Chris Johnson Support Thread

[SDogo]

McFadden, Jones, Rice, Forte..........

Can I get some love for my man Chris Johnson?

Has the size: 5'11" 195
Has the Speed: Sub 4.4
Has great hands
Electrifying returner
#1 in NCAA all-purpose yards with an average of 212 per game
1200 rushing yards
496 receiving yards
856 return yards
16 rushing TD's
3rd in Nation in points scored (22 TD's over all)

Anyone see the Hawaii Bowl? The kid took over! 408 all-purpose yards, 223 yards rushing with a TD, 3 pass receptions for 32 yards and six returns for 153 yards.

His stock is going to sky rocket after the combine.

He is not a 1 year wonder as many have suggested. He played all his JR year with a neck injury but still managed 972 all-purpose yards and averaged 23 yards per kick return.

As a Sophomore he had 684 yards on only 117 carries with 6 TD's and caught 35 passes for 356 yards

As a Freshman he had 561 rushing yards, 765 return yards and 1,562 all-purpose yards.

Yet he is not just fast but powerful as well. He had prep power numbers of 265 clean lift and 315 bench press as a Senior in High School.

He is the NFL's next and better Brian Westbrook. He could be the lightning to Barbers thunder and provide an all around weapon to the Cowboys team.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

yeah, he seems to be the guy everyone wants to kick around, and I don't mean throw his name out there, I mean literally kick around, in the RB discussion, I'm still on the bandwagon, just trying to pimp another runner, Georgia's Thomas Brown

hate you having Sam Baker in the 1st round

back to CJ, personally, I want a dynamic player for this O, and that can be Chris Johnson, throw a screen to him, and let him do his thing, line him up in the slot, design some stretch plays for him to carry the ball, if this guy's the next Bryan Westbrook, then get him

 

[SDogo]

yeah, he seems to be the guy everyone wants to kick around, and I don't mean throw his name out there, I mean literally kick around, in the RB discussion, I'm still on the bandwagon, just trying to pimp another runner, Georgia's Thomas Brown

hate you having Sam Baker in the 1st round

back to CJ, personally, I want a dynamic player for this O, and that can be Chris Johnson, throw a screen to him, and let him do his thing, line him up in the slot, design some stretch plays for him to carry the ball, if this guy's the next Bryan Westbrook, then get him

Funny you mention Brown because outside of Johnson and the rest of the names being thrown around he may be the next in line of dynamic RB's.

Sorry about Baker, I'm not sold on the selection either at this point but I don't see a WR in like in Round 1 outside of DeSean Jackson and while I would love to see Dallas take two DB's I don't see it happening.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Funny you mention Brown because outside of Johnson and the rest of the names being thrown around he may be the next in line of dynamic RB's.

Sorry about Baker, I'm not sold on the selection either at this point but I don't see a WR in like in Round 1 outside of DeSean Jackson and while I would love to see Dallas take two DB's I don't see it happening.

Baker is slow and soft, that would be a reach IMO

 

[SDogo]

Baker is slow and soft, that would be a reach IMO

His injury situation really dropped his stock. Not to long ago he was considered a top 15 pick. He is about the only one in my "homer mock" I'm not sold on myself though.

 

[TheCount]

His injury situation really dropped his stock. Not to long ago he was considered a top 15 pick. He is about the only one in my "homer mock" I'm not sold on myself though.

I doubt Hardy will be there at the end of the 3rd either.

 

[SDogo]

I doubt Hardy will be there at the end of the 3rd either.

It's not out of the question though. He's not going to blow anyone anyway with his work out's and his off the field issues and maturity could make him slide.

 

[masomenos]

I'm one of the people who kind of likes to "kick around" Chris Johnson, as Bob called it. I'm just not sold on the guy and think we should avoid him in the first round. However, in the second, where you have him slotted, I would be much more on board with the pick. And even if we drafted him in the second, I'd still like to see us go after a guy like Mewelde Moore in free agency.

At this point I'm just not fully convinced that Johnson would be able to handle the majority of the workload if Barber were to get hurt. I haven't seen enough evidence that would point to him being able to handle inside running at the NFL level. And I haven't seen evidence that he can be a serviceable blocker. That's why I'm gun shy of him in the 1st right now. Leading up to the draft, that could change, but for now that's what I see.

Count me on board for supporting Johnson in the second though.

 

[Bizwah]

I don't really dislike Johnson....and I actually had us taking him in a couple of mock drafts I threw together.

But I'm beginning to really sour on him. Here's a guy that may have some toughness issues. His coaches had actually considered moving him to WR....now, I had read somewhere (can't remember where exactly) that it was due to the fact that he bounced everything outside and wouldn't run to the middle. That really sounds like a lack of toughness to me.

If that's the case, do you really want him on our team?

We struggled to get 3rd and 1s for several years. Can Chris Johnson move the pile well enough to get a 3rd and 1? Does he break tackles?

I admit I didn't see much of him this year. His highlight reel has him busting runs outside and outrunning everyone. He won't be doing that in the NFL. I would like to see reels of him taking on tacklers...getting the tough yards.

I'm sure he's an exciting player....he's certainly fast enough. But if there's one thing I learned a number of years ago, it's to not fall in love with a guy's forty time alone.

There are more talented RBs that are out there. They may not have as sexy a forty time, but they're better runners.

