Caution needed with trade ideas right now

[Bobhaze]

I’m going to cut to the chase.

I know this won’t be a popular opinion right now but I’m leery of making a trade for a defensive player using our big future draft capital. I’m not opposed to adding some talent to our defense. I just don’t want to see the #1’s we’ve stockpiled for rebuilding our future be used on a 3-3-1 team that needs a 5-7 player upgrade, not 1-2 players.

Yes, this team is exciting offensively and has been fun to watch. But defensively this team is still a talent starved mess that is NOT one player away from being a contender.

Here are my reasons to not use our big draft capital now:

• I know the NFC is “wide open” (maybe) But we haven’t even won two games in a row yet. I would like to see some consistency before using our biggest assets for a right now moment.
• Bringing in a big name defensive player in exchange for a #1 pick is more short sighted (and expensive) than thoughtfully putting together a young, talented defense that is drafted to be here.
• Maxx Crosby for example is big name, $35 mil a yr player with talent. But that’s close to Parsons money with less talent, and he’s 28 now in his 7th season. That’s a win now player with a financial commitment very close to levels that might prevent more talent added.
• I would rather have a collection of young up and comers for a lot less cap space.
• I don’t want to see a “marketing move” made just for the excitement of the moment only to see us be right back next year needing more draft capital for a rebuild.
• This defense needs a ton of talent to become a contender. One player - even two is not going to get us there now.

I’m not saying we shouldn’t try to improve this team. But I don’t want to see us waste a great opportunity to build a better future because we want to spice up a 3-3-1 team to finish 8-8-1 and not really accomplish anything.

 

[Killerinstinct]

I agree. I don't mid using late round picks to add a LB or S but I don't think they should give up premium picks for a DE. When Draft day comes around I want to have those 3 picks in the top 60.

 

[sunalsorises]

Agreed. About the only trade I might want to see with those picks would be for a difference making HC. Give two ones to the Rams for McVay or something of that ilk. Otherwise, use the picks to make picks.

 

[thunderpimp91]

We still have a few weeks until the trade deadline, I would use that time wisely if I were Jerry. I'm not opposed to a splash move, but at least beat Denver first and let this team show you they are capable of hanging with better teams in the league. If we end up 3-4-1 with 3 losses in conference to Chicago/Philly/Carolina that is an awful lot of tiebreakers for us to be on the wrong side of. Our playoff odds would be down there with the likes of the Raiders who we are trying to buy from.

 

[Bobhaze]

Agreed. About the only trade I might want to see with those picks would be for a difference making HC. Give two ones to the Rams for McVay or something of that ilk. Otherwise, use the picks to make picks.

I’m not sure the rams would take two #1’s for McVay. He’s one of the most innovative offensive minds of this era.

He would also probably never agree to be here where he would be restricted by this team’s “arrangement” with its owner/GM.

 

[Majic]

I agree Bob, great post

 

[FaSho]

I wanna see us move a WR or OL for help, if possible. I just don't want one of those 1sts to get traded!

 

[sunalsorises]

I’m not sure the rams would take two #1’s for McVay. He’s one of the most innovative offensive minds of this era.

He would also probably never agree to be here where he would be restricted by this team’s “arrangement” with its owner/GM.

He is also seems ready to retire any given season. I don't think the Rams part with him for anything which is all the more reason to stand pat and make picks. However, if a comparable trade for a HC is there, and I don't se it, I wouldn't be upset if the picks got used for that.

 

[Chasing6]

I agree. I don't mid using late round picks to add a LB or S but I don't think they should give up premium picks for a DE. When Draft day comes around I want to have those 3 picks in the top 60.

There is not 1 player that fixes our D and makes us a SB contender. I would prefer to reevaluate at the end of the season and possible trade before the draft.

Legit playoff teams may over pay in a trade to get the 1 player they need. No reason for competing in that kind of market.

 

[kumizi]

I think we need a defensive starter at each position to be a good defense. That means we need 4-6 new defensive starters. Pass rusher, interior run stuffer, linebacker, safety, maybe a CB.

I think it is foolish to expect this front office to nail 4-6 positions in one draft and offseason. Therefore, I would feel much better about our offseason goals if we were to acquire 1-2 defensive starters before this coming trade deadline and our needs going into the offseason are much more manageable.

 

[Blackrain]

What you're saying Bob is definitely the rational thing to do.

Unfortunately the Cowboys fan in me feels terrible about wasting the great catches that George Pickens is making the absolutely brutal running by Williams and stellar play by our quarterback.

We flat out should have won the Panthers and eagles game and Packers for that matter if we had just a little bit of defense.

I'm definitely not up for wasting all our draft picks but I could go for Max Crosby he is only a year and a half older than Micah costs less money and I believe has a better attitude towards winning.

Combine him with getting overshawn back and if revel is the player he supposed to be all of a sudden we have a little pass rush and maybe a little secondary help and a linebacker that can tackle.

