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Lamb? Great question. I dont think any WR is worth 21 million. But based on the current market, yes I would pay him 21 million. Definitely better than Cooper.

Sadly he will probably get 27 million by the time he signs. Im of a mind that if you pay a QB 40 million you shouldnt be paying WR's top notch money. If we have to pay him 27 million I might think about trading him for first round picks like some of these other teams have done.
The Giants will take him lmao
 

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"Advanced statistics" are difficult to find, but there are only 14 plays where we used the other tes.

Of those plays Schultz took 6 off, as we had 64 total offensive plays ran.

You could guess we ran 12 personell maybe half a dozen plays, if that, because we weren't running it with any combination that didn't include Schultz.

I can't find a break down of formations, but the snap count is revealing.

My point, its not the formation hurting us in the playoffs.

You'll need to find another scapegoat. I also need to point out for the fifth time I didn't "vote Cooper off," I was against trading him.
Its not just the lack of playoff success

There were alot of elimination games that we lost in the same fashion. W #82 and Escobar or Hanna leading snapcounts

Witten would catch 10 passes and we'd still lose because of it lol

There's is only an avg # of balls to go around. But we play like there is an unlimited amount lmao

We run our rbs like their gonna get 3 tds a game but they only avg less than 1
 
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Its not just the lack of playoff success

There were alot of elimination games that we lost in the same fashion. W #82 and Escobar or Hanna leading snapcounts

Witten would catch 10 passes and we'd still lose because of it lol

Most of our crucial losses have come down to our best players screwing up at the worst possible times. It's been hard to swallow.
 

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Lamb? Great question. I dont think any WR is worth 21 million. But based on the current market, yes I would pay him 21 million. Definitely better than Cooper.

Sadly he will probably get 27 million by the time he signs. Im of a mind that if you pay a QB 40 million you shouldnt be paying WR's top notch money. If we have to pay him 27 million I might think about trading him for first round picks like some of these other teams have done.

I get that, buts it's kind of like having an amazing oline and then bringing in DMC to carry the load. Yes you will get production, but it won't be as dominant as 2016 Zeke.
 

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I get that, buts it's kind of like having an amazing oline and then bringing in DMC to carry the load. Yes you will get production, but it won't be as dominant as 2016 Zeke.

I praise these tes for coming in and trying to be Gronk and Hernandez ironman everysnap players

But you're Tyler Higbee and Jake Ferguson and you're just basically a downfield blocker and NON-FACTORS offensively

So go sit down it's 3rd and 15 and you've both come up empty handed on the last 27 attempts at that down and distance ha ha ha

So we're gonna use this # 1 drafted Wr or RB that actually has a skillset for this down and distance that can do something more than get in the way ha ha ha

Did you ever see James Hanna's and #82s snapcounts on passing downs

How many passes did JH catch out of the 1000's he had. Lol

And you'd rather have that than Cooper or Obj as the trio
 
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I'd rather run w that trio on 1st and 2nd down and let them block their own guy

I'd rather have the firepower on all 3 downs most of the time than invite a lb to just to block w our designated blockers

I don't care if their wide open they ain't avg but nine yards and they can't score so let's double team Cooper instead ha ha ha

A ball will get batted or he'll fumble eventually so let them waste their throws on the non factor lol
 

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Lamb? Great question. I dont think any WR is worth 21 million. But based on the current market, yes I would pay him 21 million. Definitely better than Cooper.

Sadly he will probably get 27 million by the time he signs. Im of a mind that if you pay a QB 40 million you shouldnt be paying WR's top notch money. If we have to pay him 27 million I might think about trading him for first round picks like some of these other teams have done.

AJ Brown was a 2nd round pick. I'm not saying it would be easy to replace Lamb. But good WRs aren't always drafted in round 1. I really like Lamb. But I let him play out his 5 years and move on.
 

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AJ Brown was a 2nd round pick. I'm not saying it would be easy to replace Lamb. But good WRs aren't always drafted in round 1. I really like Lamb. But I let him play out his 5 years and move on.

He's the best wr on the team So we better replace him before we cut him. Its that mentality we need to have.

How many times ya thought someone was easily replaceacable but ya learned a lesson Js
 

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Most of our crucial losses have come down to our best players screwing up at the worst possible times. It's been hard to swallow.
all 3 of them drawing all the coverage too js

That's why guys like schultskowsi are wide open for the check down

They'll let ya throw to NON-FACTORS all day long

When you got 70 yards to go and it's 3rd and 10 and he catch it for 9 you're still 1 yard short!!! Ha ha ha now factor in that youre on the 11 yard line

Its 4th and 2 with the game on the line cuz you checked it down to a JAG!!!

