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i seriously believe our chemistry at WR is set now, with Glenn, Key and Crayton as the 3rd WR. we have Morgan and Copper waiting in the wings, if we were to sign Price where does he fit? i cant see him accepting a 3rd or 4th WR position, now if any of you can justify signing him to a healthy contract to play the 3rd or 4th WR please explain why.

lastly if we were to sign him and promote him as the #1 or #2 WR (which i dont think is gonna happen) then i could see the interest.
 

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CowboyChris said:
i seriously believe our chemistry at WR is set now, with Glenn, Key and Crayton as the 3rd WR. we have Morgan and Copper waiting in the wings, if we were to sign Price where does he fit? i cant see him accepting a 3rd or 4th WR position, now if any of you can justify signing him to a healthy contract to play the 3rd or 4th WR please explain why.

lastly if we were to sign him and promote him as the #1 or #2 WR (which i dont think is gonna happen) then i could see the interest.

I think that depending on Morgan is iffy at best. He made a couple of decent catches last night but on the whole, he has dropped more thenjust a few easy balls. I do believe that we will sustain at least one injury to the top three WRs. Law of averages says it's very possible. I would rather have an experienced WR who make us better on the roster and then insert Crayton in to fill in rather then rely on Morgan for that. JMO of course.
 

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so you guys really think Price is gonna pick us over the other destinations to play the 4th WR, and of course 4th WR money? not happening
 

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so you guys really think Price is gonna pick us over the other destinations to play the 4th WR, and of course 4th WR money? not happening

I don't know what the Cowboys are planing to offer and think the #3 Wr and #4 WR is a bunch of BS, I have seen teams rotate WR in and out of the game and Dallas could do exactly that with Price. Sorry I'm always for adding extra talent on this team.
 

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swap morgan for price and thats a pretty group that would instill confidence in most fans. Morgan just leaves me wondering sometimes and I dont want my season riding on his hands. Much prefer Price over Morgan. But still want Crayton to play and continue to develope.
 

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CowboyChris said:
so you guys really think Price is gonna pick us over the other destinations to play the 4th WR, and of course 4th WR money? not happening


Couple of things.

First, I agree with others. I don't think he would get paid 4th WR money. Secondly, I am not certain he would be the 4th WR. Lastly, this is really not so much about Price as it is Morgan. If we don't sign Price, then go sign someone else. I just don't think we can afford to depend on Morgan.
 

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The Cowboys wouldn't bother bringing Price in and giving him the 5 star treatment if they could't get him on the field.
 

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I have serious doubts about whether or not he will sign with us; if I were him I would not. The best thing for Price at this point would be to land in Philly where there is a shortage of quality WRs and there is a throwing QB. There is also a quality #1 WR on the other side in TO and it would be a good situation for Price to be the #2. Also, it is almost a given that he would get to meet his former team in the Playoffs and show them what he can do.

However, IF we were somehow able to sign him with him knowing that he would be playing behind our current top 3 WRs and accepting that. Then we would be in very good shape at WR and I would personally feel much better about our chances. I like our top 3 just fine but after that there is a serious talent drop off to "Stone Hands" Morgan, Copper and Mr. "What Position is This Again?" Crowder. If one of our top three guys were to go down I'd be a lot happier having Price come in than any of our backups.
 

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Doomsday101 said:
I don't know what the Cowboys are planing to offer and think the #3 Wr and #4 WR is a bunch of BS, I have seen teams rotate WR in and out of the game and Dallas could do exactly that with Price. Sorry I'm always for adding extra talent on this team.
JJ made a point of mentioning today that spreading the ball around enough was an issue..with the claim he doesn't want to see anything done that will keep the ball away from Crayton. He's the guy Bill is 'developing'.

But Bill ALWAYS always says forget the 1-2-3 thing when it comes to wide outs, and MEANS it. Too bad such a thing as a depth chart has to exist, tho there certainly are realities of how much any one guy can amass stat wise when you play a very conventional, limited two receiver set game, with ocassional slot use.

