Caution Inside the 10; Risk on Last Pass

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I can applaud or at least accept everything we did in that game except the much too predictable run-run-pass-kick sequence twice inside the ten with a slim lead in the fourth quarter followed by the absolutely senseless last pass that gave the game away when we were tied and had almost no chance to get close enough for a field goal attempt. That was really BAD PLAY CALLING.
 
HDC said:
I can applaud or at least accept everything we did in that game except the much too predictable run-run-pass-kick sequence twice inside the ten with a slim lead in the fourth quarter followed by the absolutely senseless last pass that gave the game away when we were tied and had almost no chance to get close enough for a field goal attempt. That was really BAD PLAY CALLING.


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Yep. I agree. If people want to extend benefit of the doubt to Parcells with regard to the rest of the game, fine, even though I don't agree.

BUT that last pass was just plain flat out stupid. Minimal gain potential, HUGE risk.

And Parcells has shown a history of this. Ultra conservative and then he pulls a stunt like this. He did it in the SF game going for a first on fourth and short, DEEP in his own territory in a game that we had finally gained control of. And that wasn't the first time he's done that.

If this was Campo, Switzer, et al, they'd be burning him in effigy.

As the man sez, "NO matter what you've done in the past, sooner or later you have to prove you can still get the job done."

He's brought in some decent talent. But for every good signing, there's also been a bad one.

So far, his Cowboy record is, 20-20. It doesn't get more mediocre than that.
 
HDC said:
I can applaud or at least accept everything we did in that game except the much too predictable run-run-pass-kick sequence twice inside the ten with a slim lead in the fourth quarter followed by the absolutely senseless last pass that gave the game away when we were tied and had almost no chance to get close enough for a field goal attempt. That was really BAD PLAY CALLING.

I wish everyone would quit whining. If we run the clock out at the end and settle for OT and then lose, the same people would be complaining about not taking chances at the end of regulation. Enough is enough, the bottom line is we lost, get over it.
 
Glenn Carano said:
I wish everyone would quit whining. If we run the clock out at the end and settle for OT and then lose, the same people would be complaining about not taking chances at the end of regulation. Enough is enough, the bottom line is we lost, get over it.

They did take a chance near the end of the game. The situation changed because of the holding penalty. That is when the approach needed to change. Bad coaching decision amplified by a terrible decision by Bledsoe.
 
Juke99 said:
BUT that last pass was just plain flat out stupid. Minimal gain potential, HUGE risk.

And Parcells has shown a history of this. Ultra conservative and then he pulls a stunt like this. He did it in the SF game going for a first on fourth and short, DEEP in his own territory in a game that we had finally gained control of. And that wasn't the first time he's done that.

I think Coach Parcells called a brilliant game up until the final stanza. But you are right, he does have a history of this. In other words, making strange choices late in games.

Flashback to Pittsburgh last year. The decision to drop Testeverde back that resulted in the fumble. You can make a clear case then and now for player execution, but why put them in a position to make a mistake?
 
Glenn Carano said:
I wish everyone would quit whining. If we run the clock out at the end and settle for OT and then lose, the same people would be complaining about not taking chances at the end of regulation. Enough is enough, the bottom line is we lost, get over it.

Agreed.

And even though a pass play is called, Bledsoe has options. He didn't have to throw that ball. He could have simply run up the middle and run the clock out.

Stop blaming the coaches as if Bledsoe had no control over the play. HE made a stupid throw, especially when there were many scenarios he could have employed to get us into overtime.
 
Alexander said:
I think Coach Parcells called a brilliant game up until the final stanza. But you are right, he does have a history of this. In other words, making strange choices late in games.

Flashback to Pittsburgh last year. The decision to drop Testeverde back that resulted in the fumble. You can make a clear case then and now for player execution, but why put them in a position to make a mistake?


Quite brilliant on your part.

Yep, every play gone awry can be blamed on bad execution. But the other part of that equation is that there is an opponent on the field who's execution might be perfect as well. Parcells can only control HALF of what goes on, even if the execution is perfect. There is another team on the field.

and yes, you are dead on...why put the players in a position to make such a huge mistake.

