Carson Will Hold Parcells' Feet To The Fire

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CARSON WILL HOLD PARCELLS' FEET TO THE FIRE by Michael David Smith
Hall of Fame New York Giants linebacker Harry Carson has a great relationship with his old coach, Bill Parcells. So comfortable was Carson with Parcells when the two were together with the Giants, Carson started the Gatorade shower tradition by dousing Parcells during the 1986 Super Bowl season.
But Carson is now the executive director of the Fritz Pollard Alliance, and when he called Parcells lsat week, it wasn't to exchange holiday greetings.

"When I called him the day he was hired, I let him know that I was not calling as his friend but as executive director of the Fritz Pollard Alliance, and to keep diversity on his mind when looking at the various candidates," Carson said, per Harvey Fialkov of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel.

When Dolphins owner Wayne Huizenga hired Parcells to take over the team's front office, he didn't interview any minority candidates for the job. That showed disregard for the spirit of the NFL's Rooney Rule, which requires teams to interview minority candidates in filling coaching vacancies.
Although the same rule doesn't require minority candidates to be interviewed for front-office jobs like the one Parcells has in Miami, common sense would suggest that if diversity is important in hiring coaches, it's also important in hiring team executives.
According to Carson, Huizenga has a history of ignoring the Rooney Rule. Carson told Fialkov that when Huizenga hired Nick Saban as head coach in 2005, he planned to do so without interviewing any minorities. Carson says that after he called Huizenga to remind him of his obligation, Huizenga put together a cursory interview with Art Shell and then proceeded to hire Saban as planned.
If Parcells takes a similar approach toward hiring a general manager and head coach, Carson vows that he'll take on his old coach. But Carson says Parcells told him he's committed to honoring the Rooney Rule.

"Parcells assured me that he would play into the equation when he made any changes," Carson said.
 

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And right after BP interviews Shell, he'll hire Sparano. :laugh2:
 

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HardHittingRoy31;1873518 said:
CARSON WILL HOLD PARCELLS' FEET TO THE FIRE by Michael David Smith

Hall of Fame New York Giants linebacker Harry Carson has a great relationship with his old coach, Bill Parcells. So comfortable was Carson with Parcells when the two were together with the Giants, Carson started the Gatorade shower tradition by dousing Parcells during the 1986 Super Bowl season.
But Carson is now the executive director of the Fritz Pollard Alliance, and when he called Parcells lsat week, it wasn't to exchange holiday greetings.

"When I called him the day he was hired, I let him know that I was not calling as his friend but as executive director of the Fritz Pollard Alliance, and to keep diversity on his mind when looking at the various candidates," Carson said, per Harvey Fialkov of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel.
When Dolphins owner Wayne Huizenga hired Parcells to take over the team's front office, he didn't interview any minority candidates for the job. That showed disregard for the spirit of the NFL's Rooney Rule, which requires teams to interview minority candidates in filling coaching vacancies.
Although the same rule doesn't require minority candidates to be interviewed for front-office jobs like the one Parcells has in Miami, common sense would suggest that if diversity is important in hiring coaches, it's also important in hiring team executives.
According to Carson, Huizenga has a history of ignoring the Rooney Rule. Carson told Fialkov that when Huizenga hired Nick Saban as head coach in 2005, he planned to do so without interviewing any minorities. Carson says that after he called Huizenga to remind him of his obligation, Huizenga put together a cursory interview with Art Shell and then proceeded to hire Saban as planned.
If Parcells takes a similar approach toward hiring a general manager and head coach, Carson vows that he'll take on his old coach. But Carson says Parcells told him he's committed to honoring the Rooney Rule.


"Parcells assured me that he would play into the equation when he made any changes," Carson said.

in the meantime, where's the diversity in hiring CBs? RBs? WRs? hell, QBs while we're at it...
 

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iceberg;1873543 said:
in the meantime, where's the diversity in hiring CBs? RBs? WRs? hell, QBs while we're at it...
You think the lack of diversity at those positions has something to do with racism?
 

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dogunwo;1873549 said:
You think the lack of diversity at those positions has something to do with racism?

no. i just hate having to play games that have no effect on end results really. i think the best players play the position because the owners want to win. same for front office. i don't think they'll hire a "white" guy to win but rather someone they think will win.

i don't see us as a culture ever getting past racism as long as we have divided ourselves up racially and expect things accordingly upon that. if you have one race saying "give me this because i'm xyz" then the other races may resent that.

yes blacks are in a minority in the front office. so are chinese, russians, indians, and emperior penguins.

where are their committees to promote their own advancement in the league?

in my own humble opinion, you hire the best person for the job regardless of race, gender, pizza preferences, and so forth.
 

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iceberg;1873558 said:
no. i just hate having to play games that have no effect on end results really. i think the best players play the position because the owners want to win. same for front office. i don't think they'll hire a "white" guy to win but rather someone they think will win.

i don't see us as a culture ever getting past racism as long as we have divided ourselves up racially and expect things accordingly upon that. if you have one race saying "give me this because i'm xyz" then the other races may resent that.

yes blacks are in a minority in the front office. so are chinese, russians, indians, and emperior penguins.

where are their committees to promote their own advancement in the league?

in my own humble opinion, you hire the best person for the job regardless of race, gender, pizza preferences, and so forth.