IF Sean and Bill are seriously looking at a TRUE four man rotation, with more creative formations and different personnel groupings a la NE and St Louis, then they've done a good job of hiding it this summer (which would be by design). Hard to reckon tho, Bill would go with that much experimentation while implementing a new D, and weaning Bledsoe in.

But who knows? Tuna finally backing away from the play calling table could be a sign his ball control O is gonna feature not just play action but a bit more razzle dazzle?

Also has said he'd like to 'rest' T some. Probably would also like to rest Key some. And not kill PC with overload. More personnel groupings would solve a lot of issues with 'age" and varying skills, and I frankly think this could work with Morgan too, and keep him happy, tho he's done little to deserve the consideration.

Were I in JJ and Bill's shoes, I'd be selling offensive diversity to Price. With Martz type personnel groupings on O. Running the same plays out of diff formations and whatnot. Sell it with more $ upfront and less in incentives. Sell it with a QB who can make multi sets work and who you are familiar with.

But it has to be true, that there really is a PLAN to rotate four guys consistently, and I don't know if that is so.

And of course, you always want to get Jason and Julius the ball, as well.

Multi talent success in a rec corps demands unselfishness from all of them. I think Bill can get it from KJ, I know he can from T, and PC is still a relative pipsqueak. It could work if this blasted 1-2-3-4 engrained tradition would just be updated to a 21st century mentality and game.

Gee, we could be the 1999 Rams. LOL
 

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CowboyChris said:
i seriously believe our chemistry at WR is set now, with Glenn, Key and Crayton as the 3rd WR. we have Morgan and Copper waiting in the wings, if we were to sign Price where does he fit? i cant see him accepting a 3rd or 4th WR position, now if any of you can justify signing him to a healthy contract to play the 3rd or 4th WR please explain why.
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I'll be sure to let BP and JJ know....I think they were leaning towards bringing him in but maybe not after they hear this... :D
 

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JJ made a point of mentioning today that spreading the ball around enough was an issue..with the claim he doesn't want to see anything done that will keep the ball away from Crayton. He's the guy Bill is 'developing'.

But Bill ALWAYS always says forget the 1-2-3 thing when it comes to wide outs, and MEANS it. Too bad such a thing as a depth chart has to exist, tho there certainly are realities of how much any one guy can amass stat wise when you play a very conventional, limited two receiver set game, with ocassional slot use.

IF Sean and Bill are seriously looking at a TRUE four man rotation, with more creative formations and different personnel groupings a la NE and St Louis, then they've done a good job of hiding it this summer (which would be by design). Hard to reckon tho, Bill would go with that much experimentation while implementing a new D, and weaning Bledsoe in.

But who knows? Tuna finally backing away from the play calling table could be a sign his ball control O is gonna feature not just play action but a bit more razzle dazzle?

Also has said he'd like to 'rest' T some. Probably would also like to rest Key some. And not kill PC with overload. More personnel groupings would solve a lot of issues with 'age" and varying skills, and I frankly think this could work with Morgan too, and keep him happy, tho he's done little to deserve the consideration.

Were I in JJ and Bill's shoes, I'd be selling offensive diversity to Price. With Martz type personnel groupings on O. Running the same plays out of diff formations and whatnot. Sell it with more $ upfront and less in incentives. Sell it with a QB who can make multi sets work and who you are familiar with.

But it has to be true, that there really is a PLAN to rotate four guys consistently, and I don't know if that is so.

And of course, you always want to get Jason and Julius the ball, as well.

Multi talent success in a rec corps demands unselfishness from all of them. I think Bill can get it from KJ, I know he can from T, and PC is still a relative pipsqueak. It could work if this blasted 1-2-3-4 engrained tradition would just be updated to a 21st century mentality and game.

