Chase Daniel: Dak Prescott film breakdown vs Bills

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Pre-snap motion is used primarily to see if the defense is playing man. The Bills did what the 49ers did the past three times and Denver did in 2021, rushed basically 4 the whole game with 2 deep shell, mixing up coverages. And teams that can get pressure and make Dak sit in the pocket and not bounce after his second read and play street ball, gets to watch him in all his “glory”..

It’s a whole lot different with “MVP” Dak when he isn’t playing garbage secondaries and with a lead, where opposing defenses are forced to try and make something happen up front against a dominant OL that gives Dak all day to throw, and these defenses know their offenses suck.

Dallas went into Denver 2 years ago, 6-1 averaging about 35 PPG on offense, “led” by Dak. Then Denver happened…

Wait until Dallas needs to restock their OL if they extend Dak..
You are partially correct.

Here is where you are wrong...

Any QB this year would have struggled against such a scheming, disguising and constantly changing Defense, especially when your WRs are struggling to get open (especially early), your Oline is struggling all day and you O-Coordinator is calling deep/late developing passing routes.

We have seen Mahomes, Hurts, Purdy, Herbert, Allen and other top 10 QBs struggle the same way against similar Defenses while your Offense is limited.
 

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He's looking at Cooks one on one on the outside, he's gets jammed pretty good,

2nd read should be to Ferguson immediately. Short slant against that cover two zone defense
Ok, I finally got a chance to look over the play. As you said, at the 9:37 mark...

Here is the problem, we don't know for sure Dak's progressions as to who he is supposed to look at first, second and third. By the looks of it, it looks like CeeDee was the first look, followed by Cooks. They both were on the right half of the field. Then I assume Ferguson would be Dak's third option, but by then, Ferguson is covered. Yes, Ferguson was open briefly early in his cut, but he wasn't the first or second read option in Dak's progress for that play. It's most likely why Chase Daniel said no one was open because he understood the progression countdown on the receivers order to look at as a QB.
 
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You are partially correct.

Here is where you are wrong...

Any QB this year would have struggled against such a scheming, disguising and constantly changing Defense, especially when your WRs are struggling to get open (especially early), your Oline is struggling all day and you O-Coordinator is calling deep/late developing passing routes.

We have seen Mahomes, Hurts, Purdy, Herbert, Allen and other top 10 QBs struggle the same way against similar Defenses while your Offense is limited.



Other QBs have depleted rosters and haven’t sucker their whole careers. Their “struggles” are not equivalent to Dak’s EIGHT YEAR PRIME struggles. Dak has had an incredibly healthy roster this year and we are talking about his whole career against zone coverages. Right on cue, everything in Dallas apart and he looks like a bottom 5 QB in the league, holding onto the ball, not being able to go through his full reads. The bail after your second read gimmick doesn’t work and he should have been picked off at least 4 times.

Mahomes already been winning SBs and he has no WRs right now and Purdy is in year 2 of his career and he’s back to killing it. Allen had a baby as an OC that was just fired. Herbert’s WRs were hurt, his OL was injured, he had a baby OL coach, Brandon Staley was completely incompetent and Hurts is not even that good and he’s also in year 4, not year 8.
 

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Other QBs have depleted rosters and haven’t sucker their whole careers. Their “struggles” are not equivalent to Dak’s EIGHT YEAR PRIME struggles. Dak has had an incredibly healthy roster this year and we are talking about his whole career against zone coverages. Right on cue, everything in Dallas apart and he looks like a bottom 5 QB in the league, holding onto the ball, not being able to go through his full reads. The bail after your second read gimmick doesn’t work and he should have been picked off at least 4 times.

Mahomes already been winning SBs and he has no WRs right now and Purdy is in year 2 of his career and he’s back to killing it. Allen had a baby as an OC that was just fired. Herbert’s WRs were hurt, his OL was injured, he had a baby OL coach, Brandon Staley was completely incompetent and Hurts is not even that good and he’s also in year 4, not year 8.
More lies from you. Why do you lie so much? You do know you are lying, don't you? You do know Dak has shown up to play and carried the team many times during prime games?
 

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Biggest point from this IMO is the motion. When they have motion, I expect a good result. They cannot forget about motion because they're on the road.
 

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I'd say ole Chase has an agenda. It can't be because Dak played badly. Lol. This has been the story of Dak his whole 8 years. If the defense doesn't get TO's (or outrigth score) and receivers aren't getting wide opne (by NFL standards) he struggles mightly. Dak goes as the team goes. If the team is kicking *** it makes his job easy and he does it. When the going gets tough he doesn't have the talent or mentalilty to play well and keep the team in it. Once he's paid 55-60 million a year, the team gets worse and he gets older, this is only going to get worse. He's not going to improve at this point in his career. He's not Drew Brees.
 

