Chargers approached about No. 3 pick trade

[robjay04]

The Chargers are assigned the No. 3 overall draft pick on April 28.

Whether or not they exercise that pick remains to be seen.

General Manager Tom Telesco, coach Mike McCoy and president of football operations John Spanos are among the Chargers officials in Florida this week for the NFL owner meetings. There, representatives from multiple teams have approached the Chargers with interest in acquiring their No. 3 selection, Telesco said Tuesday. A trade down would afford the team extra draft picks to address its roster needs.

What happens next is unclear.

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2016/mar/22/chargers-2016-nfl-draft-trade/

This is something to keep an eye on, especially if we are bluffing and really do want a QB at 4.

 

[BlueNSilver88]

So if Tenn takes Tunsil (as many predict they will), and Cleveland goes Wentz/Goff, Chargers trade their pick to a team who takes the other of Wentz/Goff, in that scenario then the pick should be Ramsey.

Or, say Tenn for some reason takes Ramsey at #1, Dallas then has the option of Tunsil/Bosa at #4, or a trade down with someone who might covet Tunsil. Either way we are sitting quite pretty at #4. Would you be opposed to the idea of Dallas adding another young Blue chip to that O line?

Additionally, say the team who trades with the Chargers ends up picking Ramsey at #3, then we could get either Bosa or the other QB at #4.

 

[tyke1doe]

This really isn't big news. Teams are always feeling out teams above them about the possibility of a trade up. If Tunsil drops, there are teams who may want him. If Ramsey drops, there are teams who may want to move up for him. And, of course, the quarterbacks.

I don't think a team will jump the Cowboys for Ezekiel Elliott because of the value placed on running back, but who knows.

The top players on this board who teams may want are ... Tunsil, Wentz, Goff and Ramsey.

We're at #4. We're going to get one of those guys, if we want them. So I don't think we need to be panicked by a possible trade up by a team who wants the #3 pick.

 

[robjay04]

So if Tenn takes Tunsil (as many predict they will), and Cleveland goes Wentz/Goff, Chargers trade their pick to a team who takes the other of Wentz/Goff, in that scenario then the pick should be Ramsey.

Or, say Tenn for some reason takes Ramsey at #1, Dallas then has the option of Tunsil/Bosa at #4, or a trade down with someone who might covet Tunsil. Either way we are sitting quite pretty at #4. Would you be opposed to the idea of Dallas adding another young Blue chip to that O line?

Opposed? No but I think we could do better and chances are already low we are able to retain Collins, Martin and Fred, no chance we have 5 OL locked in making the best at their position 5 years from now.

I do know if Jerry is bluffing and wants a QB, he will get his guy even if it takes some wheeling and dealing. Maybe they can let the old Jerry come out and play for a little while.

 

[Killerinstinct]

So if Tenn takes Tunsil (as many predict they will), and Cleveland goes Wentz/Goff, Chargers trade their pick to a team who takes the other of Wentz/Goff, in that scenario then the pick should be Ramsey.

Or, say Tenn for some reason takes Ramsey at #1, Dallas then has the option of Tunsil/Bosa at #4, or a trade down with someone who might covet Tunsil. Either way we are sitting quite pretty at #4. Would you be opposed to the idea of Dallas adding another young Blue chip to that O line?

Additionally, say the team who trades with the Chargers ends up picking Ramsey at #3, then we could get either Bosa or the other QB at #4.

I see it the way you do. If Tunsil is there at 4 some teams that thought he was out of reach will be willing to pay to trade up.

 

[robjay04]

We're at #4. We're going to get one of those guys, if we want them. So I don't think we need to be panicked by a possible trade up by a team who wants the #3 pick.

You only panic if you are set on taking a QB. I am personally starting to believe Dallas may be leaning that direction considering how free agency has went so far. We have shown no real interest in any quarterbacks. Colt McCoy was hanging out with Cowboys players a week before FA, if we pushed, we could've got him. Moore signed for nothing...we could've got him.

 

[BlueNSilver88]

You only panic if you are set on taking a QB. I am personally starting to believe Dallas may be leaning that direction considering how free agency has went so far. We have shown no real interest in any quarterbacks. Colt McCoy was hanging out with Cowboys players a week before FA, if we pushed, we could've got him. Moore signed for nothing...we could've got him.

Or they are really not bluffing (or totally bluffing - who knows!) about Kellen Moore being 'ok' as our #2. Not saying I think he is good enough to be our #2, but that might be their mentality. Just look at Weeden & Cassell and how long they had him as our #2

 

[tyke1doe]

You only panic if you are set on taking a QB. I am personally starting to believe Dallas may be leaning that direction considering how free agency has went so far. We have shown no real interest in any quarterbacks. Colt McCoy was hanging out with Cowboys players a week before FA, if we pushed, we could've got him. Moore signed for nothing...we could've got him.

I think one of the quarterbacks will be there. Can you recall a draft where two teams at the top of the draft traded down to let another team take the top two quarterbacks?

I can't.

I can see a trade up for one of the quarterbacks, but not both.

 

[BlueNSilver88]

I think one of the quarterbacks will be there. Can you recall a draft where two teams at the top of the draft traded down to let another team take the top two quarterbacks?

I can't.

I can see a trade up for one of the quarterbacks, but not both.

