Adult Language CDs message to Dak

[Iago33]

Yes, this guy is the key to the season...or not...

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Nice to see you back, X.

 

[Mark]

Still should have been done on time.

Mark said:
Lamb was ALREADY signed for the 2024 season...in the same boat as Dak. His holdout for an extension was in breach of his existing contract (while Dak honored his). Lamb's absence was on him, not the FO.
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It was done AHEAD of time. Lamb was already hired for the 2024, and in no way was entitled to an extension...that's the team's prerogative, not his. CeeDee screwed his team by not honoring his current contract, failing to show up for camp. Which has hurt his team in the early going...because he wasn't present, as his contract required him to be.

I'm fine with Jerry not negotiating with "terrorists," who attempt to renege on deals already made and paid.

I disrespect Lamb for what he did. And disrespect Zach Martin for doing the same thing, setting a contract-breaching precedent, thus emboldening others (who come to believe they are indispensable to the team) to attempt to hold the Dallas Cowboys hostage to their extension demands. It's wrong. And toxic to a locker room, where different classes of players start to get carved-out. It breeds resentment.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Before we get all concerned and but hurt we need to take a deep breath, take an hour meditating the words of Benny Hill and wait for Mother Lamb to weigh in, ya think?

I trust Leta's instincts, certainly more than Tad and Terrence.

 

[Coogiguy03]

the problem seems to be they are not on the same page which makes them both a part of the problem... a real FO would get them into a room and get this fixed because neither is going anywhere anytime soon. Stop saying "There is no problem" its clear as day on the TV every week.

Oh he's just a competitor and he wants to win, we're good we're brothers and that's what happens lol, yeah ok I think CEEDEE is second guessing signing that deal

 

[Zekeats]

Any Cowboys fan of the past 8 seasons knows thats Daks back of the endzone jump ball pass.

 

[cowboyed]

I don't consider player communication miscues as quarrels. And yes Brooks was open for that intercepted gift wrapped pass. CeeDee is an exceptional receiver but he is not a quantum physical receiver - you know where he could be in two places at the same time.

 

[Chasing6]

Mark said:
Lamb was ALREADY signed for the 2024 season...in the same boat as Dak. His holdout for an extension was in breach of his existing contract (while Dak honored his). Lamb's absence was on him, not the FO.
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It was done AHEAD of time. Lamb was already hired for the 2024, and in no way was entitled to an extension...that's the team's prerogative, not his. CeeDee screwed his team by not honoring his current contract, failing to show up for camp. Which has hurt his team in the early going...because he wasn't present, as his contract required him to be.

I'm fine with Jerry not negotiating with "terrorists," who attempt to renege on deals already made and paid.

I disrespect Lamb for what he did. And disrespect Zach Martin for doing the same thing, setting a contract-breaching precedent, thus emboldening others (who come to believe they are indispensable to the team) to attempt to hold the Dallas Cowboys hostage to their extension demands. It's wrong. And toxic to a locker room, where different classes of players start to get carved-out. It breeds resentment.

Extension should have been done on time. Not hard to figure it out. What did we save by waiting? Nothing.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Well, yeah.
He had big receivers who made it easier for him.
I wonder how often did he not see what he liked on the timing rout and bailed and went another receiver?

I would think not much as Irvin would catch it anyways...

 

[CowboyFrog]

I disagree. The media will keep trying to create problems. They profit from it and fans eat it right up.

The solution isnt to get them in a room. I'm sure they spend enough time in rooms already.

The solution is McCarthy moving CD around so the defenses can't roll coverage to him and both him and Dak have these plays made from frustration.
Don't just tell the guys to not be competitive. Put them in the position to succeed.

Im not saying dont be competitive, I'm saying i kinda agree with Lamb a jump ball might have worked...they need to communicate BEFORE games about defensive film and what they want to do as a #1 combo...be on the same page...

 

[CowboyFrog]

Smfh, that tells me that you know nothing. It has nothing to do with the FO, it had to do with missed time in training camp due to holding out.
They will get things worked out

you mean they need to get on the same page? you literally said i know nothing then said what i said...ok

 

[xwalker]

And?

The thing is we need deep speed, preferably with some height. Tyron Billy-Johnson could help with his 4.34 speed and decent height (6'1").

Denzel Mims (6'3", 4.38 speed) was brought in for a workout today but was not signed. Instead, the Cowboys signed to their practice squad Seth Williams who has height but is much slower (6'3", 4.54 speed). Looks like the Cowboys are not taking deep speed seriously. With the next 6 opponents being extremely tough and very good teams with playoffs good defenses, we shall soon find out who was right: you and the Cowboys ...... or me ...... about needing deep speed with height to pose as a deep threat and help open things up better underneath for our slower WRs?

Remember this post.

Tyron Johnson had a 4.36 Pro Day time.

