Clarence Hill comments on 105.3

[Reid1boys]

You'll have Brown for that. Just from the practice squad.

Well lets see, verbatim I doubt see him clearing waivers. I'll eat crow if I'm wrong. Jimmy Smith...damn, why did that name just come to me?

 

[BlindFaith]

Come on now. You were all up on Woods.

Hes JAG.

 

[gimmesix]

Dallas doesn't care. They have Pickens, Lamb, Flournoy, and Turpin.

Brown will never play.

The Dolphins need picks, not players. That's a rebuild.

For my latest 53, players I cut to keep Brown would include Sam Williams, Tyrus Wheat and Justin Barron. A case can be made for each for special teams, but Williams and Wheat would be our sixth DE/OLB. How many can we dress? Barron would be our fifth inside linebacker. How many can we dress?

Frankly, I'd cut Nate Thomas or Drew Shelton (and try to put him on the PS) and keep one of those three, but I don't expect Dallas to do that. I think Thomas is the backup tackle for Week 1 at least as Jones learns the scheme and I don't think they want to risk a fourth-round pick to waivers.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Really? Has he been a good second round pick for us? I must've been in a coma or something.

The Cowboys like Schoonmaker. And honestly, most people inside the building really do like him. Outside the building? That's a different story.

I think the disconnect is that the fans had one expectation for Schoonmaker, while the Cowboys had another. He wasn't drafted to be a pass-catching TE first and foremost. That doesn't mean he can't catch the ball — we've seen that he can, especially when Ferguson was out. Look at what Schoonmaker did when he was actually given a larger role. But too many fans look at his career stats, see the lack of production, and immediately conclude, "HE SUCKS." That's the wrong criteria.

If you're going to judge Schoonmaker, judge him on what Dallas actually drafted him to do: block, handle multiple responsibilities, play in-line, contribute in the run game, and be a dependable all-around tight end. And he has started 13 games the last 2 years. You can argue whether he's lived up to that role. That's fair.

But judging him primarily by receiving yards and catches misses the entire point of why the Cowboys drafted him in the first place.

 

[buybuydandavis]

3. Camden Brown will not play this year anyway, so he will be cut and put on the practice squad of possible. Receivers are a dime a dozen, so he likely won't be claimed.

Clarence is high.

Raiders, Colts, Seahawks and Panthers will all be looking to claim a WR tomorrow night.

The fact that Mingo, who stole money for the last year and a half and also stole a 4th round pick, might make this team at the expense of Brown seems crazy to me.

Mingo on a 1 year deal for veteran minimum.
If Brown is likely to be taken, then this is a Win Now move or they're just not as excited about Brown as fans are from the preseason games.
Brown is on a rookie UDFA deal. If he can be a player, that's not a contract you want to lose, especially for a 1 year veteran min guy.

 

[buybuydandavis]

The Cowboys like Schoonmaker. And honestly, most people inside the building really do like him. Outside the building? That's a different story.

I think the disconnect is that the fans had one expectation for Schoonmaker, while the Cowboys had another. He wasn't drafted to be a pass-catching TE first and foremost. That doesn't mean he can't catch the ball — we've seen that he can, especially when Ferguson was out. Look at what Schoonmaker did when he was actually given a larger role. But too many fans look at his career stats, see the lack of production, and immediately conclude, "HE SUCKS." That's the wrong criteria.

If you're going to judge Schoonmaker, judge him on what Dallas actually drafted him to do: block, handle multiple responsibilities, play in-line, contribute in the run game, and be a dependable all-around tight end. And he has started 13 games the last 2 years. You can argue whether he's lived up to that role. That's fair.

But judging him primarily by receiving yards and catches misses the entire point of why the Cowboys drafted him in the first place.

2nd round pick for a blocking TE role player?
Nah.
They expected more. Didn't get it. Keep him because he is useful and the pick is sunk cost.

 

[gimmesix]

The Cowboys like Schoonmaker. And honestly, most people inside the building really do like him. Outside the building? That's a different story.

I think the disconnect is that the fans had one expectation for Schoonmaker, while the Cowboys had another. He wasn't drafted to be a pass-catching TE first and foremost. That doesn't mean he can't catch the ball — we've seen that he can, especially when Ferguson was out. Look at what Schoonmaker did when he was actually given a larger role. But too many fans look at his career stats, see the lack of production, and immediately conclude, "HE SUCKS." That's the wrong criteria.

If you're going to judge Schoonmaker, judge him on what Dallas actually drafted him to do: block, handle multiple responsibilities, play in-line, contribute in the run game, and be a dependable all-around tight end. And he has started 13 games the last 2 years. You can argue whether he's lived up to that role. That's fair.

But judging him primarily by receiving yards and catches misses the entire point of why the Cowboys drafted him in the first place.

I don't know if I completely agree with this. At the time Schoonmaker was drafted, we had no proven No. 1 tight end. We had let Schultz leave in free agency and while there was some promising moments by Ferguson and Hendershot, we had no idea if either could be the man. We drafted Schoonmaker to compete to be the man, but Ferguson stepped seized the role and Schoonmaker became the blocking tight end. I think they thought from the start that he could be an all-around tight ends, and in fact, he may be better suited for that role than blocking TE, which is why Spann-Ford has surpassed him for that role.

Now, I don't blame Schoonmaker for falling behind Ferguson as a rookie and then that door shutting on him. I think he'll do better elsewhere when given the opportunity, like Marty B did when he got out of Witten's shadow. He's made to be a starting tight end IMO where he can block well enough as a receiving option instead of primarily being just a blocking tight end.