Circumstances and Luck

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Anyone who does not believe that luck plays a factor in winning a super bowl id delusional. There are too many factors that can derail a season. A missed/overturned call (Dez v. Packers). A refereee who wants to kill your momentum (Dallas v Packers II).

But there are other kinds of luck which come into play as well. Lynch not getting drafted. Connor Cook getting ripped out from under us. Dak still being on the clock when we got all the way down to our comp pick in the 4th is another.

But it goes even deeper than that. Last year if Romo stays upright, maybe we hoist another Lombardi last year and Romo gets the monkey off of his back. Or if you want to play it the other way, if Romo doesn't suffer the season ending/career ending injury, and Kellen Moore doesn't get IR'ed maybe Dak doesn't see the field last year.

Or let's take it one step further, which really isn't outside the realm of possibilities last year. Let's say Romo had stayed healthy, and so did Moore. Would we have taken a chance that our compensatory pick would clear waivers and make it all the way through to the practice squad? Maybe. We have seen that movie before, with a QB that we reportedly liked more than dak ..... and it didn't work out so well, with that QB getting claimed. Wouldn't the landscape look a lot different in Dallas now?
 

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Anyone who does not believe that luck plays a factor in winning a super bowl id delusional. There are too many factors that can derail a season. A missed/overturned call (Dez v. Packers). A refereee who wants to kill your momentum (Dallas v Packers II).

But there are other kinds of luck which come into play as well. Lynch not getting drafted. Connor Cook getting ripped out from under us. Dak still being on the clock when we got all the way down to our comp pick in the 4th is another.

But it goes even deeper than that. Last year if Romo stays upright, maybe we hoist another Lombardi last year and Romo gets the monkey off of his back. Or if you want to play it the other way, if Romo doesn't suffer the season ending/career ending injury, and Kellen Moore doesn't get IR'ed maybe Dak doesn't see the field last year.

Or let's take it one step further, which really isn't outside the realm of possibilities last year. Let's say Romo had stayed healthy, and so did Moore. Would we have taken a chance that our compensatory pick would clear waivers and make it all the way through to the practice squad? Maybe. We have seen that movie before, with a QB that we reportedly liked more than dak ..... and it didn't work out so well, with that QB getting claimed. Wouldn't the landscape look a lot different in Dallas now?
Life is full of ifs and buts. And I agree that luck is a part of it all. So many important games turn on a single play and that single play all too often turns on a very minor difference.
What if Jackie Smith catches that touchdown pass? It was so close.
 

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Kind of like the game, a ball that bounces awkwardly and can move through the air as a wounded bird. That being played on a carpet.
 

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Kind of like the game, a ball that bounces awkwardly and can move through the air as a wounded bird. That being played on a carpet.
Cowboys had a lot of close games that they managed escaping with the W. No guarantee that happens again.
Hopefully the offense works even better and the D steps up it's game so things don't have to fall upon a chance bounce so much.
 

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Anyone who does not believe that luck plays a factor in winning a super bowl id delusional. There are too many factors that can derail a season. A missed/overturned call (Dez v. Packers). A refereee who wants to kill your momentum (Dallas v Packers II).

But there are other kinds of luck which come into play as well. Lynch not getting drafted. Connor Cook getting ripped out from under us. Dak still being on the clock when we got all the way down to our comp pick in the 4th is another.

But it goes even deeper than that. Last year if Romo stays upright, maybe we hoist another Lombardi last year and Romo gets the monkey off of his back. Or if you want to play it the other way, if Romo doesn't suffer the season ending/career ending injury, and Kellen Moore doesn't get IR'ed maybe Dak doesn't see the field last year.

Or let's take it one step further, which really isn't outside the realm of possibilities last year. Let's say Romo had stayed healthy, and so did Moore. Would we have taken a chance that our compensatory pick would clear waivers and make it all the way through to the practice squad? Maybe. We have seen that movie before, with a QB that we reportedly liked more than dak ..... and it didn't work out so well, with that QB getting claimed. Wouldn't the landscape look a lot different in Dallas now?