I agree with you but rules are rules and so far Parcells and the rest of the NFL are not doing what the rules say.
 

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I wonder if Parcells will look at Crennel?

Crap Cameron isn't even fired yet and already the speculation is run amok.
 

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The Rooney rule is so much politically correct horsecrap. Anytime you try and force things people will find a way around it and generally thumb their noses at it any chance they get. You cannot legislate how people feel.
 

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burmafrd;1873601 said:
The Rooney rule is so much politically correct horsecrap. Anytime you try and force things people will find a way around it and generally thumb their noses at it any chance they get. You cannot legislate how people feel.


With ya there!
 

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burmafrd;1873601 said:
The Rooney rule is so much politically correct horsecrap. Anytime you try and force things people will find a way around it and generally thumb their noses at it any chance they get. You cannot legislate how people feel.

You cannot legislate how people feel? Yeah, actually you can. You must have missed the Civil Rights Movement and all the associated legislation.
 

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HardHittingRoy31;1873565 said:
I agree with you but rules are rules and so far Parcells and the rest of the NFL are not doing what the rules say.

i agree it's a rule and should be followed while in place. i wish it would also be challenged as being a 1-sided rule and not one to benefit *all* - just a segment.

jerry jones did an exhaustive search and satisfied the rule very well. however, i think he did it *not* because of the rule but he was really looking for someone like what he's got now.

if for some reason garrett does wind up going (and i don't think he will because i do believe jerry has him on track to be coach here - maybe to start the season with our new stadium) i'd like to see/learn more about singletary. not because he's black, but he was one of the most intense players on the field and i'd love to see that in a coach.

i want to see people as people, not some label first.
 

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Hostile;1873595 said:
I wonder if Parcells will look at Crennel?

Crap Cameron isn't even fired yet and already the speculation is run amok.


There are Rumors out there that Crennel is on BP's radar but the only problem is Crennel has two years left.

Maybe BP can pull Charlie Weiss out of Norte' Dame!
 

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iceberg;1873607 said:
i agree it's a rule and should be followed while in place. i wish it would also be challenged as being a 1-sided rule and not one to benefit *all* - just a segment.

jerry jones did an exhaustive search and satisfied the rule very well. however, i think he did it *not* because of the rule but he was really looking for someone like what he's got now.

if for some reason garrett does wind up going (and i don't think he will because i do believe jerry has him on track to be coach here - maybe to start the season with our new stadium) i'd like to see/learn more about singletary. not because he's black, but he was one of the most intense players on the field and i'd love to see that in a coach.

i want to see people as people, not some label first.


AMEN!:)
 

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iceberg;1873607 said:
i want to see people as people, not some label first.

That is the ultimate goal -- but when the rule wasn't in place you saw lots of minority coaches not getting any sort of chance and there was a clear pattern of bias. All the league does is enhance the opportunities for minority coaches - the rule is to interview, says nothing about hiring.

Only when mediocre minority coaches (not just the cream of the crop like Dungy and his coaching tree) are getting head coaching jobs and retread minority coaches (other than Art Shell) are constantly in the mix for HC jobs is the playing field going to be even enough and that "people will be seen as people."

I find it a terrible shame that we have to mandate stuff like this. But we do because not doing anything doesn't create a more equal situation.
 

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HardHittingRoy31;1873610 said:
There are Rumors out there that Crennel is on BP's radar but the only problem is Crennel has two years left.

Maybe BP can pull Charlie Weiss out of Norte' Dame!

I don't think Bill can interview a coach who has an HC job. Weiss' shot to get back in the NFL is as an OC.
 

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abersonc;1873634 said:
I don't think Bill can interview a coach who has an HC job. Weiss' shot to get back in the NFL is as an OC.

NFL rules do not apply to college coaches.
 

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abersonc;1873631 said:
That is the ultimate goal -- but when the rule wasn't in place you saw lots of minority coaches not getting any sort of chance and there was a clear pattern of bias. All the league does is enhance the opportunities for minority coaches - the rule is to interview, says nothing about hiring.

Only when mediocre minority coaches (not just the cream of the crop like Dungy and his coaching tree) are getting head coaching jobs and retread minority coaches (other than Art Shell) are constantly in the mix for HC jobs is the playing field going to be even enough and that "people will be seen as people."

I find it a terrible shame that we have to mandate stuff like this. But we do because not doing anything doesn't create a more equal situation.

which is why it's pointless and makes it a game. if you were a black man who really wanted to be an NFL coach, would you want that position because were black, or qualified?

i understand it's intent is to increase the focus on the 'minority' candidate but why is it ok to solve a disparatity problem in the front office but NOT on the field?

how many white CBs are playing today? we lost our asian connection in Dat, who replaced him? how come we can fight for the rights of a misrepresented segment in one place but accept it in another?

i agree it's sad it has to come to this because *this* won't fix anything in the end and only aggrevates the problem in my eyes. forcing you to see color, not people.
 

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abersonc;1873634 said:
I don't think Bill can interview a coach who has an HC job. Weiss' shot to get back in the NFL is as an OC.


I think he can if they are not in the NFL!
 
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