Chargers Shopping Receiver Osgood

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Chargers receiver Kassim Osgood finally is getting what he wanted — a trade.
Unfortunately, the Chargers have yet to find any takers.
G.M. A.J. Smith said Friday, possibly via his best impersonation of Phil Hartman impersonating Ed McMahon, that Osgood has been on the block for three weeks.
You would be correct, sir,” Smith told the San Diego Union-Tribune.
The Chargers are looking for a late-round pick for Osgood, a two-time Pro Bowler based on his special-teams skill, who has been frustrated by the fact that the team won’t use him more on offense.
Smith refused to elaborate on the reasons for the decision to try to move Osgood.
“I’ve answered your question and I don’t have anything more to add,” Smith said. “If there are any developments regarding Kassim and a trade we’ll let you know immediately.”
Osgood has wanted out for a year. He skipped offseason workouts in 2008, and he criticized coach Norv Turner during the low point of a season that surprisingly ended with a division title and a playoff win.
Per the Union-Tribune, all teams were notified of Osgood’s availability on February 28.
Osgood is under contract through 2009.

I think we should take a look at this!
 

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If all it cost was a sixth/seventh, it might not be a bad idea. If all he did was come in to compete for the slot that Hurd currently occupies, it would be worth it. He is a known commodity as a special teams coverage player and would probably be an improvement over Hurd. All that would need to be evaluated is if he could be a better receiver.
 

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Alexander;2697623 said:
If all it cost was a sixth/seventh, it might not be a bad idea. If all he did was come in to compete for the slot that Hurd currently occupies, it would be worth it. He is a known commodity as a special teams coverage player and would probably be an improvement over Hurd. All that would need to be evaluated is if he could be a better receiver.

got to agree, theres no need for 11 draft picks so if one of them can be traded for someone you know exactly what you're getting i don't see that being a bad thing.
 

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daschoo;2697640 said:
got to agree, theres no need for 11 draft picks

I disagree here.

I want us to use every draft pick we have, not dump them indiscriminately just because we don't believe eleven players can make this team. The more players we have the better chances we will have to field a better team.

We aren't that good and we need more competition for roster spots, not less. Eliminating options is not a smart thing to do with a team that has shown itself to be weak in character and prone to feeling too good about themselves.

My point about trading the choice for a proven performer like Osgood is to foster more competition. He wants the opportunity to play on offense. He already can do what Hurd does. To me, its a fairly easy decision if the cost is palatable.

After the release of Owens, the idea was to give our younger players a better shot. To me, that would not mean to practically hand them roster spots because we decided to go younger. Right now, if the season started today Hurd and Stanback would be near locks if we decided not to add anyone in the draft.

Osgood at the price of a 6th or 7th would be a great addition to compete with Hurd. I don't want him feeling entitled simply because he's now one up in the food chain.

so if one of them can be traded for someone you know exactly what you're getting i don't see that being a bad thing.

No, it isn't. It's a very smart thing actually. One of the reasons we had a great special teams unit in the 1990s is that we would value it enough to trade for players like Jim Schwantz and Elvis Patterson.
 

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Cant say he interests me one bit.

If Turner doesnt think he can play WR in his scheme, he cant play WR in ours either.

He's strictly a special teamer, and we have some of those already.
 

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dbair1967;2697729 said:
Cant say he interests me one bit.

If Turner doesnt think he can play WR in his scheme, he cant play WR in ours either.

So now Norv Turner is infallible? This is the man who couldn't figure out how to best utilize Randy Moss when in Oakland. Also, he was critical of Turner to begin with, so that could mean his lack of opportunity was due to being in the dog house.

I can't say with a great degree of confidence how much Osgood can play receiver, but I wouldn't use Norv Turner as an immediate disqualifier. He had several seasons prior to Turner's arrival in San Diego where he averaged over 20 yards a catch playing for Schottenheimer.

He's strictly a special teamer, and we have some of those already.

He's an exceptional special teamer and superior to Hurd.

For the cost of a low round choice, that alone is worth taking the risk.
 

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he is slower than molasses, 4.62 in the 40, i wouldnt give up a draft pick higher than 7th pick
 

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He has caught 4 passes in the last three years. We already have a couple of those WR types on the roster.
 

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Alexander;2697738 said:
So now Norv Turner is infallible?

Not at all, but he knows how to get alot out of people in his offensive system. He obviously doesnt think this kid fits.

This is the man who couldn't figure out how to best utilize Randy Moss when in Oakland.

Moss mailed it in out there, plain and simple. Nobody could have got anything out of them there.

