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i think these are some points not always mentioned in this whole debate, regarding garrett......

* jones gave garrett his big opportunity; he took a qb coach, and interviewed him for the head-coaching position.....then effectively gave him the offensive coordinator's job BEFORE the head coach was hired: a huge statement of faith in garrett, by jones (and a huge promotion).

* garrett is being groomed for our head coaching position: there's no danger here, folks......if the cowboys start sliding, phillips will be the fall guy, and garrett will get a free pass to that job. he's in a perfect position, career-wise.

* garrett would do well to NOT go to an awful team, desperately trying to rebuild: it takes a lot more than great head-coaching to turn a team around.....history shows that many good coaches received a kiss of death by going this route, too soon....

* it would behoove garrett to gain more valuabe experience before jumping on this ship: he's young, gaining experience.....and needs to position himself better for this job, by soaking up as much knowledge as possible (from phillips)......

i could go on, but i think the point is made (and i hope that jones emphatically makes these points TO garrett)......garrett has a very bright future in dallas, and he's in a win-win situation: he needs to stay PATIENT; he WILL be the head coach, sooner rather than later......
 

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I think we will learn a lot about garrett over how he handles this whole situation. Does he have the patience and discipline to handle it well?
 

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deepBLUE;1871842 said:
i think these are some points not always mentioned in this whole debate, regarding garrett......

* jones gave garrett his big opportunity; he took a qb coach, and interviewed him for the head-coaching position.....then effectively gave him the offensive coordinator's job BEFORE the head coach was hired: a huge statement of faith in garrett, by jones (and a huge promotion).

* garrett is being groomed for our head coaching position: there's no danger here, folks......if the cowboys start sliding, phillips will be the fall guy, and garrett will get a free pass to that job. he's in a perfect position, career-wise.

* garrett would do well to NOT go to an awful team, desperately trying to rebuild: it takes a lot more than great head-coaching to turn a team around.....history shows that many good coaches received a kiss of death by going this route, too soon....

* it would behoove garrett to gain more valuabe experience before jumping on this ship: he's young, gaining experience.....and needs to position himself better for this job, by soaking up as much knowledge as possible (from phillips)......

i could go on, but i think the point is made (and i hope that jones emphatically makes these points TO garrett)......garrett has a very bright future in dallas, and he's in a win-win situation: he needs to stay PATIENT; he WILL be the head coach, sooner rather than later......

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He doesn't care about the lousy team or he wouldn't of accepted the interview in th first place. He's trying to work Jerry's pocket.
 

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I think Garrett would have a hard time building a quality coaching staff at this point if he had to build one with a new team.
 

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BALKIS;1871858 said:
$ Talks
He doesn't care about the lousy team or he wouldn't of accepted the interview in th first place. He's trying to work Jerry's pocket.

They say Garrett isn't about the money. And his family loves Dallas more than NY or Miami. Garrett will do interviews with other teams for expirence in the interview process.
 

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I am really not worried about Garrett leaving - I really think a plan is in order but admittedly, speculation on my behalf.
 

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I'm still a little leery that Garrett would be offered a job right now. He spent 2 seasons as QB coach and then 1 as an O-Coordinator calling the plays. He turned a good offense into a great one. It may be a little too early in his career before an owner wants to go with him.




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burmafrd;1871847 said:
I think we will learn a lot about garrett over how he handles this whole situation. Does he have the patience and discipline to handle it well?
very good point......i will watch with interest (and anxiety). i hate to come right out and say it, but here it is: garrett, you owe jones something.....stay in dallas......

good responses by everyone else, too: i definitely think garrett is due a pay-raise.....
 

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Actually, its more a case of what he OWES HIMSELF. He needs more experince overall before taking a HC job. That is the main reason he needs to stay a couple more years.
 

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burmafrd;1871890 said:
Actually, its more a case of what he OWES HIMSELF. He needs more experince overall before taking a HC job. That is the main reason he needs to stay a couple more years.