 

[tomson75]

I don't really dislike Johnson....and I actually had us taking him in a couple of mock drafts I threw together.

But I'm beginning to really sour on him. Here's a guy that may have some toughness issues. His coaches had actually considered moving him to WR....now, I had read somewhere (can't remember where exactly) that it was due to the fact that he bounced everything outside and wouldn't run to the middle. That really sounds like a lack of toughness to me.

If that's the case, do you really want him on our team?

We struggled to get 3rd and 1s for several years. Can Chris Johnson move the pile well enough to get a 3rd and 1? Does he break tackles?

I admit I didn't see much of him this year. His highlight reel has him busting runs outside and outrunning everyone. He won't be doing that in the NFL. I would like to see reels of him taking on tacklers...getting the tough yards.

I'm sure he's an exciting player....he's certainly fast enough. But if there's one thing I learned a number of years ago, it's to not fall in love with a guy's forty time alone.

There are more talented RBs that are out there. They may not have as sexy a forty time, but they're better runners.

I'm coming to the same conclusions. I wouldn't be opposed to picking him in the late second. I'd be stoked to get him in the third, but his stock is dropping in my book...not that I'm an expert on the guy. I just started watching him a few months ago.

I'm starting to like Jamaal Charles more, despite being a ******.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I don't really dislike Johnson....and I actually had us taking him in a couple of mock drafts I threw together.

But I'm beginning to really sour on him. Here's a guy that may have some toughness issues. His coaches had actually considered moving him to WR....now, I had read somewhere (can't remember where exactly) that it was due to the fact that he bounced everything outside and wouldn't run to the middle. That really sounds like a lack of toughness to me.

that, or he just likes to bounce runs outside, trying to get the home-run hit

it's not uncommon for fast college players to try to break runs outside, to get around the corner, look at what BP was trying to hammer into our backs, that running east-west is a good bet to lose yards, and I wouldn't call Marion soft, alot of his runs are him trying to bounce it outside between the T and G, earlier in his career, it was tring to get outside the T

We struggled to get 3rd and 1s for several years. Can Chris Johnson move the pile well enough to get a 3rd and 1? Does he break tackles?

hopefully our team isn't dumb enough to take Marion Barber out of that role

I admit I didn't see much of him this year. His highlight reel has him busting runs outside and outrunning everyone. He won't be doing that in the NFL. I would like to see reels of him taking on tacklers...getting the tough yards.

sometimes you're just not going to find that in rookie backs, Tiki Barber and Bryan Westbrook weren't big on getting yards after contact earlier in their careers, but they learned how to do be acceptable at it, and most of Westbrook's runs aren't him breaking tackles

the thing about CJ is is that he has a compact build, being 5'10" 200 w/ a good muscle build, that's good for being able to bounce off hits, and if he can learn how to position his body to do that more effectively, I think he'll be alright

improving his vision, which comes w/ experience also will help him in that facet

I'm sure he's an exciting player....he's certainly fast enough. But if there's one thing I learned a number of years ago, it's to not fall in love with a guy's forty time alone.

you also shouldn't be afraid of it

There are more talented RBs that are out there. They may not have as sexy a forty time, but they're better runners.

I think you mean that there are more pure runners than Chris, but he's up there in terms of talent

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I will give you that CJ needs to learn how to block, and has to want to block

and needs to improve his vision

 

[TellerMorrow34]

My biggest concern about him, the blocking isn't an issue, to me, cause most of the time when he's in there you've got to figure he's not going to be doing a lot of blocking but more running and catching, is that he's fumble prone. I'm quite worried about his ability to tuck the ball away.

Sure, that can be learned, but it would concern me until he does learn it, which, honestly, by the time you're in college you should have learned how important it is to put the ball away and how to do it. That's just my take on ball handling, anyway.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

My biggest concern about him, the blocking isn't an issue, to me, cause most of the time when he's in there you've got to figure he's not going to be doing a lot of blocking but more running and catching, is that he's fumble prone. I'm quite worried about his ability to tuck the ball away.

Sure, that can be learned, but it would concern me until he does learn it, which, honestly, by the time you're in college you should have learned how important it is to put the ball away and how to do it. That's just my take on ball handling, anyway.

fumbling can be attributed to numerous things, maybe the guys sweats too much, maybe he's not careful in how he carries it, but you're right, it's a worry, and it can be corrected, some backs it takes longer to get it down

Ahman Green and Tiki Barber to name a couple of guys, it may not completely go away, look at Romo, dude is a fumble waiting to happen sometimes, but hopefully he can correct it enough to where it doesn't plague him and the team he's on

idk, get the guys some sleeves lol

 

[theogt]

I will be disappointed if we draft him.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I will be disappointed if we draft him.

I love melodramatic posting

 

[DaBoys4Life]

this guy is a kick returner yet he lacks vision something i don't understand. You don't have to break a gillion tackles to be consider a good RB. Tiki Barber used to have a fumbling problem and that was corrected. Blocking can be taught. So the two biggest complaints on him can be corrected. Speed can't be taught outside of DMac he's the most talented RB in the draft. This go will be a headache for oppossing Defensive coodniators. and he had 1400 rushing yards not 1200

 

[Hong2221]

No! Ray Rice!

 

[theogt]

No! Ray Rice!

Ray Rice is clearly the better option.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Ray Rice is clearly the better option.

I strongly disagree