CFZ Changing the System

[America's Cowboy]

The OP here stated that he placed Dak in the upper 25% which would be top 1/4 of the league . Mathematically that would be top 8.

I don’t have a problem with placing him close to top 10. He’s no doubt in top half and probably closer to top 10 than top half.

But top 5 would put him in this category .
Mahomes, Rodgers, Allen and Burrows which I’m not prepared to do. But I can see you believing that .

Rodgers isn't even top 5, so you already lost that argument.

 

[America's Cowboy]

All right, is this 2.5 seconds?

reidhanson

Shhh, don't be showing such pics of evidence. Some folks can't handle the facts.

 

[blueblood70]

This post is complete and utter non sense. The offense will barley change next year. And now Mccarthy is some West Coast guru?

You spelled your name wrong it's TROLL I just wanted to make sure you figured out that typo before you make too many more posts past 55 lol

 

[CCBoy]

Sometimes the "system" can only do so much....you need the players who can actually run it. Dak is not an accurate passer even on short passes and the receiver corps does not run precise and sharp routes. Amari was the only one who used to run like that....Both would need to improve drastically, Dak needs to hit the receivers in stride and on the move, and the receivers need to make great fakes, sharp cuts and get separation quickly.

So call it, WCO, GCO, TCO, BO, BYOB...whatever, ...make the adjustments and LFG.

Football to the basics...get 'er done!

 

[blueblood70]

All right, is this 2.5 seconds?

reidhanson

right that's what it looked like a lot last year that's why the offensive line is being overrated in the bigger games against the better defenses they were in the bottom 10 in pass rush win rate Prescott was under pressure they weren't opening holes for the running backs against the 49ers in the last two games in the playoffs no run game they can't block those dudes not long enough

 

[America's Cowboy]

right that's what it looked like a lot last year that's why the offensive line is being overrated in the bigger games against the better defenses they were in the bottom 10 in pass rush win rate Prescott was under pressure they weren't opening holes for the running backs against the 49ers in the last two games in the playoffs no run game they can't block those dudes not long enough

Shhh, the haters can't handle such facts, especially when pictures and videos prove as much. We need to be conscious of their brittle feelings.

 

[America's Cowboy]

I can't find this quote anywhere but on this unverified Twitter account.

You need to check your sources, AC.

I highly doubt Hurts said this, but if you have a link to the direct quote by all means post it.

Bleacher Report

 

[Diehardblues]

Rodgers isn't even top 5, so you already lost that argument.

So, you’re ready to put Dak up there with Mahomes, Burrows and Allen?

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Bleacher Report

That tells me nothing. I've googled and can't find it anywhere.

I need a link, until then this is just fake news from an unverified twitter account.

Hurts should take legal action.

 

[CCBoy]

That tells me nothing. I've googled and can't find it anywhere.

I need a link, until then this is just fake news from an unverified twitter account.

Hurts should take legal action.

C'mon...the guy isn't lying so, go to Bleacher and look it up by topic of articles. Don't make a problem instead. To not trust and place a belief is your deal...but accusing instead a negative proof, is another matter. You are no where authorized to carry past belief with accusing instead.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

C'mon...the guy isn't lying so, go to Bleacher and look it up by topic of articles. Don't make a problem instead. To not trust and place a belief is your deal...but accusing instead a negative proof, is another matter. You are no where authorized to carry past belief with accusing instead.

I welcome you to find this elusive article.

I've searched and can't find it.

If someone, anyone, can post a legitimate source of this quote then I will apologize.

 

[America's Cowboy]

So, you’re ready to put Dak up there with Mahomes, Burrows and Allen?

Dak is every bit as good as Josh Allen. Very similar stats. Burrow and Mahomes are the 2 best QBs in the league.

Heck, Dak was on pace to pass for 6k passing yards and averaging 370+ passing yards/game in 2020. He likely would have shattered Peyton Manning's single season passing record of 5,400 yards.

 

[Diehardblues]

Dak is every bit as good as Josh Allen. Very similar stats. Burrow and Mahomes are the 2 best QBs in the league.

Heck, Dak was on pace to pass for 6k passing yards and averaging 370+ passing yards/game in 2020. He likely would have shattered Peyton Manning's single season passing record of 5,400 yards.

Sorry but I can’t place Prescott that high regardless his stats . Just don’t see him with the same type passing skills and abilities. But it at least helps me understand your view.

 

[CCBoy]

I welcome you to find this elusive article.

I've searched and can't find it.

If someone, anyone, can post a legitimate source of this quote then I will apologize.

Maybe this helps on facts:

ELWAY AND PRESCOTT HAVE SIMILAR PRODUCTION THRU 7 SEASONS​

Even though Dak practically missed the entire 2020 season, he still matched Elway's production early in his career.

To date, Prescott has thrown for 24,943 passing yards and 166 touchdowns.

