Cheap vs Expensive Contracts

[FanofJerry]

Looks like we got an answer on the QB Super Bowl debate.

Cherry picking is so convenient isnt it?

I would never chase cheap QB contracts...look at the proven results.

 

[FanofJerry]

Avoided lol

 

[john van brocklin]

Looks like we got an answer on the QB Super Bowl debate.

Cherry picking is so convenient isnt it?

I would never chase cheap QB contracts...look at the proven results.

Cheap QB contracts where the QB is actually very good are very rare....

 

[CowboyRoy]

Cheap QB contracts where the QB is actually very good are very rare....

Yep and combine that with needing a SB contending roster to surround that young QB that is very good and its even more rare.

 

[john van brocklin]

Yep and combine that with needing a SB contending roster to surround that young QB that is very good and its even more rare.

Agreed....

 

[Cowboys0988]

Big difference between a cheap contract and a 2nd round rookie contract.

 

[Silverz1972]

You shouldn’t get an expensive contract until you win a Super Bowl. There are only a handful of maholmes in the nfl. Problem is a lot of the cousins and daks get expensive contract too.

 

[FanofJerry]

You shouldn’t get an expensive contract until you win a Super Bowl. There are only a handful of maholmes in the nfl. Problem is a lot of the cousins and daks get expensive contract too.

Its just amazing how posters cant put themselves in a GM's shoes. No one should ever get paid unless they win a Super Bowl when its not a single individual sport like High Jump. Makes a lot of sense.

Dan Marino should never have gotten paid. Makes sense. Eli is better than Aaron Rogers. Makes sense.

No one seems to want to put themselves in a real GM's shoes whom has to make real decisions based off of play and future hope. Of course Dak's 4/5 year resume said he should not have gotten a pay day. Makes a lot of sense. Just use players and never pay them when its not entirely their individual fault for not winning the whole thing. Great excuse.

The illusions constant narrative of "dont pay players" and "player empowerment is bad" just doesnt makes sense unless you have an agenda. None of it adds up unless youre pushing some weird propaganda angle. Notice how its always the players fault and the players being greedy but not the owners. Its as if the illusion doesnt want you to focus on the owners being bad because the illusion is in control and ripping "players" off. Really odd how it distracts from the owners always.

Seems like real GM's have to choose between paying a player based on performance or letting that player walk to a rival team and possibly having that player beat you. You have even more egg on your face if you let a QB walk to a division rival and murders you twice a year and prevents you from getting into the playoffs. No one wants to talk about that...they just want to hate.

 

[FanofJerry]

avoided again ha

 

[blueblood70]

Cheap QB contracts where the QB is actually very good are very rare....

Not really, rare? you mean EVERY Rookie deal is cheap, its the 2nd contracts that become the change in perspective from fans. trust me Philly going to have to pay 4 players soon that team very soon market deals and then the narrative shifts to ripping hurts for every bad throw, poor decisions, int , and or fumble and ALL losses.

Ravens/Lamar about to find out how fans narratives shift in heartbeat once you have payer make 50+ mil and still looks the same as he did before.

 

[blueblood70]

Its just amazing how posters cant put themselves in a GM's shoes. No one should ever get paid unless they win a Super Bowl when its not a single individual sport like High Jump. Makes a lot of sense.

Dan Marino should never have gotten paid. Makes sense. Eli is better than Aaron Rogers. Makes sense.

No one seems to want to put themselves in a real GM's shoes whom has to make real decisions based off of play and future hope. Of course Dak's 4/5 year resume said he should not have gotten a pay day. Makes a lot of sense. Just use players and never pay them when its not entirely their individual fault for not winning the whole thing. Great excuse.

The illusions constant narrative of "dont pay players" and "player empowerment is bad" just doesnt makes sense unless you have an agenda. None of it adds up unless youre pushing some weird propaganda angle. Notice how its always the players fault and the players being greedy but not the owners. Its as if the illusion doesnt want you to focus on the owners being bad because the illusion is in control and ripping "players" off. Really odd how it distracts from the owners always.

Seems like real GM's have to choose between paying a player based on performance or letting that player walk to a rival team and possibly having that player beat you. You have even more egg on your face if you let a QB walk to a division rival and murders you twice a year and prevents you from getting into the playoffs. No one wants to talk about that...they just want to hate.

most of that is true but Dak deal is now 8th in the league and hes proved one when healthy ZERO losing seasons, 4 of 6 season in the playoff,. 2 in the 2nd round, always top 5 in most stats including the important one top 5 since 2016 in win%.. hes not mistake prime as fans say 166 passing tds 26 rushing tds only 65 INTs for his carer heck Troy had 165 tds and 141 INts.. Dak cant make up for team issues that show up in these playoff games and sure hes not elite but being 8th in qb money is deserved ie its market for payer with his resume unless you want to be bottom 20 teams who haven't found or paid player like dak.

top 5 highest paid qb didn't make the playoffs this year, Dak did again Daks made it 4 of 6 healthy seasons. perspective it is what owner has to pay to have a qb on 2nd deal that is considered top 10 or risk being bad for while. we saw that between Aikman and Romo.. it can suck hard as fan base and a business owner to go through that,

 

[CATCH17]

Looks like we got an answer on the QB Super Bowl debate.

