CFZ Changing the System

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I was watching a documentary on Michael Jordan, who was a prolific scorer from 1984-1990. But the knock on Michael was he could put up great stats, but couldn’t win in the playoffs. Along comes coach Phil Jackson and he changed the “system” from pick and roll, plus isolation offense to the triangle offense that won Phil Jackson 9 rings and gave him three 3-peat championship teams, two with Jordan and Pippen in Chicago, and another with Shaq and Kobe in Los Angeles. Jackson won 9 championships in 13 seasons, making his triangle system perhaps the best in NBA history.

In the NFL, by far the most successful system for winning championships has included the concepts of the West Coast offense, a system of which Mike McCarthy is a disciple, and with which he himself has already won a championship. The Jones family initially prohibited McCarthy from implementing the WCO in Dallas, which never in the long 63 season history of the team, has incorporated the Weat Coast Offense. The Jones family have been dedicated to the Air Coryell type system that won them 3 championships in the mid 1990’s.

But with the firing of Kellen Moore, that has changed. The implementation of the Weat Coast offense style is not only going to affect Dak Prescott. It will change the offense for the entire team. Receiver routes will change, running back assignments will change, and blocking assignments will change (a big reason Schoonmaker was the 2nd round pick.)

The is no guarantee this will work. But we all know that the system that Garrett and then Moore in Dallas since 2007 hasn’t worked out either. But perhaps a system change can do for the Cowboys what it did for the 90’s Bulls, and the 2000’s Lakers. Perhaps implementing the West Coast offense concepts into to Cowboys offense can change them from a team that piles up great offensive stats (like both Romo and Dak have had at QB, Murray and Elliott have had at RB, Dez, Amari and CeeDee have had at WR, and Witten at TE) into a team prepared to win championships instead.

Perhaps…

It’s worth a shot, anyway.
 

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There is just way too much emphasis put on WCO by Cowboys fans. Every offense uses elements of the WCO. We'll hardly notice a difference in play design.

I think the only real difference we'll see is that there is going to be less of an emphasis on the run game, especially on early downs.
 

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There is just way too much emphasis put on WCO by Cowboys fans. Every offense uses elements of the WCO. We'll hardly notice a difference in play design.

I think the only real difference we'll see is that there is going to be less of an emphasis on the run game, especially on early downs.

Plus this offense could never run a proper screen. That should be a huge difference IF they can execute it.
 

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I was watching a documentary on Michael Jordan, who was a prolific scorer from 1984-1990. But the knock on Michael was he could put up great stats, but couldn’t win in the playoffs. Along comes coach Phil Jackson and he changed the “system” from pick and roll, plus isolation offense to the triangle offense that won Phil Jackson 9 rings and gave him three 3-peat championship teams, two with Jordan and Pippen in Chicago, and another with Shaq and Kobe in Los Angeles. Jackson won 9 championships in 13 seasons, making his triangle system perhaps the best in NBA history.

In the NFL, by far the most successful system for winning championships has included the concepts of the West Coast offense, a system of which Mike McCarthy is a disciple, and with which he himself has already won a championship. The Jones family initially prohibited McCarthy from implementing the WCO in Dallas, which never in the long 63 season history of the team, has incorporated the Weat Coast Offense. The Jones family have been dedicated to the Air Coryell type system that won them 3 championships in the mid 1990’s.

But with the firing of Kellen Moore, that has changed. The implementation of the Weat Coast offense style is not only going to affect Dak Prescott. It will change the offense for the entire team. Receiver routes will change, running back assignments will change, and blocking assignments will change (a big reason Schoonmaker was the 2nd round pick.)

The is no guarantee this will work. But we all know that the system that Garrett and then Moore in Dallas since 2007 hasn’t worked out either. But perhaps a system change can do for the Cowboys what it did for the 90’s Bulls, and the 2000’s Lakers. Perhaps implementing the West Coast offense concepts into to Cowboys offense can change them from a team that piles up great offensive stats (like both Romo and Dak have had at QB, Murray and Elliott have had at RB, Dez, Amari and CeeDee have had at WR, and Witten at TE) into a team prepared to win championships instead.

Perhaps…

It’s worth a shot, anyway.
This is an excellent analysis of what could be developing in Big D.

In the past 3 seasons. Big Mac has been managing a system he mostly inherited. He has certainly put some of his personal approaches to situational football, raised expectations for every player and had a positive impact on the overall culture of this team. But I believe in the 2023 season we are going to see Mike McCarthy in the way he is more comfortable from an offensive standpoint.

As Dallas fans well know, the main problem with the Cowboys of recent years has not been in the regular season- it’s the playoffs. For whatever reason, this team has not had the requisite mental and physical toughness to compete with teams who do have those very qualities.

Whether or not McCarthy’s offensive tweaks and various changes will be an infusion of playoff success only time will tell.
 

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Plus this offense could never run a proper screen. That should be a huge difference IF they can execute it.
Lol, one of the world's greatest mysteries.

A lot of that is dictated by down and distance though - you can't run screens on obvious passing downs very often, but they're very effective as an extension, or alternative, to your running game.
 

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Lol, one of the world's greatest mysteries.

A lot of that is dictated by down and distance though - you can't run screens on obvious passing downs very often, but they're very effective as an extension, or alternative, to your running game.