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Chase brought up the same thing I created another thread on the other day. The offense is stagnant and doesn't use a lot of pre-snap motion when they are on the road.

It shows.
Pre-snap motion and snap count timing in general are big issues for all visiting offenses in loud venues.
 

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I'd say ole Chase has an agenda. It can't be because Dak played badly. Lol. This has been the story of Dak his whole 8 years. If the defense doesn't get TO's (or outrigth score) and receivers aren't getting wide opne (by NFL standards) he struggles mightly. Dak goes as the team goes. If the team is kicking *** it makes his job easy and he does it. When the going gets tough he doesn't have the talent or mentalilty to play well and keep the team in it. Once he's paid 55-60 million a year, the team gets worse and he gets older, this is only going to get worse. He's not going to improve at this point in his career. He's not Drew Brees.
Yeah, Dak has just been playing as the best QB in the whole NFL for 5+ games straight prior to the Bills game.

Just be quiet.
 

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player goes in motion, zone defenders dont move, Dak in his mind "Oh no... Here we goooooo!"
I do expect a veteran QB to notice there is an unblocked DB at the line of scrimmage.
 

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Poor Dak just doesn't have the coaching or players around him to win when it's "Cruch" time.
MVP MVP MVP MVP MVP MVP MVP MVP sings along now everyone.........

P.S. Does anybody know when we play another DOG team at home? WOOF!!!!!
Exactly. Let me summarize the breakdown.

"Bad coaching. Poor route running. Bland scheme. Awful blocking.

Dak played great. He was near flawless, everyone else is dragging him down "

There's the Cliff notes version
 

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Exactly. Let me summarize the breakdown.

"Bad coaching. Poor route running. Bland scheme. Awful blocking.

Dak played great. He was near flawless, everyone else is dragging him down "

There's the Cliff notes version
Ok. Shut it. We get it. You hate him.
 

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Other QBs have depleted rosters and haven’t sucker their whole careers. Their “struggles” are not equivalent to Dak’s EIGHT YEAR PRIME struggles. Dak has had an incredibly healthy roster this year and we are talking about his whole career against zone coverages. Right on cue, everything in Dallas apart and he looks like a bottom 5 QB in the league, holding onto the ball, not being able to go through his full reads. The bail after your second read gimmick doesn’t work and he should have been picked off at least 4 times.

Mahomes already been winning SBs and he has no WRs right now and Purdy is in year 2 of his career and he’s back to killing it. Allen had a baby as an OC that was just fired. Herbert’s WRs were hurt, his OL was injured, he had a baby OL coach, Brandon Staley was completely incompetent and Hurts is not even that good and he’s also in year 4, not year 8.
Great to see you back! We missed your fabulous QB analysis over the last month or so.
 

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This is what I have noticed. Since the Garrett era.

The Cowboys road game plans are FAR and AWAY different. At home they utilize motion, a lot. Regardless of who they play. On the road they go into this shell of vanilla beat your man mentality. Its really weird. They never go into someone elses house and attack. They play scared.

Thats on players and coaches but this isnt new.
So do we think we can win with this approach, isnt it tantamount of basing our game on the 'strategy of hope'? How do we get out of this 'malaise', im still of the opinion thats why the Cooks attempt was crucial, if it connected it was a statement play which hopefully kickstarted a less vanilla approach.....we trieed to lang the haymaker, missed and then went back into the shell.

Its all about this fear when playing away and that players (and then coaching has to dumb down accordingly).
 

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Other QBs have depleted rosters and haven’t sucker their whole careers. Their “struggles” are not equivalent to Dak’s EIGHT YEAR PRIME struggles. Dak has had an incredibly healthy roster this year and we are talking about his whole career against zone coverages. Right on cue, everything in Dallas apart and he looks like a bottom 5 QB in the league, holding onto the ball, not being able to go through his full reads. The bail after your second read gimmick doesn’t work and he should have been picked off at least 4 times.

Mahomes already been winning SBs and he has no WRs right now and Purdy is in year 2 of his career and he’s back to killing it. Allen had a baby as an OC that was just fired. Herbert’s WRs were hurt, his OL was injured, he had a baby OL coach, Brandon Staley was completely incompetent and Hurts is not even that good and he’s also in year 4, not year 8.
As you mentioned above, presnap motion is primarily used to tip the QB to the defensive scheme being used.

Then Dak would seem to be at a disadvantage compared to those other QBs since Dallas is generally in the lower half of the league (32nd this year) in presnap motion. Most of those other QB's teams are in the top 10 in the league in that category.

But I'm sure, with the last 5 weeks you've spent doing mental gymnastics in your basement, you have an explanation (excuse) as to why those QBs haven't been able to take advantage of this and far exceed the performance of this horrible, 4th round QB.
 
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