Elway's first seven seasons were nothing to sleep on, accounting for 21,195 yards and 120 touchdowns.

https://insidethestar.com/should-i-dare-compare-dak-prescott-to-this-hall-of-fame-quarterback/

As to supporting Prescott by comment by Hurts, I read that comment as well...Bleacher report gave me no clue today, although.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I was watching a documentary on Michael Jordan, who was a prolific scorer from 1984-1990. But the knock on Michael was he could put up great stats, but couldn’t win in the playoffs. Along comes coach Phil Jackson and he changed the “system” from pick and roll, plus isolation offense to the triangle offense that won Phil Jackson 9 rings and gave him three 3-peat championship teams, two with Jordan and Pippen in Chicago, and another with Shaq and Kobe in Los Angeles. Jackson won 9 championships in 13 seasons, making his triangle system perhaps the best in NBA history.

In the NFL, by far the most successful system for winning championships has included the concepts of the West Coast offense, a system of which Mike McCarthy is a disciple, and with which he himself has already won a championship. The Jones family initially prohibited McCarthy from implementing the WCO in Dallas, which never in the long 63 season history of the team, has incorporated the Weat Coast Offense. The Jones family have been dedicated to the Air Coryell type system that won them 3 championships in the mid 1990’s.

But with the firing of Kellen Moore, that has changed. The implementation of the Weat Coast offense style is not only going to affect Dak Prescott. It will change the offense for the entire team. Receiver routes will change, running back assignments will change, and blocking assignments will change (a big reason Schoonmaker was the 2nd round pick.)

The is no guarantee this will work. But we all know that the system that Garrett and then Moore in Dallas since 2007 hasn’t worked out either. But perhaps a system change can do for the Cowboys what it did for the 90’s Bulls, and the 2000’s Lakers. Perhaps implementing the West Coast offense concepts into to Cowboys offense can change them from a team that piles up great offensive stats (like both Romo and Dak have had at QB, Murray and Elliott have had at RB, Dez, Amari and CeeDee have had at WR, and Witten at TE) into a team prepared to win championships instead.

Perhaps…

It’s worth a shot, anyway.

Usually takes a team 2 or 3 years to fully convert and fornplayers to understand the little nuances of a system. This is the first transition year and my expectations are that we will see elements of WCO incorporated, see more as year goes along and more next year. We are going to keep a lot of the old offense except I expect to see better route combinations which is something Moore struggled with.

 

[CouchCoach]

All of this stat usage to sell Prescott doesn't matter because until he proves he can win the big games when the chips are all in, he's just a good, not great, QB.

That's what separates the great ones. They win the big games. Romo didn't do it and so far, Prescott hasn't done it.

Probably isn't fair because he's just one player but he's the only player on the team that carries the W-L record with him.

 

[shabazz]

As long as we're talking NBA I would implement a lot more pick plays. Brady made a killing off them during his career - why survey the field when you know the one guy that's going to be open because his defender has been redirected.

I’d love to run pick plays but it’s hard to get away with it with a star on our helmets

I dont ever discount the effects the zebras have on us when trying to run the same plays our opponents get away with.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Maybe this helps on facts:

ELWAY AND PRESCOTT HAVE SIMILAR PRODUCTION THRU 7 SEASONS​

Even though Dak practically missed the entire 2020 season, he still matched Elway's production early in his career.

To date, Prescott has thrown for 24,943 passing yards and 166 touchdowns.

Elway's first seven seasons were nothing to sleep on, accounting for 21,195 yards and 120 touchdowns.

https://insidethestar.com/should-i-dare-compare-dak-prescott-to-this-hall-of-fame-quarterback/

As to supporting Prescott by comment by Hurts, I read that comment as well...Bleacher report gave me no clue today, although.

No.

It doesn't help.

I want to see the quote from a legit source where Hurts said that about Dak.

Are we cool with posting complete falsehoods here as long as it supports your guy? As I said, Hurts should take legal action.

 

[Vtwin]

Maybe this helps on facts:

ELWAY AND PRESCOTT HAVE SIMILAR PRODUCTION THRU 7 SEASONS​

Even though Dak practically missed the entire 2020 season, he still matched Elway's production early in his career.

To date, Prescott has thrown for 24,943 passing yards and 166 touchdowns.

Elway's first seven seasons were nothing to sleep on, accounting for 21,195 yards and 120 touchdowns.

https://insidethestar.com/should-i-dare-compare-dak-prescott-to-this-hall-of-fame-quarterback/

As to supporting Prescott by comment by Hurts, I read that comment as well...Bleacher report gave me no clue today, although.

To be fair. Elway was putting up those numbers in a time when safeties could blow the cleats off receivers, (no defenseless ball carrier rules) and pass rushers could follow through on the tackle and punish QBs if they were within a step when the ball was released. You just can't compare the different eras.

Love Dak or hate him, it's not even debatable that Dak is no John Elway. Not even close.

 

[Vtwin]

All of this stat usage to sell Prescott doesn't matter because until he proves he can win the big games when the chips are all in, he's just a good, not great, QB.

That's what separates the great ones. They win the big games. Romo didn't do it and so far, Prescott hasn't done it.

Probably isn't fair because he's just one player but he's the only player on the team that carries the W-L record with him.

Exactly. Stats are nice but the greats seperate themselves from the good by making those one or two plays when they are needed the most and against the odds.