That's what coaching is about...putting your players in a position to win.

If this was another coach, he'd be roasted over that last call...Or if Parcells was still up here in NY, he'd be taking a huge beating over it.
 
joseephuss said:
They did take a chance near the end of the game. The situation changed because of the holding penalty. That is when the approach needed to change. Bad coaching decision amplified by a terrible decision by Bledsoe.

That's BS. You're telling me that you were saying to run out the clock and head to OT at that time? I'm not buying it. There's 14 seconds left, a couple plays for 25 yards and we're in FG range. It's happened before. You all would have been calling BP a wuss for running out the clock and you know it.
 
Both of Bledsoe's INT's came on forcing deep passes. We also had a botched flea flicker stall a key drive late in the game.

Everyone wants aggressive playcalling, until the aggressive playcalling bites you on the arse. Then its always a player's fault, never that the playcalling was too aggressive. I definitely agree that if Bledsoe had just run out the clock at the end of the game everyone would have been screaming bloody murder that we should have been more aggressive. Even if he would have dumped off the pass or thrown it out of bounds people would have screamed "Throw it down the field !! There's only 14 seconds left. What do you have to lose?"
 
Man, you guys are expecting what, a superbowl team. As Troy would say, Get real. This is the first year of the new cowboys. D first, new scheme and all. Its gunna take time boys. Give it 2 years and an other excellent draft centered on the O and we will be legit contenders as good as anyone else in the league. But these are how you learn to win these games. We are playing to our opponents levels, for what ever reason. Fact is we have not been blown out of any games yet. Fact is we could well be undefeated. Fact is we are 4-3. Thats not bad.

Mental mistakes are costing us, but consider this the payment due on a great future. I seem to recall Landry, Shula and Lombardi all having average to sucky teams at the start of their tenure. Sometimes right in the middle or their tenure and believe it or not, not all these coaches made the playoff and won the superbowl every single year. A few of them even lost a game by calling a bad play or series.

In short. I understand why your upseot, but I think your expectations are higher then they should be for this group. Lower them to match the teams talent and you would not be so freaking pissed.

Ou boys are what they are, a young inexperienced group of wanna bes at this point. We will learn to win these types of games on the road and then we will be a better team, but we are not there yet. You would have us tear down the whole thing for 1 loss. Great thats the way to build a dynasty, rip it apart after every loss. No you have to fall down and skin your knees when you learn to ride a bike. Thats what we saw yesterday.

I am not as happy as I would have been is we won. We played a good team that beat us. thats it. No reason to throw your tv out, hit the wife or jump off a ledge. Jeez, get real.
 
I didn't have much problem with the 'conservative' play calling inside the 20. Bledsoe was harrassed all day and clearly not sharp, and the one thing the O-line was doing well was knocking open some holes for the running game.

But I'll admit I haven't a clue why Drew was throwing at the end there.
 
Ashwynn said:
Man, you guys are expecting what, a superbowl team. As Troy would say, Get real. This is the first year of the new cowboys. D first, new scheme and all. Its gunna take time boys. Give it 2 years and an other excellent draft centered on the O and we will be legit contenders as good as anyone else in the league. But these are how you learn to win these games. We are playing to our opponents levels, for what ever reason. Fact is we have not been blown out of any games yet. Fact is we could well be undefeated. Fact is we are 4-3. Thats not bad.

Mental mistakes are costing us, but consider this the payment due on a great future. I seem to recall Landry, Shula and Lombardi all having average to sucky teams at the start of their tenure. Sometimes right in the middle or their tenure and believe it or not, not all these coaches made the playoff and won the superbowl every single year. A few of them even lost a game by calling a bad play or series.

In short. I understand why your upseot, but I think your expectations are higher then they should be for this group. Lower them to match the teams talent and you would not be so freaking pissed.

Ou boys are what they are, a young inexperienced group of wanna bes at this point. We will learn to win these types of games on the road and then we will be a better team, but we are not there yet. You would have us tear down the whole thing for 1 loss. Great thats the way to build a dynasty, rip it apart after every loss. No you have to fall down and skin your knees when you learn to ride a bike. Thats what we saw yesterday.

