Charles Harris Pro Day

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Normally I wouldn't really pay attention to these, but he's been linked to the Cowboys so much by the media and a lot here, I thought it may be pertinent.





I'll add more if I see other numbers.
 

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The fact he performed better at his Pro Day really stirred up the Draft Twitter crowd, who had been burying him since the Combine.

Just goes to show you that a lot of people still go off workout results more than they should.
 

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Those numbers completely change his 'measurables', 3 cone is a huge jump too

I'm not really concerned about the 40 but as far as SPARQ he did himself a lot of favors. Rivers was one of the top 5 SPARQ defensive ends and Harris compares favorably to him, little low on broad but that vert is pretty crazy.

Good pro day for Harris. After killing the LB drills at the Combine, i don't think he makes it to us actually.
 

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So did he just choke at the combine? Or did the Mizzu coaches shorten the distances between the cones for him? That's a pretty damn big jump in times
 

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Those numbers completely change his 'measurables', 3 cone is a huge jump too

I'm not really concerned about the 40 but as far as SPARQ he did himself a lot of favors. Rivers was one of the top 5 SPARQ defensive ends and Harris compares favorably to him, little low on broad but that vert is pretty crazy.

Good pro day for Harris. After killing the LB drills at the Combine, i don't think he makes it to us actually.

I'm think this lessens the chance of him falling to us. There were a number of mock drafts that came out after the combine where he was getting taken well before 28 despite his results. You'll likely see more of those now.
 

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So did he just choke at the combine? Or did the Mizzu coaches shorten the distances between the cones for him? That's a pretty damn big jump in times

There was some talk that he put on weight to show he could be a DE and that affected his performance. He dropped a few pounds for his Pro Day.
 

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There was some talk that he put on weight to show he could be a DE and that affected his performance. He dropped a few pounds for his Pro Day.

If true I'd say that would be a pretty big deterrent to 4-3 teams like us. He only weighed 253 at the combine and it affected his quickness and agility that much? So that means he's really going to be playing at 242-246, something like that. 6'2 245 pound DE in the 1st round? No thanks
 

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If true I'd say that would be a pretty big deterrent to 4-3 teams like us. He only weighed 253 at the combine and it affected his quickness and agility that much? So that means he's really going to be playing at 242-246, something like that. 6'2 245 pound DE in the 1st round? No thanks

Isn't Takk essentially the same size?
 

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If true I'd say that would be a pretty big deterrent to 4-3 teams like us. He only weighed 253 at the combine and it affected his quickness and agility that much? So that means he's really going to be playing at 242-246, something like that. 6'2 245 pound DE in the 1st round? No thanks
Do they weigh them when they sack the qb?
 

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that is more what you see in games,i think he is very much in play and actually may go earlier than 28.
 

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Every year people get duped into pro day numbers. Most schools control the "official" published times through their media relations department. The way tests are conducted are not always consistent with the way it's done at the combine; the broad jump and bench for instance

Common sense should tell you you simply can't add 6" to your vert in a few weeks. Guys are dropping full tenths of a second off their times (e.g. 4.67 to 4.57).
 

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Every year people get duped into pro day numbers. Most schools control the "official" published times through their media relations department. The way tests are conducted are not always consistent with the way it's done at the combine; the broad jump and bench for instance

Common sense should tell you you simply can't add 6" to your vert in a few weeks. Guys are dropping full tenths of a second off their times (e.g. 4.67 to 4.57).

How is the vert or press done differently? They allow springs in their sneakers and take weight off the bar?

The different track I can understand with running but a jump is a jump and lifting 250 lbs is lifting 250 lbs.

Common sense tells you that people have bad days and performance can vary. Maybe he was dehydrated, sick, low blood sugar, or something else.
 

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How is the vert or press done differently? They allow springs in their sneakers and take weight off the bar?

In regard to the bench press, different track I can understand with running but a jump is a jump and lifting 250 lbs is lifting 250 lbs.

Common sense tells you that people have bad days and performance can vary. Maybe he was dehydrated, sick, low blood sugar, or something else.

At the Combine during the broad jump you're required to effectively "stick the landing," if you rock back and take a step back it's not counted. I've been told at some schools they'll allow for it if you fall down which means you don't have to worry about maintaining balance and can really extend your legs.

In regard to the bench press, training staffs at different schools will count bench press reps differently; locked-out elbows vs. 3/4 extension.

Common sense will tell you nobody does worse at their pro day than at the Combine. Go ahead, name two or three players that you have heard bombed their Pro Day in contrast to their respective Combine numbers.

Now list all the players who annually and miraculously improve their workout numbers at their pro day. Meh, I guess they all didn't eat a snickers before the Combine.

Every year prior to the post season all star games (Senior Bowl, East/West Shrine, etc.) and the Combine it's an ongoing joke to see the official heights and weights of the players compared to their listed college numbers. Suddenly 6'2" Joe Blow is actually 5'11". Most realize the college programs ***** the numbers but apparently some are too naive to understand. It's not a stretch to believe the schools are going to put their alums in the best light.
 
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