Now we gotta kick a fg for the win and we fumble the snap

If a guy can't score you're always gonna come up a yard short

That hasn't ever worked in our favor



Y'all remember lmao
 
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I get that, buts it's kind of like having an amazing oline and then bringing in DMC to carry the load. Yes you will get production, but it won't be as dominant as 2016 Zeke.
that was like Zeke in the last playoff game.

We couldn't run so we got one dimensional

And we only completed 23 of 43 passes which would have been less without those 2 interceptions and extra possessions thanks to
Jimmy G lol

7 of those passes went to a NON-FACTOR in Schultz So that only left 16 completions to score

CeeDee only caught 1 pass the entire game. Coop caught 5 and scored a TD.

I think that had an impact on this board. Cooper wasn't great but that's how it is when you're running game gets stifled cuz your ufa te and schultz cant block or receive at that level he he he

All that magic greatness that was working well against those rest your starters eagles dried up when we got to SF and they were swallowing up Dak and Zeke with their 4 man front ha ha ha
 
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He is a top 10 WR1 but honestly, he is the top slot receiver in the league. Just wonder if he played where his talents dwell.

If your a top 10 receiver, you can play anywhere in my book. He just great across the middle.
 

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I get that, buts it's kind of like having an amazing oline and then bringing in DMC to carry the load. Yes you will get production, but it won't be as dominant as 2016 Zeke.

To me the run game is 70% the Oline. Im also a RB by committee guy. Didnt used to be. I spend the money on the line, not the RB. Plenty of good backs, they just need holes to run through. I think there are probably 20 backs in the NFL at the time that could have picked up 1500 yards behind that 2016 line with 350 carries. I dont agree that you need some all world back with a great line.
 

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AJ Brown was a 2nd round pick. I'm not saying it would be easy to replace Lamb. But good WRs aren't always drafted in round 1. I really like Lamb. But I let him play out his 5 years and move on.

I agree. RB's and WR's I dont think you need to get in the first round. Like the RB with the Oline, the WR needs a good QB and we have that. I would probably also target a top flight TE over a WR as they are cheaper.

If Cooper wants 27 million then I also would seriously think about moving on.
 

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To me the run game is 70% the Oline. Im also a RB by committee guy. Didnt used to be. I spend the money on the line, not the RB. Plenty of good backs, they just need holes to run through. I think there are probably 20 backs in the NFL at the time that could have picked up 1500 yards behind that 2016 line with 350 carries. I dont agree that you need some all world back with a great line.
I've always been a committee supporter but if you dont have one sometimes you can still run the ball or run better.

It doesn't mean ya have to overpay a guy by 12 million a year to do it either. We got gurley'ed by the hype just like Schultz lol

Zeke is playing possibly for his last shot to get a ring so he better hope Pollard is toting the rock between the 5 yard lines

Schultz is too so he better go sit on the bench on 4th and 10 when the game is on the line
Ouch!!!

I'd rather have Terrance Steele running routes near the goal line

At least hes 1 for 1 in the Red Zone Completions for tds Jk
 
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I think we should take a poll on if our tes can score a playoff TD this year.

The last one in 2017 broke the drought from 1995 by novachek I think

It took Witten 42 playoff receptions on 57 targets to get his only playoff TD in 15+ years

Novachek had 6 playoff tds on 60 receptions

And Cooper got his 2nd playoff td for us last year on 5 receptions. His other took 13 receptions. 2 of 18 lifetime

Ya see what stats I'm talking about.
 
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Every year we have this great debate of who is the best te, should we franchise tag him, line him up wide on 3rd and 20
How he lost his helmet and ran for 35 yards

But we start talking about te Tds in the playoffs and elimination games and this forum clam up like a fish outta water about our tes There's no material there to spin positively

A te that can't score at that playoff level is a last option as a receiver not a first, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th option. Tyler Higbee isn't leading his team in playoff receptions in that 11 personell

I know our tes can score. It's possible. But we could hit the lottery too. And 2 of them. Omg

Somebody has been saying that every year since 1995 and in 2017 we broke that 20+ year old drought against green bay but still lost lol

I was wrong back in 2017 and everybody else was right.

Ha ha ha
 

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Jared Cook (gb's te) won the game for them in 2017 on that immaculate sideline reception from Rogers to set up the winning walk off fg if I remember OUCHIE!!!
 

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He's the best wr on the team So we better replace him before we cut him. Its that mentality we need to have.

How many times ya thought someone was easily replaceacable but ya learned a lesson Js
Seems like we let players go...thinking we'll pick up somebody for sure. Then rarely actually do it. Or we have to pay dearly in the aftermath.
 
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