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Okay, we disagree on his value, I agree with the trade just not the compensation.

Yah, but your view that Cooper is top 7 isnt even close. The guys a career 1000 yard 6 TD player.

Lets just start with the AFC: Stephon Diggs, Hill, Waddle, Chase, Adams

NFC: AJ Brown, Lamb, St Brown, Jefferson, Evans, Deebo, Metcalf, Locket, Hopkins, Kupp,

On the fence: McLauren, Pittman, Godwin

There are some young guys too that when its all said and done might be better: Garrett Wilson, London, Olave,

The first two lists there is no argument. Cooper is NOT better than any of those guys. So he is somewhere between 16-20 at the moment.
 
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Okay, we disagree on his value, I agree with the trade just not the compensation.
He helped us to get to 2 playoff games in 4 years
Are you drunk? Lamb has been here 3 years and been in one playoff game. Who cares how many TD's hes had. Most guys havent been here 6 years as our WR's..

And besides..............who cares about playoff TD? LOL

Meaningless for this group.
Ceedee only had 1 catch last year much less a playoff TD lol

In that Rams playoff game Coop scored the first TD in it also and a 2 point Conversion

Coop was the only wr and te to score in that game also.

Even if CeeDee is on par w Cooper and we believe that then what?

Lmao
 

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He helped us to get to 2 playoff games in 4 years

Ceedee only had 1 catch last year much less a playoff TD lol

In that Rams playoff game Coop scored the first TD in it also and a 2 point Conversion

Coop was the only wr and te to score in that game also.

Even if CeeDee is on par w Cooper then what?

Lmao

Judging any receiver on one playoff game is laughable. Especially considering we played the best defense in the NFL. But maybe thats the ONLY angle you can seem to muster.
 

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Okay, we disagree on his value, I agree with the trade just not the compensation.

Yah, but your view that Cooper is top 7 isnt even close. The guys a career 1000 yard 6 TD player.

Lets just start with the AFC: Stephon Diggs, Hill, Waddle, Chase, Adams

NFC: AJ Brown, Lamb, St Brown, Jefferson, Evans, Deebo, Metcalf, Locket, Hopkins, Kupp,

On the fence: McLauren, Pittman, Godwin

There are some young guys too that when its all said and done might be better: Garrett Wilson, London, Olave,

The first two lists there is no argument. Cooper is NOT better than any of those guys. So he is somewhere between 16-20 at the moment.
 

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Judging any receiver on one playoff game is laughable. Especially considering we played the best defense in the NFL. But maybe thats the ONLY angle you can seem to muster.
oh I like CeeDee. And I think he can score 1 TD even if hes never scored one before

Do I think he can score enough tds during a 3 game playoff stretch w/o a slump to overcome a Loss at some point

I'll have to see it to believe it

So far hes only scored in 5 games this year and this is the opponents

Ceedees 6 tds

Giants 1
Washington 1
Chicago 1
Green Bay 2
Indy 1

Gallops 3 tds

Washington 1
Indy 2

These weren't any legitimate playoff contenders but I still think ceedee can get 1 in the first game.

There's not a lot of scoring sauce in some of those games against them better teams

These weren't lose and go home games either
 
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oh I like CeeDee. And I think he can score 1 TD even if hes never scored one before

Do I think he can score enough tds during a 3 game playoff stretch w/o a slump to overcome a Loss at some point

I'll have to see it to believe it

So far hes only scored in 5 games this year and this is the opponents

Ceedees 6 tds

Giants 1
Washington 1
Chicago 1
Green Bay 2
Indy 1

Gallops 3 tds

Washington 1
Indy 2

These weren't any legitimate playoff contenders but I still think ceedee can get 1 in the first game.

There's not a lot of scoring sauce in some of those games against them better teams

These weren't lose and go home games either

Yah, I'm still puzzled by this whole angle of yours. Doesn't seem relevant to me.

Maybe you could look at the defenses Ceedee has had success against or top corners. But I still dont see how that will have much bearing on what we do in the playoffs.

Let Ceedee get 120 yards and get us down to the 5 and let Pollard or Zeke run it in. Makes no difference to me.
 
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Yah, I'm still puzzled by this whole angle of yours. Doesn't seem relevant to me.

I know because most peeps just see receptions and yards.

There are scoring averages too Cowboyroy

Do you think Zeke and Pollard can score 8-9 tds over a 3 game stretch in the playoffs

Because some player has to score

Who are these players that can score over that 3 game playoff stretch based upon strength of competition and their averages?
 
