Chase Daniel: Dak Prescott film breakdown vs Bills

[khiladi]

You didn't go down in your basement and research this? I was mostly screwing with you.

But as usual, you picked a limited portion of the actual season to fit your anti-Dak narrative. Middle of the pack for first 9 weeks??? While those other QBs mentioned are top of the league in presnap motion.

And I suppose you stopped watching after Dallas started winning. But if you don't watch enough NFL football to see Dallas runs an offense devoid of any significant presnap motion, that's on you.

LOL.. just admit you were wrong and move on..

 

[pete026]

LOL.. just admit you were wrong and move on..

Wrong? Well, you do realize there are different statistical analysis in regards to presnap motion (rate%, rate% with set, rate% without set, etc.). But according to the rating used in the article you linked, they were middle of the pack when Dallas lost to Arizona, Philly, and the 49ers. They were tops in the league during their recent win streak. All this per your link which was one of the major points of the article. Quoted from the article "From Week 9 on? They've thrown more passes preceded by motion (125) than any team in football."

But I'm sure you will stay active here with their loss today. Keep following up on your promise to treat Dak how others mistreated Romo.

 

[khiladi]

Wrong? Well, you do realize there are different statistical analysis in regards to presnap motion (rate%, rate% with set, rate% without set, etc.). But according to the rating used in the article you linked, they were middle of the pack when Dallas lost to Arizona, Philly, and the 49ers. They were tops in the league during their recent win streak. All this per your link which was one of the major points of the article. Quoted from the article "From Week 9 on? They've thrown more passes preceded by motion (125) than any team in football."

But I'm sure you will stay active here with their loss today. Keep following up on your promise to treat Dak how others mistreated Romo.

Man, all the waffling. You claimed they were 32nd in pre-snap usage which was completely wrong. None of what you just wrote changes how wrong you were. Like I said, just take the L.

 

[pete026]

Man, all the waffling. You claimed they were 32nd in pre-snap usage which was completely wrong. None of what you just wrote changes how wrong you were. Like I said, just take the L.

So I will admit I looked at the Cowboys presnap rate at week 6 of the season which just happened to coincide with the worst offensive struggles.

But only if you admit you completely blew it in regards to the link you posted. The link you posted was the direct opposite of what you thought it was saying. It proved the Cowboys offensive struggles, then resurgence post bye, was affected by the use of presnap motion.

 

[khiladi]

So I will admit I looked at the Cowboys presnap rate at week 6 of the season which just happened to coincide with the worst offensive struggles.

But only if you admit you completely blew it in regards to the link you posted. The link you posted was the direct opposite of what you thought it was saying. It proved the Cowboys offensive struggles, then resurgence post bye, was affected by the use of presnap motion.

Why would I admit I was wrong with the link I posted, when I wasn’t. And why I admit I was wrong even now with this chart, when I am not.

Are you that oblivious to realize that what is the lowest for Dallas at week 6 was motion AT SNAP, not motion before the snap, meaning what Dallas and Dak use to DIAGNOSE what look the opposing defense is using, meaning whether man or zone? Dallas is not even close to LAST in that space.

Dallas using motion at the snap has no benefit for Dummy Dak from behind the Center as far as diagnosing defenses are concerned…

So like I said, take the L gracefully.. it’s embarassing..

 

[shabazz]

I thought Dak played a pretty dam good game......the defense making a stop at the end should have been the game sealer.

In the past 20 years, our defenses have let down both Tony and Dakota in the most critical times

 

[pete026]

Why would I admit I was wrong with the link I posted, when I wasn’t. And why I admit I was wrong even now with this chart, when I am not.

Are you that oblivious to realize that what is the lowest for Dallas at week 6 was motion AT SNAP, not motion before the snap, meaning what Dallas and Dak use to DIAGNOSE what look the opposing defense is using, meaning whether man or zone? Dallas is not even close to LAST in that space.

Dallas using motion at the snap has no benefit for Dummy Dak from behind the Center as far as diagnosing defenses are concerned…

So like I said, take the L gracefully.. it’s embarassing..

What is now embarrassing is my realization you know nothing on the subject. What a waste of my time.

But to educate you, the link I provided is presnap motion stats. Motion at snap means the presnap motion is continuing "at snap" vs. presnap motion that stops prior to snap (Player re-sets). Both obviously start before the snap, hence both being part of presnap motion. So both give the offense info regarding the Ds scheme.

Motion starting at the snap is "normal play". Duh! Maybe you can hook up with Dummy Dak and he can give you some pointers on basic football terminology.

 

[khiladi]

What is now embarrassing is my realization you know nothing on the subject. What a waste of my time.

But to educate you, the link I provided is presnap motion stats. Motion at snap means the presnap motion is continuing "at snap" vs. presnap motion that stops prior to snap (Player re-sets). Both obviously start before the snap, hence both being part of presnap motion. So both give the offense info regarding the Ds scheme.

Motion starting at the snap is "normal play". Duh! Maybe you can hook up with Dummy Dak and he can give you some pointers on basic football terminology.

Dude, you sound even more desperate. You see what happens to people when they are wrong and digs in after they are proven wrong, they just look more and more stupid..

ITS ALL PRE-SNAP MOTION DATA which clearly doesn’t put Dallas anywhere at the bottom of the list in pre-snap motion data including from a % standpoint, which means you are wrong as hell regarding the 32nd number..

Take the L again..

 

[pete026]

Dude, you sound even more desperate. You see what happens to people when they are wrong and digs in after they are proven wrong, they just look more and more stupid..

ITS ALL PRE-SNAP MOTION DATA which clearly doesn’t put Dallas anywhere at the bottom of the list in pre-snap motion data including from a % standpoint, which means you are wrong as hell regarding the 32nd number..

Take the L again..

Quote my whole statement if you are going to make accusations:

"Dallas is generally bottom half of the league in presnap motion.....".

I could go on explaining football to you but you're not worth it. Continue your attack on all those Romo ghosts. I'm sure he appreciates your effort.

 

[khiladi]

Quote my whole statement if you are going to make accusations:

"Dallas is generally bottom half of the league in presnap motion.....".

I could go on explaining football to you but you're not worth it. Continue your attack on all those Romo ghosts. I'm sure he appreciates your effort.

Ah yes.. that’s what you meant by 32nd…

 

[America's Cowboy]

I thought Dak played a pretty dam good game......the defense making a stop at the end should have been the game sealer.

In the past 20 years, our defenses have let down both Tony and Dakota in the most critical times

Correct, bro.