Chip Kelly Offense

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I say we let Kiff coordinate the D for the two games we play them this year.

Kiff owns Chip!! ;)
 

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Anyone dismissing Kelly's offense as a gimmick is a fool. Bellichek admits to taking ideas from his friend Kelly, and after having to watch the Eagles-Pats game last night, you see that philosophy on both sides. The Pats and Eagles offensive are quite similar, and anyone ripping Kelly for being a gimmick is also ripping Bellichek. I don't know what some people see, but the Pats have looked damn good the past ten years. For whatever reason, the Eagles played poorly against us last year. Foles played the first game hurt against us and didn't play the following week due to the nature of the groin pull he had. He was damn good in almost every other game. Also remember that last year was only the first year that the offense was in place. Foles will regress but the team should play better as an offensive unit with another year under their belt. I've seen enough Eagle games up here to know that Shady, not punk-*** Jackson, makes this team go. I've seen Jackson shut down one on one with stat lines like 3 catches for 20 yards. He is the ultimate hit or miss receiver, and his influence is a bit overstated. Last night, Foles was throwing against the first team Patriot D most of the time and went 8-10, 81 yards and a TD. If one of his receivers didn't fumble away the first catch his line would have been better. DOn't underestimate this year's opponent based on last year's results.
 

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Color me impressed.

I was impressed with his offenses in college and I was very impressed what did with the Eagles last year in his rookie coaching season in the NFL.

He took an afterthought of a QB in Foles and Foles ended up coming within a hair of the all time NFL single season QB rating with a 119 QBR on 27 TDs and 2 Interceptions.

Beyond that I was shocked at his commitment to the running game -- the Eagles ran for 2566 yards (!!!) and 19 TDs.

Anybody who thinks this guy is a flash in the pan is fooling themselves. IMHO he is the real deal and he has my respect.
 

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Don't ever discount an enemy, even if he is simple and presents a basic level of consideration. That tendency will end up getting one beat.

Not sure what the point of this post is.

Where did I discount them? I'm just not buying the 2014 Eagles hype, nor am I scared of them. The Dallas players shouldn't be scared either.
 

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Not sure what the point of this post is.

Where did I discount them? I'm just not buying the 2014 Eagles hype, nor am I scared of them. The Dallas players shouldn't be scared either.

Reread what was stated, and don't be naïve enough to think you can't learn from it...as to origin, take a personal chip out of comment.

The Eagles are a challenge, and I like putting them down...but facts are still facts. And applying a principal with another world experience doesn't diminish the principal involved.

Do crying in the cab of a pickup...Cowboy.
 

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Reread what was stated, and don't be naïve enough to think you can't learn from it..

If I'm ever interested in hearing your advice I'll ask for it.

Few things are more annoying than unsolicited advice.
 

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If I'm ever interested in hearing your advice I'll ask for it.

Few things are more annoying than unsolicited advice.

Spoken as a true wise ***...don't offer an opinion and you won't ever have a problem. And you never approached the context offered or applied anything beyond attitude.

It's NOT stupid to be alert to all challenges in sport. That goes with a veteran and even an All Pro. One doesn't go complacent as to the possibility that someone else, just as the Star did, will come from no where and take HIS job. Now Ace, apply more than an attiude, or your insults will be handled to YOUR disliking. No threat, I don't walk past rude. And I don't toss a load out that screams cry baby as well.

Didn't understand the difference between a stand up cowboy and one that seeks a hiding through removal. Your 'removal' is from confronting the issue on grounds that it was presented. That is childish and poked full of agenda.

Son, from the start of Viet Nam, their country's Army attempted to adapt and beat a specific technique...instead of the principals behind them.
But if one didn't respect that they were more than willing to die for THEIR country, then one ended up dead. Unlike belly aching on a sports board.

The illustrious history of the Cowboys have shown many occasions when they themselves rose up to beat a highly respected and favored Washington, Eagle, or Giant team. They were taken for granted.

Learn some listening skills, or take your lowgrade insults elsewhere. Want a discussion, then find topic.

Not the least bit intimidated with a preppie show of emotions.
 