Gee, we could be the 1999 Rams. LOL

I'm not expecting 4 WR set but yes I think you can rotate guys in and out of the game keeping the WR freash not to mention any injury and we drop off quite a bit. I'll always be in favor of bringing in talented players and if Dallas and Price can agree on a contract I'll be more than happy to have him on this team. I understand any contract is a 2 way street and I want Price to do what he feels is best for himself and I expect the Cowboys to do the same.
 

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How often does anyone go four wide?

And I wouldn't expect it under Parcells more than a few times a year. :)

But the 'solution' for a receiving corps that lack a true go-to, 'elite' #1, is the NE approach. That's how you optimize your set of four or five complementary receivers.

We shall see. This is definitely 'dream day'.
 

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LaTunaNostra said:
How often does anyone go four wide?

And I wouldn't expect it under Parcells more than a few times a year. :)

But the 'solution' for a receiving corps that lack a true go-to, 'elite' #1, is the NE approach. That's how you optimize your set of four or five complementary receivers.

We shall see. This is definitely 'dream day'.

If your the Rams quite a bit, that's why I said I don't expect Dallas to run 4 WR unless you playing from way behind late in a game. I do see a means of getting ample use out of a guy like Price if he does sign with Dallas. I just know that 16 week season can take a toll on players and if you get a chance to upgrade and add a quality player then you try and do it.
 

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LaTunaNostra said:
How often does anyone go four wide?

And I wouldn't expect it under Parcells more than a few times a year. :)

But the 'solution' for a receiving corps that lack a true go-to, 'elite' #1, is the NE approach. That's how you optimize your set of four or five complementary receivers.

We shall see. This is definitely 'dream day'.

Nice to hear that you are this open minded now, lol. First you hated Price, now you are talking about changing our system to make him come here!! :laugh2:

I'm teasing you, but I love the idea. I used to play WR back in the day, and people don't realize how much tired and winded you get, cause you are basically running wind sprints all game long. If it is fine to rotate defensive lineman, I see nothing wrong with rotating WRs.

The rotation does keep them fresh, which improves their route running and concetration. I'm all for it, now we just need to just call Bill, lol.
 

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CowboyChris said:
i seriously believe our chemistry at WR is set now, with Glenn, Key and Crayton as the 3rd WR. we have Morgan and Copper waiting in the wings, if we were to sign Price where does he fit? i cant see him accepting a 3rd or 4th WR position, now if any of you can justify signing him to a healthy contract to play the 3rd or 4th WR please explain why.

lastly if we were to sign him and promote him as the #1 or #2 WR (which i dont think is gonna happen) then i could see the interest.

Exactly. I think Peerless Price would be 2005's Eddie George. He'd throw the chemistry off without adding any production. Let's let Crayton develop.
 

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Nice to hear that you are this open minded now, lol. First you hated Price, now you are talking about changing our system to make him come here!! :laugh2:

I'm teasing you, but I love the idea. I used to play WR back in the day, and people don't realize how much tired and winded you get, cause you are basically running wind sprints all game long. If it is fine to rotate defensive lineman, I see nothing wrong with rotating WRs.

The rotation does keep them fresh, which improves their route running and concetration. I'm all for it, now we just need to just call Bill, lol.
LOL

My knee jerk reaction was to the first blanket rationale here for signing him.

Terry is gonna get hurt.

Now I'm thinking this clown may help extend his career. :D
 

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I'll say it again, Price is rated just one spot lower than Glenn in the top 80 players at WR in the Sports Illustrated Fantasy League mag on your newstands now, he's as good as as Glenn at least on paper, so it would be like adding #2 quality to our wr corps, this deal will happen, Bill wants him worse than they are trying to appear, I mean comeon when was the lst time old Jerrah invited someone up to the suite and he went elsewhere. You might have not noticed but we got something good going on here, we will make the playoffs as a wild card, hey if TO gets hurt who knows. If we sign this guy and one or two of oldsters at wr goes down it will look like as big a steal as Chris Canty in the fourth round. You cannot have enough depth at WR, they go down too much...
 
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