I am not as happy as I would have been is we won. We played a good team that beat us. thats it. No reason to throw your tv out, hit the wife or jump off a ledge. Jeez, get real.

Finally, a voice of reason, good post.
 
Drew had to throw the ball there. What better chance would we get to win the game? The desired outcome was not OT, the desired outcome was a win. If they went to OT, they were due to lose the coin toss since they won last week. The Defense had just given up 3 straight 22 yard passes. Their FG kicker had already kicked one from 55 while we missed 28. Their best chance was for Drew to connect and get them in FG range. Like Washington, Drew put them in a position to win, and the defense folded. You can't blame Drew when he never should have been out there to begin with. Champion teams hold on the final drive.
 
It is strange that we played 59 and a half minutes of conservative football and threw the ball on the last play of the game.
 
Ashwynn said:
Man, you guys are expecting what, a superbowl team. As Troy would say, Get real. This is the first year of the new cowboys. D first, new scheme and all. Its gunna take time boys. Give it 2 years and an other excellent draft centered on the O and we will be legit contenders as good as anyone else in the league. But these are how you learn to win these games. We are playing to our opponents levels, for what ever reason. Fact is we have not been blown out of any games yet. Fact is we could well be undefeated. Fact is we are 4-3. Thats not bad.

Mental mistakes are costing us, but consider this the payment due on a great future. I seem to recall Landry, Shula and Lombardi all having average to sucky teams at the start of their tenure. Sometimes right in the middle or their tenure and believe it or not, not all these coaches made the playoff and won the superbowl every single year. A few of them even lost a game by calling a bad play or series.

In short. I understand why your upseot, but I think your expectations are higher then they should be for this group. Lower them to match the teams talent and you would not be so freaking pissed.

Ou boys are what they are, a young inexperienced group of wanna bes at this point. We will learn to win these types of games on the road and then we will be a better team, but we are not there yet. You would have us tear down the whole thing for 1 loss. Great thats the way to build a dynasty, rip it apart after every loss. No you have to fall down and skin your knees when you learn to ride a bike. Thats what we saw yesterday.

I am not as happy as I would have been is we won. We played a good team that beat us. thats it. No reason to throw your tv out, hit the wife or jump off a ledge. Jeez, get real.


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Glenn Carano said:
That's BS. You're telling me that you were saying to run out the clock and head to OT at that time? I'm not buying it. There's 14 seconds left, a couple plays for 25 yards and we're in FG range. It's happened before. You all would have been calling BP a wuss for running out the clock and you know it.

Yep, that is what I am saying. After the holding penalty, I was saying to just take a knee. Yes, it has happened before. I just didn't like the odds of it happening again. Thanks for letting me know what I think though. :)
 
I swear a lot of our problem right now is we don't have a consistent RB threat.
 
On the road you always try for the win.

At home you can play for the tie and overtime.

I like the call. The throw was pretty good, would have been a completion at around the Seattle 40 with about 10 seconds left. Plenty of time to gain another ten yards and kick a field goal.

The DB made a great leaping catch.
 
Glenn Carano said:
That's BS. You're telling me that you were saying to run out the clock and head to OT at that time? I'm not buying it. There's 14 seconds left, a couple plays for 25 yards and we're in FG range. It's happened before. You all would have been calling BP a wuss for running out the clock and you know it.

There was not really time for two plays. It was 3rd and 7 from the Cowboys 43, and Dallas had no timeouts, so the only real option was a pass to either sideline, and it needed to be a much deeper throw than the Cowboys executed.

The pass was intercepted at the Seattle 43, so even a completion would have left Dallas out of FG range with about 7-8 seconds on the clock and a borderline chance to pick up the additional 8-10 yards needed for a realistic shot at a FG with another pass to the sidelines.

In that scenario, lots of bad things can happen, and few good things. Overtime offers much better odds.

Just a bad coaching decision and a bad decision on the field by Bledsoe.
 
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