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Anyone dismissing Kelly's offense as a gimmick is a fool. Bellichek admits to taking ideas from his friend Kelly, and after having to watch the Eagles-Pats game last night, you see that philosophy on both sides. The Pats and Eagles offensive are quite similar, and anyone ripping Kelly for being a gimmick is also ripping Bellichek. I don't know what some people see, but the Pats have looked damn good the past ten years. For whatever reason, the Eagles played poorly against us last year. Foles played the first game hurt against us and didn't play the following week due to the nature of the groin pull he had. He was damn good in almost every other game. Also remember that last year was only the first year that the offense was in place. Foles will regress but the team should play better as an offensive unit with another year under their belt. I've seen enough Eagle games up here to know that Shady, not punk-*** Jackson, makes this team go. I've seen Jackson shut down one on one with stat lines like 3 catches for 20 yards. He is the ultimate hit or miss receiver, and his influence is a bit overstated. Last night, Foles was throwing against the first team Patriot D most of the time and went 8-10, 81 yards and a TD. If one of his receivers didn't fumble away the first catch his line would have been better. DOn't underestimate this year's opponent based on last year's results.

The Pats didn't run any hurry up last night so your point is hogwash.
 

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I think his offense will continue to be very successful, but I think he is going to have to make Foles look deep a little more frequently to back those safeties off for the screens and slants.

Like another poster said, I don't think Foles is the right guy anyway. Kelly's offenses have always had a QB run option on every play. With Foles, you throw that out the window. If Kelly managed to get a Mariotta, Winston etc. then you would really see this offense open up.
 

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The Pats didn't run any hurry up last night so your point is hogwash.

The Pats run a lot of no-huddle during the season, so my point is valid and you need to watch more football. I watched the entire game, the Pats did not huddle up on every play. Also, anyone with any football IQ knows the relationship between Kelly and Bellichek.
 

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The Pats run a lot of no-huddle during the season, so my point is valid and you need to watch more football. I watched the entire game, the Pats did not huddle up on every play. Also, anyone with any football IQ knows the relationship between Kelly and Bellichek.

They didn't last night is my point. I see you have reading comprehension issues.
 

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Anyone dismissing Kelly's offense as a gimmick is a fool. Bellichek admits to taking ideas from his friend Kelly, and after having to watch the Eagles-Pats game last night, you see that philosophy on both sides. The Pats and Eagles offensive are quite similar, and anyone ripping Kelly for being a gimmick is also ripping Bellichek. I don't know what some people see, but the Pats have looked damn good the past ten years. For whatever reason, the Eagles played poorly against us last year. Foles played the first game hurt against us and didn't play the following week due to the nature of the groin pull he had. He was damn good in almost every other game. Also remember that last year was only the first year that the offense was in place. Foles will regress but the team should play better as an offensive unit with another year under their belt. I've seen enough Eagle games up here to know that Shady, not punk-*** Jackson, makes this team go. I've seen Jackson shut down one on one with stat lines like 3 catches for 20 yards. He is the ultimate hit or miss receiver, and his influence is a bit overstated. Last night, Foles was throwing against the first team Patriot D most of the time and went 8-10, 81 yards and a TD. If one of his receivers didn't fumble away the first catch his line would have been better. DOn't underestimate this year's opponent based on last year's results.

McDaniels is the mastermind of the Patriots offense pretty much at every level, from design to calling. He definitely has a lot of what Kelly does and infused it. That said, the Patriots have always run a lot of spread and no-huddle, in the Brady era at least.
 

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Hurry up isn't the same as "no huddle". They were getting to the line with 15+ seconds on the clock. That's hurry up.

Anyone who could say, with a straight face, that the hurry up/no huddle helps defenses is either trolling, drunk, or has never played the game.
 

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Hurry up isn't the same as "no huddle". They were getting to the line with 15+ seconds on the clock. That's hurry up.

Anyone who could say, with a straight face, that the hurry up/no huddle helps defenses is either trolling, drunk, or has never played the game.

Think Dallas will run any plays not within four seconds of the end of the play clock? I don't think that aspect will change.

On the defensive side, I think down, position, and team's successes that game should go early into the defensive huddle.
 

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So now the Kelly hurry-up actually helps defenses because they don't have time to worry about trivial things like their technique and assignments?

LOL.

Seems to automatically negate all those formidable waves as well
 

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Proximo, just a reminder...this was my first post on your comment:

Don't ever discount an enemy, even if he is simple and presents a basic level of consideration. That tendency will end up getting one beat.
 

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I don't care if peoples feelings are going to be hurt. But Chip Kelly is a better coach than Garrett. I wish we would have selected him to coach here than someone who needs training wheels on how to coach.
 

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Think Dallas will run any plays not within four seconds of the end of the play clock? I don't think that aspect will change.

On the defensive side, I think down, position, and team's successes that game should go early into the defensive huddle.

Linehan likes to get to the line with a little more time because he calls more combination routes. The backs and receivers need time to diagnose. I think you'll see a high percentage of plays where they get to the line with around 10 seconds left.

The question will be whether or not Romo will effectively read the D an audible (or not) when the time is right. I want more emphasis on the running game, but I also don't want to completely neuter Romo.
 
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