Sure, if you narrow it down to individual events; however, people or organizations can put themselves in position to have a good chance at being "Lucky".

They Cowboys luck in drafting Prescott might not have been obvious if not for the great OL that made it much more likely for him to have success.

The Cleveland Brown could have drafted Dak any likely they wouldn't have been that lucky because they would have found a way to cause him to fail.

Teams that have luck in the playoffs are the ones that are actually in the playoffs. The more often they are there, the more likely they are to have some "Luck".

The Cowboys preparation was a big part of their "Luck" with Dak. The met with him more than any other player prior to the draft.


Jimmy Johnson said "You make your own luck". I didn't understand that statement at the time, but now I see it as I described above.

Some people might consider the Green Bay - Dez - No Catch ruling as Bad Luck; however, if Dez had been smart enough to know that catching the ball was way more important than scoring a TD, he would likely have been able to secure the ball and the refs would never have been involved. Dez caused the Bad Luck.
 

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Anyone who does not believe that luck plays a factor in winning a super bowl id delusional. There are too many factors that can derail a season. A missed/overturned call (Dez v. Packers). A refereee who wants to kill your momentum (Dallas v Packers II).

But there are other kinds of luck which come into play as well. Lynch not getting drafted. Connor Cook getting ripped out from under us. Dak still being on the clock when we got all the way down to our comp pick in the 4th is another.

But it goes even deeper than that. Last year if Romo stays upright, maybe we hoist another Lombardi last year and Romo gets the monkey off of his back. Or if you want to play it the other way, if Romo doesn't suffer the season ending/career ending injury, and Kellen Moore doesn't get IR'ed maybe Dak doesn't see the field last year.

Or let's take it one step further, which really isn't outside the realm of possibilities last year. Let's say Romo had stayed healthy, and so did Moore. Would we have taken a chance that our compensatory pick would clear waivers and make it all the way through to the practice squad? Maybe. We have seen that movie before, with a QB that we reportedly liked more than dak ..... and it didn't work out so well, with that QB getting claimed. Wouldn't the landscape look a lot different in Dallas now?

There is only one point I will disagree with on this and it was your last one. I don't think the Cowboys would have gone in to the season with less than 3 QB's had Romo not been injured, which would suggest that Kellen and Dak were pretty much locks going in to training camp. And I don't think the Cowboys would have cut Dak, considering he was a fourth round pick.

But other than that, I absolutely agree with your entire premise. Luck played a very significant part in last years storybook season.
 

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There is only one point I will disagree with on this and it was your last one. I don't think the Cowboys would have gone in to the season with less than 3 QB's had Romo not been injured, which would suggest that Kellen and Dak were pretty much locks going in to training camp. And I don't think the Cowboys would have cut Dak, considering he was a fourth round pick.

But other than that, I absolutely agree with your entire premise. Luck played a very significant part in last years storybook season.
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Anyone who does not believe that luck plays a factor in winning a super bowl id delusional. There are too many factors that can derail a season. A missed/overturned call (Dez v. Packers). A refereee who wants to kill your momentum (Dallas v Packers II).

But there are other kinds of luck which come into play as well. Lynch not getting drafted. Connor Cook getting ripped out from under us. Dak still being on the clock when we got all the way down to our comp pick in the 4th is another.

But it goes even deeper than that. Last year if Romo stays upright, maybe we hoist another Lombardi last year and Romo gets the monkey off of his back. Or if you want to play it the other way, if Romo doesn't suffer the season ending/career ending injury, and Kellen Moore doesn't get IR'ed maybe Dak doesn't see the field last year.

Or let's take it one step further, which really isn't outside the realm of possibilities last year. Let's say Romo had stayed healthy, and so did Moore. Would we have taken a chance that our compensatory pick would clear waivers and make it all the way through to the practice squad? Maybe. We have seen that movie before, with a QB that we reportedly liked more than dak ..... and it didn't work out so well, with that QB getting claimed. Wouldn't the landscape look a lot different in Dallas now?
Yes, and no.