Also, he was critical of Turner to begin with, so that could mean his lack of opportunity was due to being in the dog house.

I had not heard that, but if so there could be some truth to it.

I can't say with a great degree of confidence how much Osgood can play receiver, but I wouldn't use Norv Turner as an immediate disqualifier. He had several seasons prior to Turner's arrival in San Diego where he averaged over 20 yards a catch playing for Schottenheimer.

The guys had 4 catches in the last 3 seasons, he isnt worth the time IMO. Go get somebody in the draft that has some upside.

He's an exceptional special teamer and superior to Hurd.

Thats great that he is exceptional at it, but he plays WR. He's wasting an active roster spot because he is so mediocre at WR.

For the cost of a low round choice, that alone is worth taking the risk.

Thats your opinion, I dont share it. If he had any upside at WR maybe, but the draft at least has some people who do have upside and he does not.

I think the fact they claim to have been shopping him for 3 weeks and nobody has shown any interest is pretty telling.
 

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When I read the part where he skipped off season workouts and criticized his coach to protest not getting more opportunities on offense, that was enough for me.

Don't let him anywhere near Dallas!
 

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dbair1967;2697750 said:
The guys had 4 catches in the last 3 seasons, he isnt worth the time IMO. Go get somebody in the draft that has some upside.

The late rounds are going to be a crapshoot. If you can find a quality special teamer like Osgood there, you are doing well. From the sixth on, you are basically securing the rights to the same quality of talent you could get as an undrafted free agent. The upside is the same.

Thats great that he is exceptional at it, but he plays WR. He's wasting an active roster spot because he is so mediocre at WR.

If you are going off number of catches, we are really really wasting our time with Miles Austin and even Hurd, because all he has really done is play special teams. And right now, I will take all the proven exceptional special teams players I could get rather than trying to get them in the draft.

I think the fact they claim to have been shopping him for 3 weeks and nobody has shown any interest is pretty telling.

Not especially. We shopped more talented players for weeks and got no bites and ended up releasing them. I'd trade for him if the cost was low enough just to acquire him rather than depend on waivers. If he hit the wire, he'd be signed quickly, no question about it.
 

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MCIWEST;2697617 said:
Chargers receiver Kassim Osgood finally is getting what he wanted — a trade.
Unfortunately, the Chargers have yet to find any takers.
G.M. A.J. Smith said Friday, possibly via his best impersonation of Phil Hartman impersonating Ed McMahon, that Osgood has been on the block for three weeks.
You would be correct, sir,” Smith told the San Diego Union-Tribune.
The Chargers are looking for a late-round pick for Osgood, a two-time Pro Bowler based on his special-teams skill, who has been frustrated by the fact that the team won’t use him more on offense.
Smith refused to elaborate on the reasons for the decision to try to move Osgood.
“I’ve answered your question and I don’t have anything more to add,” Smith said. “If there are any developments regarding Kassim and a trade we’ll let you know immediately.”
Osgood has wanted out for a year. He skipped offseason workouts in 2008, and he criticized coach Norv Turner during the low point of a season that surprisingly ended with a division title and a playoff win.
Per the Union-Tribune, all teams were notified of Osgood’s availability on February 28.
Osgood is under contract through 2009.

I think we should take a look at this!

Unfortunate for who?
 

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LeonDixson;2697784 said:
When I read the part where he skipped off season workouts and criticized his coach to protest not getting more opportunities on offense, that was enough for me.

Don't let him anywhere near Dallas!

That was also enough for me as well. My son and I went down to the players hotel during last year's Pro Bowl and he was one of the guys who I thought had a holier than thou attitude. Kids would go up to him and he would simply stand there and ignore them like they weren't even there, just thought it was kind of crappy the way he did it. (Andre Reed was another one).
 

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Does this guy really think he can play receiver? He needs to know his role and be happy that he gets to go to Hawaii every year for just running down punts..He sounds like a headcase..no thanks.
 

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I saw this guy years ago play against Hofstra and he was a beast as a wr. I knw, i know it was a Hofstra, but he was like a man amongst boys. There is another similar guy at Cal Poly now named Ramses Barden that will be drafted in the 3-4 round this year. The dude is pretty damn good.
 

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mortboy;2697927 said:
I saw this guy years ago play against Hofstra and he was a beast as a wr. I knw, i know it was a Hofstra, but he was like a man amongst boys. There is another similar guy at Cal Poly now named Ramses Barden that will be drafted in the 3-4 round this year. The dude is pretty damn good.

Didn't Colston play at Hofstra too?
 
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