This might be enough to make us middle of the pack and be able to win enough games to not waste what is a wonderful offense this year

 

[shabazz]

I’m going to cut to the chase.

I know this won’t be a popular opinion right now but I’m leery of making a trade for a defensive player using our big future draft capital. I’m not opposed to adding some talent to our defense. I just don’t want to see the #1’s we’ve stockpiled for rebuilding our future be used on a 3-3-1 team that needs a 5-7 player upgrade, not 1-2 players.

Yes, this team is exciting offensively and has been fun to watch. But defensively this team is still a talent starved mess that is NOT one player away from being a contender.

Here are my reasons to not use our big draft capital now:

• I know the NFC is “wide open” (maybe) But we haven’t even won two games in a row yet. I would like to see some consistency before using our biggest assets for a right now moment.
• Bringing in a big name defensive player in exchange for a #1 pick is more short sighted (and expensive) than thoughtfully putting together a young, talented defense that is drafted to be here.
• Maxx Crosby for example is big name, $35 mil a yr player with talent. But that’s close to Parsons money with less talent, and he’s 28 now in his 7th season. That’s a win now player with a financial commitment very close to levels that might prevent more talent added.
• I would rather have a collection of young up and comers for a lot less cap space.
• I don’t want to see a “marketing move” made just for the excitement of the moment only to see us be right back next year needing more draft capital for a rebuild.
• This defense needs a ton of talent to become a contender. One player - even two is not going to get us there now.

I’m not saying we shouldn’t try to improve this team. But I don’t want to see us waste a great opportunity to build a better future because we want to spice up a 3-3-1 team to finish 8-7-1 and not really accomplish anything.

But Bobbo,....why must it be that the 1st rd draft picks traded can only help us "this year"?

Why cant it be for a player with 3 years left on his contract?

The best deals may very well be " in season " with teams that have to shed salaries for 2026.

Certainty not 1 year deals but if we agree that the offense and STs are currently top 5, and there is a window closing, why wait till after the season if a deal comes available?

 

[ChuckA1]

The other side of your very intelligent trades concern is this: Dak is having an outstanding year, but it's his 10th year in the league. How many more years does he have at this level? Will being aggressive now work better with him leading the team?

 

[shabazz]

The other side of your very intelligent trades concern is this: Dak is having an outstanding year, but it's his 10th year in the league. How many more years does he have at this level? Will being aggressive now work better with him leading the team?

Brady maintained a high level for 23 years so im thinking we have till 2040 at the very least with Rayne.

 

[StarOfGlory]

Our biggest issue with regard to a trade is that we have very few player assets to move. Teams will want our draft picks. Who would realistically trade for a player on the level of a Crosby anyway that another team would want unless you're getting a stud in return? We have very few players that meet that definition. Cee Dee, Smith, even Albrey if some team is desperate for a win now kicker? It would take a top pick and a promising young player to get a Maxx Crosby. A #1 pick plus someone like Booker or Beebe might get it done. If a team was willing to gamble on the health of Overshown, would you trade him and a #1 for Crosby?

 

[charron]

Hard to win games when they simply lack players. Add a NT and a MLB and anything else on defense, safety or DE and watch them start winning some games. This offense needs a little help and right now the defense just isn't giving much even vs bad opponents.

 

[Creeper]

I agree. I would not trade those 1s for anyone unless he in in his mid-20s and has at least 5 good years left in him.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I agree. I don't mid using late round picks to add a LB or S but I don't think they should give up premium picks for a DE. When Draft day comes around I want to have those 3 picks in the top 60.

that's my thought process too. we don't need to build a top notch defense. we just need to be a solid low 20s type of defense.

 

[beware_d-ware]

If we're trading for a dude who will factor into the '26 and '27 plans, then sure. If it's a Mingo type panic trade to plug a hole in the 2025 season, then screw it. This is a .500 roster, you're not going to plug enough holes to save it.

 

[75boyz]

We still have a few weeks until the trade deadline, I would use that time wisely if I were Jerry. I'm not opposed to a splash move, but at least beat Denver first and let this team show you they are capable of hanging with better teams in the league. If we end up 3-4-1 with 3 losses in conference to Chicago/Philly/Carolina that is an awful lot of tiebreakers for us to be on the wrong side of. Our playoff odds would be down there with the likes of the Raiders who we are trying to buy from.

Yep, good call Thunder. I'd be a very cautious buyer until after the Bronco game as well.
Because theres a total logjam of practically the entire NFC with regards to win/loss records.

As you stated, 3 NFC losses already does not bode well in the bigger playoff picture scheme of things concerning possible tiebreakers and such.

I want so very hard to believe that the acquisition of a FA DE combined with Overshown's return will transform our 1st and 2nd levels of defense while helping the existing back 4/5 as well.

I want to believe, but the defense as a whole has just been so bad so far, that I think it still may be a too little too late type situation if we got into the FA deadline trading game.

So I'm presently torn between giving draft capital for this year's risk/uncertainty.
But I want to believe in this year.
So at least my "want to" is still in order.