The crazy part is down and distance didn't seem to matter with the never ending WR screens. That's where I think we'll see the difference. MM should have a better handle on proper play calling considering the situation on the field. Plus if they're going to get Deuce involved.. that screen would be very nice. Pollard also.
 
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Tbh I don't know exactly what the WCO is but I feel like that's what Romo played after Parcells. He threw deep a lot with T.O. but then seemed to dink and dump for the majority of his career. Irked the heck out of me cause I always thought of him as a gunslinger in his natural state.
 

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I was watching a documentary on Michael Jordan, who was a prolific scorer from 1984-1990. But the knock on Michael was he could put up great stats, but couldn’t win in the playoffs. Along comes coach Phil Jackson and he changed the “system” from pick and roll, plus isolation offense to the triangle offense that won Phil Jackson 9 rings and gave him three 3-peat championship teams, two with Jordan and Pippen in Chicago, and another with Shaq and Kobe in Los Angeles. Jackson won 9 championships in 13 seasons, making his triangle system perhaps the best in NBA history.

In the NFL, by far the most successful system for winning championships has included the concepts of the West Coast offense, a system of which Mike McCarthy is a disciple, and with which he himself has already won a championship. The Jones family initially prohibited McCarthy from implementing the WCO in Dallas, which never in the long 63 season history of the team, has incorporated the Weat Coast Offense. The Jones family have been dedicated to the Air Coryell type system that won them 3 championships in the mid 1990’s.

But with the firing of Kellen Moore, that has changed. The implementation of the Weat Coast offense style is not only going to affect Dak Prescott. It will change the offense for the entire team. Receiver routes will change, running back assignments will change, and blocking assignments will change (a big reason Schoonmaker was the 2nd round pick.)

The is no guarantee this will work. But we all know that the system that Garrett and then Moore in Dallas since 2007 hasn’t worked out either. But perhaps a system change can do for the Cowboys what it did for the 90’s Bulls, and the 2000’s Lakers. Perhaps implementing the West Coast offense concepts into to Cowboys offense can change them from a team that piles up great offensive stats (like both Romo and Dak have had at QB, Murray and Elliott have had at RB, Dez, Amari and CeeDee have had at WR, and Witten at TE) into a team prepared to win championships instead.

Perhaps…

It’s worth a shot, anyway.
Heads up, MM is not running a WCO in Dallas, it is the TCO or GCO.
 

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They're not changing the O completely but there should still be additions that weren't there before.
I suspect most of the changes will be in the run game. That and reducing turnovers. A lot of this "change" stuff is getting overblown.
 

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It will for sure throw a wrinkle in the way opposing teams play us. No longer will they laugh and say we knew what they were going to do. We just had to stop it. We relied on a good O-Line to push people around and run the ball. Then play action off of it. It worked until we abandoned the run. We will have some growing pains but will be hopefully better off. Heck even we incorporate some west coast in our Offense we will be better off.
 

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I was watching a documentary on Michael Jordan, who was a prolific scorer from 1984-1990. But the knock on Michael was he could put up great stats, but couldn’t win in the playoffs. Along comes coach Phil Jackson and he changed the “system” from pick and roll, plus isolation offense to the triangle offense that won Phil Jackson 9 rings and gave him three 3-peat championship teams, two with Jordan and Pippen in Chicago, and another with Shaq and Kobe in Los Angeles. Jackson won 9 championships in 13 seasons, making his triangle system perhaps the best in NBA history.

In the NFL, by far the most successful system for winning championships has included the concepts of the West Coast offense, a system of which Mike McCarthy is a disciple, and with which he himself has already won a championship. The Jones family initially prohibited McCarthy from implementing the WCO in Dallas, which never in the long 63 season history of the team, has incorporated the Weat Coast Offense. The Jones family have been dedicated to the Air Coryell type system that won them 3 championships in the mid 1990’s.

But with the firing of Kellen Moore, that has changed. The implementation of the Weat Coast offense style is not only going to affect Dak Prescott. It will change the offense for the entire team. Receiver routes will change, running back assignments will change, and blocking assignments will change (a big reason Schoonmaker was the 2nd round pick.)

The is no guarantee this will work. But we all know that the system that Garrett and then Moore in Dallas since 2007 hasn’t worked out either. But perhaps a system change can do for the Cowboys what it did for the 90’s Bulls, and the 2000’s Lakers. Perhaps implementing the West Coast offense concepts into to Cowboys offense can change them from a team that piles up great offensive stats (like both Romo and Dak have had at QB, Murray and Elliott have had at RB, Dez, Amari and CeeDee have had at WR, and Witten at TE) into a team prepared to win championships instead.

Perhaps…

It’s worth a shot, anyway.
The quality of the receivers group has greatly improved as well.
 

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If the primary onfield decision maker continues as the starter and his same deficiencies of poor at reading defenses, slow processing and reacting in real time remain...
The success rate will remain the same regardless of playcaller or offensive system.

You can't coach a a poor decisionmaking mechanism out of a 7 year veteran QB because his playcaller changed. His brain is still the same poor real time decision making entity as it ever was and the results will be no different.

The real change for me will be to see if the 2 most important positions of HC and QB will offer a gameday advantage over their opponent week in and week out for the whole year. Or will it still be offensive failure based on poor execution and NOT on what play was called.
 

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