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I know because most peeps just see receptions and yards.

There are scoring averages too Cowboyroy

Do you think Zeke and Pollard can score 8-9 tds over a 3 game stretch in the playoffs

Because some player has to score

Who are these players that can score over that 3 game playoff stretch based upon strength of competition and their averages?

You dont need to have scored in the playoffs previously to be able to score now in the playoffs? Are you serious with this stuff?

We have plenty of weapons and plenty of guys that can score. Again, your one game average nonsense seems pointless. The Cowboys haven't been in enough playoff games to deduce anything about these players in the playoffs.
 

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You dont need to have scored in the playoffs previously to be able to score now in the playoffs? Are you serious with this stuff?

We have plenty of weapons and plenty of guys that can score. Again, your one game average nonsense seems pointless. The Cowboys haven't been in enough playoff games to deduce anything about these players in the playoffs.

But we know what CeeDee and Gallop did this year against playoff contenders

Gallop has a playoff TD back in 2018 but he only has 3 tds this year so far.

Hey if we run the ball very well for about 150-200 yards per game in the playoffs for 3 games in a row and finish with 2-3 tds by Zeke, Pollard, or Dak every game then yes based upon our strategy sure we could win the Superbowl.

But what are the odds of us running for 150-200 yards in the Playoffs for 3 games in a row.

Do you think we can do that 3 straight games???

We went into the playoffs last year and got like 50 yards rushing and got turned 1 dimensional

Its harder to run and score at the playoff level than the regular season too.

Ask our first ballot hof te that has 1 lifetime playoff TD if his RB could do it 3 games in a row??

Can ya kinda see why the scoring avgs matter and why Gronks 15 playoff tds equate to winning playoff games.

Somebody has to score 24-30 points per game and a fg is only 3 points lmao
 
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I'm here to eat crow. I'm one of those who was b!tching and griping on how it was a stupid move to get rid of Cooper - and for so little.

Well, crow never tasted so good. And it taste like Lamb!!

Ceedee has really impressed me these past few weeks. I'm glad that Moore has finally moved him around and make him an integral part of the offense.
 

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Yah, but your view that Cooper is top 7 isnt even close. The guys a career 1000 yard 6 TD player.

Lets just start with the AFC: Stephon Diggs, Hill, Waddle, Chase, Adams

NFC: AJ Brown, Lamb, St Brown, Jefferson, Evans, Deebo, Metcalf, Locket, Hopkins, Kupp,

On the fence: McLauren, Pittman, Godwin

There are some young guys too that when its all said and done might be better: Garrett Wilson, London, Olave,

The first two lists there is no argument. Cooper is NOT better than any of those guys. So he is somewhere between 16-20 at the moment.

Not here to argue it is my opinion, plus you have listed some slot guys and they are not the same as WR1 and what their responsibility is on the field. You have put a good amount of talent in your response and IMO he belongs with them.
 

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But we know what CeeDee and Gallop did this year against playoff contenders

Gallop has a playoff TD back in 2018 but he only has 3 tds this year so far.

Hey if we run the ball very well for about 150-200 yards per game in the playoffs for 3 games in a row and finish with 2-3 tds by Zeke, Pollard, or Dak every game then yes based upon our strategy sure we could win the Superbowl.

But what are the odds of us running for 150-200 yards in the Playoffs for 3 games in a row.

Do you think we can do that 3 straight games???

We went into the playoffs last year and got like 50 yards rushing and got turned 1 dimensional

Its harder to run and score at the playoff level than the regular season too.

Ask our first ballot hof te that has 1 lifetime playoff TD if his RB could do it 3 games in a row??

Can ya kinda see why the scoring avgs matter and why Gronks 15 playoff tds equate to winning playoff games.

Somebody has to score 24-30 points per game and a fg is only 3 points lmao

No, I dont see how any of your angles means anything about what might happen in the playoffs this year. The same guys scoring for us now are the guys that are going to be scoring for us in the playoffs. But then again, if we play SF in the playoffs there might be a good chance we dont score much and get beat first game. They have the best defense in the NFL.
 

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If Coop had just built on his first year here, he would have been one of our team’s best ever receivers. All the talent in the world, smart player, sturdy, but just seems like doesn’t have the heart in it to make teams believe he is the man. CeeDee used to frustrate me how visible his emotions were on the field when he failed, but at least I know the guy has the passion. Good to see him starting to reach the next level, and definitely some rhythm now between him and Dak, and Kellen also seems to know how to leverage his talent better too.
 

