CB Terrance Mitchell

[MichaelWinicki]

Mitchell had the best "3-cone" and "Shuttle" times at the combine for DB's.

A terrific pickup in round 7.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Tangent, but if we had taken Mitchell in the 4th and Hitchens in the 7th a lot of the people complaining about Hitchens would be very happy - and we still got both players.

There's a lot of truth in what you posted.

I think many folks would up the Cowboys overall draft grade by a 1/2... which is kinda goofy because they would end up with the same players.

 

[Gaede]

Mitchell had the best "3-cone" and "Shuttle" times at the combine.

A terrific pickup in round 7.

Yeah, love this pick. Good player with several INTs, physical and runs very well

 

[BEASToftheEAST]

Sorry if a repost, but who does this kid know that gives him access to the great Ronnie Lott???

 

[xwalker]

Mitchell had the best "3-cone" and "Shuttle" times at the combine for DB's.

A terrific pickup in round 7.

Yes, Revis is the only player I recall ever having a better 3-cone. Revis 6.56, Mitchell 6.57.

 

[starfrombirth]

Yes, Revis is the only player I recall ever having a better 3-cone. Revis 6.56, Mitchell 6.57.

Really? Wow! I didn't realize that. So his only problem is that he doesn't have great straight line speed and needs to work on technique. We can't teach speed but if we can get his technique better then this pick has been worth it... yes??

 

[xwalker]

Really? Wow! I didn't realize that. So his only problem is that he doesn't have great straight line speed and needs to work on technique. We can't teach speed but if we can get his technique better then this pick has been worth it... yes??

He has a better 20-yard split than Terrence Newman despite Newman running a 4.37 forty.
Twenty Yard:
Newman: 2.61
Mitchell: 2.59

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Yes, Revis is the only player I recall ever having a better 3-cone. Revis 6.56, Mitchell 6.57.

I read some place about Mitchell's start for the "40" at the combine didn't go smoothly and that may have contributed to his poor time.

 

[starfrombirth]

He has a better 20-yard split than Terrence Newman despite Newman running a 4.37 forty.
Twenty Yard:
Newman: 2.61
Mitchell: 2.59

I noticed this as well (times not comparisons - I'd love to learn how you have all this info so readily available) which leads me to believe that he will be better in the slot than the outside. He's a hand fighter so that will have to be coached but if he has the hips and quickness that they say, slot, in my opinion, is his best spot.

 

[DFWJC]

Tangent, but if we had taken Mitchell in the 4th and Hitchens in the 7th a lot of the people complaining about Hitchens would be very happy - and we still got both players.

Ironically, true.

Give me Telvin Smith or maybe Pierre Desir in the 4th and I'd be even happier

 

[DBOY3141]

I read some place about Mitchell's start for the "40" at the combine didn't go smoothly and that may have contributed to his poor time.

Do you know if he improved his forty at his pro-day? Even with a poor forty at the combine but these other good stats and good rankings from the "experts" wonder why he dropped all the way to almost UDFA status.

 

[starfrombirth]

I read some place about Mitchell's start for the "40" at the combine didn't go smoothly and that may have contributed to his poor time.

True but even on the rerun at his proday he still ran 4.52 which while respectable still isn't deep speed. That being said, it dawns on me that there have been quite a few corners that ran in this range. What they had though, that he doesn't have, is great technique. That's the big knock on him right now. Hopefully we can fix that and will have made a great find.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I noticed this as well (times not comparisons - I'd love to learn how you have all this info so readily available) which leads me to believe that he will be better in the slot than the outside. He's a hand fighter so that will have to be coached but if he has the hips and quickness that they say, slot, in my opinion, is his best spot.

He would also be a good "zone" corner because he wouldn't have to follow his guy all across the field.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

True but even on the rerun at his proday he still ran 4.52 which while respectable still isn't deep speed. That being said, it dawns on me that there have been quite a few corners that ran in this range. What they had though, that he doesn't have, is great technique. That's the big knock on him right now. Hopefully we can fix that and will have made a great find.

Just for grins I looked up Richard Sherman's combine #'s...

4.56 40
6.82 3-cone
4.33 shuttle

 

[starfrombirth]

Just for grins I looked up Richard Sherman's combine #'s...

4.56 40
6.82 3-cone
4.33 shuttle

Pre-draft measurables
Ht...........Wt.......40-yd dash...10-yd split...20-yd split...20-ss...3-cone..Vert......Broad......BP........Wonderlic
6 ft 3 in..195 lb...4.54 s............1.56 s........2.56 s.........4.29 s...6.72 s...38 in....11 ft 0 in..16 reps..24
All values from NFL Combine

Yep .. but Sherman is 3 inches taller and developed exactly what we were just talking about... technique. Also, Sherman is very physical. Mitchell is the opposite of that. Like I said, I hope that we can coach him up to improve his technique and reduce his "business decisions" and have found that hidden gem.

 

[xwalker]

Pre-draft measurables
Ht...........Wt.......40-yd dash...10-yd split...20-yd split...20-ss...3-cone..Vert......Broad......BP........Wonderlic
6 ft 3 in..195 lb...4.54 s............1.56 s........2.56 s.........4.29 s...6.72 s...38 in....11 ft 0 in..16 reps..24
All values from NFL Combine

Yep .. but Sherman is 3 inches taller and developed exactly what we were just talking about... technique. Also, Sherman is very physical. Mitchell is the opposite of that. Like I said, I hope that we can coach him up to improve his technique and reduce his "business decisions" and have found that hidden gem.

I don't see a lack of physicality with Mitchell. He might be too physical in pass coverage. In run support, he rarely has a Safety nearby and is the last line of defense on outside runs. He appears to be coached to keep his feet and not give up the big play. He typical CB taking out the RBs feet for a Wow type play is not a good option for him with nobody behind him. If he misses, then the RB is off to the races down the sideline. In situations were he had deep help he was more physical.