Sure, we damn sure got lucky to get Dak. The Cowboys let him pass by over and over before finally drafting him on a lark. That goes for all 32 teams.

But once he got here, I fully believe he would have flashed in preseason because he's just good. No, he wouldn't have played if Romo was healthy, but he'd be a certain No. 2 this year with some buzz about him.

His intangibles stand out. So even if his career was not yet launched, we'd be more than just a little intrigued.

How stinking lucky were we to have Romo, especially when you consider they were going to cut him if Quincy didn't get busted for pot? How lucky are the Patriots for going to 7 Super Bowls with a 6th-round QB? Kurt Warner, Warren Moon, Drew Brees, Russell Wilson...the league has made a lot of mistakes on QBs.
 

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Anyone who does not believe that luck plays a factor in winning a super bowl id delusional. There are too many factors that can derail a season. A missed/overturned call (Dez v. Packers). A refereee who wants to kill your momentum (Dallas v Packers II).

But there are other kinds of luck which come into play as well. Lynch not getting drafted. Connor Cook getting ripped out from under us. Dak still being on the clock when we got all the way down to our comp pick in the 4th is another.

But it goes even deeper than that. Last year if Romo stays upright, maybe we hoist another Lombardi last year and Romo gets the monkey off of his back. Or if you want to play it the other way, if Romo doesn't suffer the season ending/career ending injury, and Kellen Moore doesn't get IR'ed maybe Dak doesn't see the field last year.

Or let's take it one step further, which really isn't outside the realm of possibilities last year. Let's say Romo had stayed healthy, and so did Moore. Would we have taken a chance that our compensatory pick would clear waivers and make it all the way through to the practice squad? Maybe. We have seen that movie before, with a QB that we reportedly liked more than dak ..... and it didn't work out so well, with that QB getting claimed. Wouldn't the landscape look a lot different in Dallas now?

Maybe a little luck. Football unlike the other sports is a 1 game winner move on loser goes home. However I think 90% percent of luck is being prepared which is why teams like NE continue to put a winner out there, clearly more than just luck. Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity "Seneca"
 

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Maybe a little luck. Football unlike the other sports is a 1 game winner move on loser goes home. However I think 90% percent of luck is being prepared which is why teams like NE continue to put a winner out there, clearly more than just luck. Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity "Seneca"

luck to me is more on an individual play. Like Jackie Smith dropping a catch he would have made 99 other times. Or the ball just bouncing the right way to a LB who then runs it in for a TD.
 

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luck to me is more on an individual play. Like Jackie Smith dropping a catch he would have made 99 other times. Or the ball just bouncing the right way to a LB who then runs it in for a TD.
The Patriots have been awfully lucky then.
 

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Sure, if you narrow it down to individual events; however, people or organizations can put themselves in position to have a good chance at being "Lucky".

They Cowboys luck in drafting Prescott might not have been obvious if not for the great OL that made it much more likely for him to have success.

The Cleveland Brown could have drafted Dak any likely they wouldn't have been that lucky because they would have found a way to cause him to fail.

Teams that have luck in the playoffs are the ones that are actually in the playoffs. The more often they are there, the more likely they are to have some "Luck".

The Cowboys preparation was a big part of their "Luck" with Dak. The met with him more than any other player prior to the draft.


Jimmy Johnson said "You make your own luck". I didn't understand that statement at the time, but now I see it as I described above.

Some people might consider the Green Bay - Dez - No Catch ruling as Bad Luck; however, if Dez had been smart enough to know that catching the ball was way more important than scoring a TD, he would likely have been able to secure the ball and the refs would never have been involved. Dez caused the Bad Luck.
Chance favors the prepared mind.

~ Louis Pasteur ~

One of my all time favorite quotes.
 
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