppose to be a Cowboys fan right? I'm beginning to doubt that you really are. You're posts say otherwise.

 

[G2]

I do not see people really defending Wentz so much as questioning why people are obsessed with him in this group when he doesn't even play in Dallas' division or conference.

You haven't been following along. The defending is fairly clear. If you don't like the thread content you aren't forced to read or reply, so that would curb your problem. Pretty simple stuff.

 

[khiladi]

Wentz also didn’t practice in training camp anyways..

The funny thing is I could care less about Wentz but there are many in here that obsess with him simply as a means to try and use him as an example of why Dak 'is so much better'. The second you post unbiased stats they jump on you to say you are a Wentz guy and this and that. Well, when you point out Derek Carr has better stats than Dak since 2016 (when Dak entered the league)and is on pace so far this season to outperform Dak's 2020 start they call you a hater and a troll. Their emotional investment into Dak is frightening and borders on obsessive stalker.

Dak's 2020 stats (5 games):

151 of 222 68% Comp % 1,856 Yards 9 TD's 4 INT's 2 Wins 3 Losses 1 4th Qtr. Comeback 1 Game Winning Drive

Carr's 2021 stats (3 games):

88 of 136 64.7% Comp % 1,203 Yards 6 TD's 2 INT's 3 Wins 0 Losses 1 4th Qtr. Comeback 2 Game Winning Drives

Dak has had an elite RG and OL his whole career. The reality sample size you would want to look at is when Zeke got suspended or didn’t play (the latter completely meaningless games resting for the playoffs), when a guy like Smith was out, or when guys like Amari were out, despite his elite pass blocking and RG being available.

Was he carrying anybody and elevating the team or did he look like a mediocrity?