Cherry picking is so convenient isnt it?

I would never chase cheap QB contracts...look at the proven results.

You just ignoring the elephant in the room and hoping everyone is stupid enough to boil it down to expensive vs cheap contract?

 

[CATCH17]

Cheap QB contracts where the QB is actually very good are very rare....

Teams usually get the cheap for 5 years and most of these guys win their title on that rookie deal.

It’s hard for truly elite QBs to win titles after getting paid. Much less these Dak types.

 

[Proof]

Looks like we got an answer on the QB Super Bowl debate.

Cherry picking is so convenient isnt it?

I would never chase cheap QB contracts...look at the proven results.

what do you mean chase? no ones looking to sign cheap bums. the logic is if you don't have an elite guy then continuing to draft in hopes of hitting a franchise guy and building around him on a rookie deal.

Based on the last couple of years, you either need to have the GOAT under market value, a top ten guy on an all in roster, or the best qb in the game w/ elite coaching

 

[CATCH17]

You shouldn’t get an expensive contract until you win a Super Bowl. There are only a handful of maholmes in the nfl. Problem is a lot of the cousins and daks get expensive contract too.

It took 7 posts for someone to call out the obvious.. Wow.

 

[CATCH17]

Its just amazing how posters cant put themselves in a GM's shoes. No one should ever get paid unless they win a Super Bowl when its not a single individual sport like High Jump. Makes a lot of sense.

Dan Marino should never have gotten paid. Makes sense. Eli is better than Aaron Rogers. Makes sense.

No one seems to want to put themselves in a real GM's shoes whom has to make real decisions based off of play and future hope. Of course Dak's 4/5 year resume said he should not have gotten a pay day. Makes a lot of sense. Just use players and never pay them when its not entirely their individual fault for not winning the whole thing. Great excuse.

The illusions constant narrative of "dont pay players" and "player empowerment is bad" just doesnt makes sense unless you have an agenda. None of it adds up unless youre pushing some weird propaganda angle. Notice how its always the players fault and the players being greedy but not the owners. Its as if the illusion doesnt want you to focus on the owners being bad because the illusion is in control and ripping "players" off. Really odd how it distracts from the owners always.

Seems like real GM's have to choose between paying a player based on performance or letting that player walk to a rival team and possibly having that player beat you. You have even more egg on your face if you let a QB walk to a division rival and murders you twice a year and prevents you from getting into the playoffs. No one wants to talk about that...they just want to hate.

I don’t think anyone is against paying players.

I think people are against giving RBs and not truly elite QBs a mega deal. That’s just smart GMing at this point.

 

[CATCH17]

Not really, rare? you mean EVERY Rookie deal is cheap, its the 2nd contracts that become the change in perspective from fans. trust me Philly going to have to pay 4 players soon that team very soon market deals and then the narrative shifts to ripping hurts for every bad throw, poor decisions, int , and or fumble and ALL losses.

Ravens/Lamar about to find out how fans narratives shift in heartbeat once you have payer make 50+ mil and still looks the same as he did before.

As the team gets worse and they blame the team around him…..

 

[CATCH17]

what do you mean chase? no ones looking to sign cheap bums. the logic is if you don't have an elite guy then continuing to draft in hopes of hitting a franchise guy and building around him on a rookie deal.

Based on the last couple of years, you either need to have the GOAT under market value, a top ten guy on an all in roster, or the best qb in the game w/ elite coaching

The NFC championship game consisted of a 2nd round QB and the last pick in the draft who was a rookie.

If you don’t have an elite guy then you’re better off building the team.

The Cowboys have proven they don’t need Dak to win games with a below average QB. Imagine if they actually tried to draft a guy with upside…






Off-topic… Surely you guys don’t think the Chiefs team is that good… Right? Like it’s fairly obvious they’d be lucky to be a mediocre team without Mahomes…

The Eagles have a much better overall football team than the Chiefs. They just dont have the best QB in football like the Chiefs have.

 

[Proof]

The NFC championship game consisted of a 2nd round QB and the last pick in the draft who was a rookie.

If you don’t have an elite guy then you’re better off building the team.

The Cowboys have proven they don’t need Dak to win games with a below average QB. Imagine if they actually tried to draft a guy with upside…






Off-topic… Surely you guys don’t think the Chiefs team is that good… Right? Like it’s fairly obvious they’d be lucky to be a mediocre team without Mahomes…

The Eagles have a much better overall football team than the Chiefs. They just dont have the best QB in football like the Chiefs have.

you're talking sb runner ups, i'm talking sb winners. and the eagles had a guy, and drafted a guy and built around him anyway, like i suggested.

 

[CATCH17]

you're talking sb runner ups, i'm talking sb winners. and the eagles had a guy, and drafted a guy and built around him anyway, like i suggested.

Yes.. But.. Mahomes is attached to the big contract and not a slightly above average QB like Dak.

We’re talking about the best QB talent of all time who also already won a Super Bowl on his rookie deal.

Do you really think people are this dumb?

Most of these non elite QBs win on their rookie deal when they have cheap contracts. Pay attention.