Flournoy had a 4.38 combine hand-held time.

Some teams prefer the combine hand-held times over electronic.

Most teams add 0.05 to the Peo Day times.
- i.e. 4.36 becomes 4.41.

Ten-Yard
Flournoy 1.50 combine (weight 202)
Tyron Johnson 1.57 pro-day (weight 193)

 

[OmerV]

This is one of several interpretations I've seen. If this is the accurate one I think people owe CD an apology because that's not an unreasonable or hostile thing to convey, but many thought CeeDee being a jerk and ragging on Dez.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Tyron Johnson had a 4.36 Pro Day time.

Flournoy had a 4.38 combine hand-held time.

Some teams prefer the combine hand-held times over electronic.

Most teams add 0.05 to the Peo Day times.
- i.e. 4.36 becomes 4.41.

Ten-Yard
Flournoy 1.50 combine (weight 202)
Tyron Johnson 1.57 pro-day (weight 193)

Flournoy had a 4.44 combine electronic 40 yd dash time.



That is still slower than Billy-Johnson's 40 time.

 

[Hadenough]

The problem is there is no speed in this WR group. Jerry needs to go sign Tyron Billy-Johnson. He knows the playbook and system. His deep speed would greatly help keep CeeDee from constantly getting double covered. It's not hard to understand how to fix this, but this team (ownership and coaches) makes it hard.

People just need to realize that defenses can roll coverage to take away a guy like Lamb. Dak just needs to find other guys. Tolbert and Ferguson were pretty good. Throwing deep isn't the answer when Dak may not have time.

 

[RonnieT24]

People just need to realize that defenses can roll coverage to take away a guy like Lamb. Dak just needs to find other guys. Tolbert and Ferguson were pretty good. Throwing deep isn't the answer when Dak may not have time.

Yea the call to go deep more doesn't really doesn't make sense when the line is struggling to protect. As long as the line can't even give Dak 2.5 seconds the Cowboys are going to be a short to intermediate passing team.

 

[xwalker]

Flournoy had a 4.44 combine electronic 40 yd dash time.



That is still slower than Billy-Johnson's 40 time.

That was in my original reply...

Pro-Day forty times are historically faster than combine times.

BJ was pro-day.
Flournoy was combine.

 

[America's Cowboy]

That was in my original reply...

Pro-Day forty times are historically faster than combine times.

BJ was pro-day.
Flournoy was combine.

If you compensate and lower BJ's 40 time, he is still faster than Flournoy.

 

[RonnieT24]

That was in my original reply...

Pro-Day forty times are historically faster than combine times.

BJ was pro-day.
Flournoy was combine.

If you compensate and lower BJ's 40 time, he is still faster than Flournoy.

Not so. According to this track and field website https://support.athletic.net/article/4sjokyho13-hand-time-conversion-standards the conversion factor from hand time to electronic is .24 seconds. That would RAISE TBJ's 4.36 pro day time to 4.58 which would indeed be slower than Flournoy's 4.44 at the combine. Hell that's slower than CeeDee's combine time (4.51). Even Tolbert ran faster (4.49) at the combine. TBH neither of them looked as fast as Turpin when I watched them during preseason. But Turpin being a much shorter guys needs greater turnover to generate the same speed as taller guys so he will always LOOK faster. But most importantly he seems to PLAY faster than them as well. All of those times in shorts only tell you part of the story anyway. Some guys lose more speed in pads than others. A lot of that depends on their stride, their leg strength etc. I would advise everybody to focus more on how well guys play football than how fast they can run in shorts. I mean I guess it's fun to talk about.. but super speed alone has never been enough to make a good football player.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Not so. According to this track and field website https://support.athletic.net/article/4sjokyho13-hand-time-conversion-standards the conversion factor from hand time to electronic is .24 seconds. That would RAISE TBJ's 4.36 pro day time to 4.58 which would indeed be slower than Flournoy's 4.44 at the combine. Hell that's slower than CeeDee's combine time (4.51). Even Tolbert ran faster (4.49) at the combine. TBH neither of them looked as fast as Turpin when I watched them during preseason. But Turpin being a much shorter guys needs greater turnover to generate the same speed as taller guys so he will always LOOK faster. But most importantly he seems to PLAY faster than them as well. All of those times in shorts only tell you part of the story anyway. Some guys lose more speed in pads than others. A lot of that depends on their stride, their leg strength etc. I would advise everybody to focus more on how well guys play football than how fast they can run in shorts. I mean I guess it's fun to talk about.. but super speed alone has never been enough to make a good football player.

I read on another site how it was a .15 seconds more difference. THAT would have equaled to still a faster 40 for B-J over Flournoy.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I would think not much as Irvin would catch it anyways...

I commented a couple weeks ago that Irvin and Aikman would laugh out loud at this new "separation" stat.