I agree - I'm not sure he's ready for the HC position ANYWHERE. We'll see..he's a few years away.......which might fit right into the whole plan.
 

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I think when Romo, TO, and Witten are all on the field and playing their A game, they make a lot of people look smarter and better than they really are.

Garrett gets some of the credit for this team's improvement, but a lot of it is Romo gaining experience and being "on" more frequently than last year. When he's been off, Dallas still hasn't had any answers.

I hope Garrett stays...this team needs some continuity...but if he leaves life goes on. Also, I'm still not convinced he has the leadership abilities of a head coach.
 

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punchnjudy;1871910 said:
I think when Romo, TO, and Witten are all on the field and playing their A game, they make a lot of people look smarter and better than they really are.

Garrett gets some of the credit for this team's improvement, but a lot of it is Romo gaining experience and being "on" more frequently than last year. When he's been off, Dallas still hasn't had any answers.

I hope Garrett stays...this team needs some continuity...but if he leaves life goes on. Also, I'm still not convinced he has the leadership abilities of a head coach.

Very good point, Romo, T.O. and Witten could make Bruce Coslet look like a genius. Sparano got the same kinds of results from the same unit last year.
 

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punchnjudy;1871910 said:
I think when Romo, TO, and Witten are all on the field and playing their A game, they make a lot of people look smarter and better than they really are.

Garrett gets some of the credit for this team's improvement, but a lot of it is Romo gaining experience and being "on" more frequently than last year. When he's been off, Dallas still hasn't had any answers.

I hope Garrett stays...this team needs some continuity...but if he leaves life goes on. Also, I'm still not convinced he has the leadership abilities of a head coach.
good point: it takes an entire organization to make things work. it takes the right personnel on the field, and it takes a defense, too......

i also might add that i want to see some of that unpredictable, snappy play-calling in the playoffs....that i haven't seen for several games, now......
 

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I'm sure we'll see some new wrinkles in the playoffs, but the main thing I want to see is Romo being more loose out there and improvising like he was earlier in the year.

When you hear "football guys" assess Romo, they always use that i-word. That's not scheme or the playbook, that's just him.
 

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punchnjudy;1871958 said:
I'm sure we'll see some new wrinkles in the playoffs, but the main thing I want to see is Romo being more loose out there and improvising like he was earlier in the year.

When you hear "football guys" assess Romo, they always use that i-word. That's not scheme or the playbook, that's just him.
man, i hear that......i was just thinking this morning that i haven't seen much of the improvisational, irrepressible romo, lately.....i wonder if garrett is trying to keep him in the pocket TOO much?
 

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Sarge;1871876 said:
I am really not worried about Garrett leaving - I really think a plan is in order but admittedly, speculation on my behalf.


Agreed.



There is also the "legacy" angle.

It started with Dallas as their backup QB on those SB teams that when called on he got it done.

Then he comes back to help advance this team with that knowledge.

I think his legacy possibly finishes up in Dallas.
 

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deepBLUE;1871974 said:
man, i hear that......i was just thinking this morning that i haven't seen much of the improvisational, irrepressible romo, lately.....i wonder if garrett is trying to keep him in the pocket TOO much?


I think NOW that its playoff time... those shackles come off.
There is no tomorrow if we dont win.
 

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Oh good another Garrett thread.

J/K deepBLUE but I don't think he is leaving.
 

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YoMick;1872005 said:
I think NOW that its playoff time... those shackles come off.
There is no tomorrow if we dont win.
i hear it: break out all the dishes; don't spare a tea-cup......check that; if we get a good lead, save a bowl or 2 for the next game.....:starspin
 

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big dog cowboy;1872012 said:
Oh good another Garrett thread.

J/K deepBLUE but I don't think he is leaving.
yeah, but this is a really premiere garrett thread......:laugh2:

hope you're right; it's bothering me, at the moment (that, and t.o.'s health).....
 
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