Well, if Cleveland takes a QB at #2, and a team trades up to #3 and takes the other QB, they wont both be there lol

 

[robjay04]

Or they are really not bluffing (or totally bluffing - who knows!) about Kellen Moore being 'ok' as our #2. Not saying I think he is good enough to be our #2, but that might be their mentality. Just look at Weeden & Cassell and how long they had him as our #2

I agree. If you are really not bluffing about a QB at 4, you let the board fall to you but if you are intent with taking Wentz or Goff then it is something to follow. If the Chargers do make a deal to trade down, the only plausible scenario to get your QB is to trade up to number 1.

A lot can still change, if Cleveland signs RGIII to a decent amount, they may be more inclined to take another position besides QB. They definitely need help at virtually every position.

 

[BlueNSilver88]

I agree. If you are really not bluffing about a QB at 4, you let the board fall to you but if you are intent with taking Wentz or Goff then it is something to follow. If the Chargers do make a deal to trade down, the only plausible scenario to get your QB is to trade up to number 1.

A lot can still change, if Cleveland signs RGIII to a decent amount, they may be more inclined to take another position besides QB. They definitely need help at virtually every position.

Tenn already said it would take a 'kings ransom' to trade up for #1, but then again we would be trading from #4 so it might not take as much. Still, I don't think I would be down to trade away quality picks just to take a QB when 'I' personally would be happy with one of the other blue chip non QB & keeping assets like the #34 overall pick


EDIT: Unless the FO sees the QB as the next "Peyton Manning" or etc, then yeah i can get down with that, even if it would bust, you cant question the decision at the time to try and get the new heir for romo

 

[tyke1doe]

Well, if Cleveland takes a QB at #2, and a team trades up to #3 and takes the other QB, they wont both be there lol

True. But I'm hearing that RGIII may be in play for Cleveland. If the Browns sign, RGIII, I doubt they take a quarterback at #2.

 

[BlueNSilver88]

True. But I'm hearing that RGIII may be in play for Cleveland. If the Browns sign, RGIII, I doubt they take a quarterback at #2.

Personally, if I was Cleveland, even if I signed RG3 that wouldn't preclude me from taking a QB at #2 overall. RG3 would be more like 'insurance'

Lol Insurance and RG3.

 

[robjay04]

Tenn already said it would take a 'kings ransom' to trade up for #1, but then again we would be trading from #4 so it might not take as much. Still, I don't think I would be down to trade away quality picks just to take a QB when 'I' personally would be happy with one of the other blue chip non QB & keeping assets like the #34 overall pick

I agree, it all comes down to how the team feels.

If they are under the same impression that many of us are that it may be 20 years before we pick this high again...it is something to consider. You may never have this good of a chance to land a franchise QB and everything should be on the table if teams start moving around in front of you.

If they really believe Romo plays for 5 years and Kellen Moore is a capable backup then I would assume Bosa. Tunsil or Ramsey is the pick regardless of who is there at 4.

 

[BlueNSilver88]

I agree, it all comes down to how the team feels.

If they are under the same impression that many of us are that it may be 20 years before we pick this high again...it is something to consider. You may never have this good of a chance to land a franchise QB and everything should be on the table if teams start moving around in front of you.

If they really believe Romo plays for 5 years and Kellen Moore is a capable backup then I would assume Bosa. Tunsil or Ramsey is the pick regardless of who is there at 4.

It all depends on how strong the team feels the QB prospects are. I personally would rather take Goff than Wentz if we did trade up...but If the FO strongly feels that either is 'their guy' & a must have..then i cant be mad

 

[tyke1doe]

I refuse to believe that Jerry and Company think Romo can play for five more years - not at the peak of his game.

However, I don't think Jerry is willing to let Romo go in two years. Two years is the maximum time you can let Wentz or Goff sit if you REALLY believe they are the future of your franchise.

It's almost imperative that you see what they can do in their third year. And I don't think you can keep Romo around as a mentor when you're transitioning to the future UNLESS Romo wins a Super Bowl and takes more of a "Kurt Warner" role to a young quarterback.

If Romo doesn't win a Super Bowl with the Cowboys, no way he goes quietly into the night.

 

[robjay04]

Personally, if I was Cleveland, even if I signed RG3 that wouldn't preclude me from taking a QB at #2 overall. RG3 would be more like 'insurance'

Lol Insurance and RG3.

This is Cleveland we are talking about.

We should be able to tell a lot by the contract though. If they give RGIII any type of significant guaranteed money, they might as well pass on QB and fill a hole at another one of the many positions they could upgrade.

 

[BlueNSilver88]

This is Cleveland we are talking about.

We should be able to tell a lot by the contract though. If they give RGIII any type of significant guaranteed money, they might as well pass on QB and fill a hole at another one of the many positions they could upgrade.

IF that does make them pass on a QB, what would be Cleveland's most likely draft choice? Bosa?

 

[robjay04]

IF that does make them pass on a QB, what would be Cleveland's most likely draft choice? Bosa?

Who knows with that team, they could use help at virtually every position.

Whenever you feel irritated by the direction of this team, just think how Cleveland fans must feel.

 

[tyke1doe]

IF that does make them pass on a QB, what would be Cleveland's most likely draft choice? Bosa?

Pretty please?!?!