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Not here to argue it is my opinion, plus you have listed some slot guys and they are not the same as WR1 and what their responsibility is on the field. You have put a good amount of talent in your response and IMO he belongs with them.

All those top15 guys are better than Cooper. He is not in their class.
 

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If Coop had just built on his first year here, he would have been one of our team’s best ever receivers. All the talent in the world, smart player, sturdy, but just seems like doesn’t have the heart in it to make teams believe he is the man. CeeDee used to frustrate me how visible his emotions were on the field when he failed, but at least I know the guy has the passion. Good to see him starting to reach the next level, and definitely some rhythm now between him and Dak, and Kellen also seems to know how to leverage his talent better too.

Doesnt have the heart, too stiff, and seems to be consistently dinged up. He isnt a dominant guy. Reliable and can get open, but not dominating.
 

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No, I dont see how any of your angles means anything about what might happen in the playoffs this year. The same guys scoring for us now are the guys that are going to be scoring for us in the playoffs. But then again, if we play SF in the playoffs there might be a good chance we dont score much and get beat first game. They have the best defense in the NFL.

We use the same strategy every single week including the playoffs. So we have to win using the same strategy 3 weeks in a row.

I'm not so sure using the same strategy 3 weeks in a row is gonna pan out but I'm hopeful

It hard enough to run great 3 weeks in a row in the regular season

The odds are stacked against us that our rbs can pull off 7-8 tds w our type of strategy

Can our te or wr core win the game if we get forced into a one dimensional passing offense if they shut down our run game.

Nah
 
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We use the same strategy every single week including the playoffs. So we have to win using the same strategy 3 weeks in a row.

I'm not so sure using the same strategy 3 weeks in a row is gonna pan out but I'm hopeful

It hard enough to run great 3 weeks in a row in the regular season

The odds are stacked against us that our rbs can pull off 7-8 tds w our type of strategy

Can our te or wr core win the game if we get forced into a one dimensional passing offense if they shut down our run game.

Nah

Odds are against any team beating 3 great teams 3 weeks in a row. This team can score via the run, the pass, however they need to. Doesnt mean its going to happen.

With what type of strategy are you talking about? You make a strategy based off the team you are playing each week and their weaknesses. Thats even more so in the playoffs.

Are you attempting to imply that we have have a weak passing game?
 

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Odds are against any team beating 3 great teams 3 weeks in a row. This team can score via the run, the pass, however they need to. Doesnt mean its going to happen.

With what type of strategy are you talking about? You make a strategy based off the team you are playing each week and their weaknesses. Thats even more so in the playoffs.

Are you attempting to imply that we have have a weak passing game?

No I'm just saying that other teams in the playoffs have a better balance at Passing 1st and running 2nd vs tougher teams

We're a little more tilted to the run than the pass when it comes down to scoring against better opponents

So if our run game gets stifled we tend to get one dimensional passing like we did against SF and the Rams

We ran good against against the Seahawks in the wild card game. Put up like 150

But then Todd Gurley and cJ anderson etc ran it down our throats for 275 yards the next week and Zeke and company got 45 yards
 

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No I'm just saying that other teams in the playoffs have a better balance at Passing 1st and running 2nd vs tougher teams

We're a little more tilted to the run than the pass when it comes down to scoring against better opponents

So if our run game gets stifled we tend to get one dimensional like we did against SF and the Rams

We ran good against against the Seahawks in the wild card game.

But then Todd Gurley and cJ anderson etc ran it down our throats for 275 yards the next week and Zeke and company got 45 yards

What the hell are you talking about buddy? LOL

Seahawks? Are you talking about 5 years ago?

Todd Gurley? LOL

Keep smoking buddy. You are hilarious!!!
 

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What the hell are you talking about buddy? LOL

Seahawks? Are you talking about 5 years ago?

Todd Gurley? LOL

Keep smoking buddy. You are hilarious!!!
I'm telling you our passing attack is tied to us running the ball effectively every week. Not just every other week. Every team isnt built that way

You shut down our running attack from scoring and we're one dimensional and D.O.N.E.

WE DONT HAVE A BUNCH OF WRS AND TES THAT CAN CROSS THE GOAL LINE AGAINST PLAYOFF TEAMS

1playoff game maybe

Not 3 playoff games in a row. y'all dreaming
 
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