Clue to Romo and Roy not being on same page

[UnoDallas]

This is intelligent. You would just rather the team has to eat a big contract and we get less production out of our other WR?

This does not make sense. Romo and Roy must get on the same page. Would be a very bad situation for the team if they didn't.

well what we heard all off seasony was how well they were getting in stride

I still don't see it

he has 12 catches in 6 games - 2 today that he dropped

hard telling how many he missed this year

 

[Tusan_Homichi]

He is open. He was open on at least 5 plays today. Unfortunately, one of them, he pushed off right in front of the ref. On two others, he merely dropped the ball.

I just think it's a timing/trust issue. The timing because I don't think he's consistent with his routes. I can't really back that up, but just looking at replays he looks a bit soft with his route running. And trust because well, while he does make some nice grabs occasionally, he does drop some easy ones.

 

[RS12]

To all the RW apologists, why is it that everybody else Romo throws to, seems to be where they are supposed to be, when they are supposed to be, except RW?

 

[RS12]

Maybe you got a point there. But I am not sure like Romo and Roy have been saying, they are getting close. Because Romo did target Roy few more times than normal and he was open. Either he dropped it, which he admitted he sucked today to his credit ( Note: TO would never have there), or Romo was off on his throws to Roy.

I am still hopeful. I don't think Roy is great, but he is not bad as many fans think.

When Romo stopped trying to force the ball to RW today (ala TO) the offense started to click. Just the facts.

 

[Vintage]

Are the same people clamoring for the benching of Roy (for Olgetree? Gotta be kidding me....) the same that wanted Romo benched for Kitna?

LOL. Would be curious to see if it was the same crew.

Olgetree. That's funny.

His hype is putting Amendola's to shame.

 

[Bleu Star]

Are the same people clamoring for the benching of Roy (for Olgetree? Gotta be kidding me....) the same that wanted Romo benched for Kitna?

No. Try again.

 

[viman96]

IMO it will not get much better if any this year. With Austin stepping up big Romo is looking for him now.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

To all the RW apologists, why is it that everybody else Romo throws to, seems to be where they are supposed to be, when they are supposed to be, except RW?

my question is, is Roy really that bad of a route runner, that he's worse than 2nd year players like Mario Manningham and DeSean Jackson at running his routes?

 

[Cochese]

This is intelligent. You would just rather the team has to eat a big contract and we get less production out of our other WR?

This does not make sense. Romo and Roy must get on the same page. Would be a very bad situation for the team if they didn't.

I never said I wanted them to eat the contract, but the fact is that Roy is not a very good player. I dont care if he gets the ball.

 

[casmith07]

Seems like, from Romo's post game brief interview with Tiki is a good indicator as to why Romo and Roy are not on same page. Romo said, that Austin makes his cuts the right way and makes it easy for him to throw to, when asked about that chemistry.

Which means, I am guessing, Romo is not liking or still not in sync with Roy Williams route running, even though at times it seems like Roy is wide open. Now it doesn't help if Roy drops balls that he did today, which normally Roy doesn't.

But at some point, Roy and Tony will have to get on same page, since Austin will be double teamed pretty soon. Or Best CB on opposing team will start to cover Austin.

Roy has longer, more loping strides despite being very fast. If you look at his longer catch and run from earlier, you can tell that Romo still is getting used to him - the ball was thrown well out in front.

It might take longer than Zoners would like, but I think that with time we will be fine. One can only stay optimistic and keep rooting for the team!!

 

[Daudr]

Are the same people clamoring for the benching of Roy (for Olgetree? Gotta be kidding me....) the same that wanted Romo benched for Kitna?

LOL. Would be curious to see if it was the same crew.

Olgetree. That's funny.

His hype is putting Amendola's to shame.

Babe Laufenberg certainly believes in him. On the radio broadcast today he was commenting that he really hopes Ogletree can get on the field this season because he believes he will be a special player and a big time producer on the field.

 

[windward]

Exactly correct. And Aikman used to catch grief about it from fans too. I remember arguments about that and comparison between Aikman and Farve about turning WRs into players etc., no matter the garbage that Aikman was throwing to.

Yeah when Irvin went down in 96 vs Carolina, all we had left was KMart, Deion and Kevin Williams.

Ugh.

 

[kmd24]

my question is, is Roy really that bad of a route runner, that he's worse than 2nd year players like Mario Manningham and DeSean Jackson at running his routes?

Unfortunately, yes, he is poor at running certain routes.

He's fine running slants and skinny posts, but hitches, arrows, stuff that requires a quick and clean cut, not so much. It has to do with the length of his stride I think.

 

[T-RO]

We ate the contract on Roy the moment Jerry gave the farm and $9 mil a season to a mediocre player.

It's already wasted money. It only makes it more of a waste when you try to force him into the equation.

If it happens (Roy-mo chemistry) great. But don't lose games forcing it.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Not surprised... It has been blatantly obvious to me for awhile now. Romo is not going to toss it to someone that isn't consistently where he is supposed to be. Does anyone here see it as a coincidence that the moment Tony stops keying on RW11 that his INTs disappear? Hrmmm.

Leave Roy as the 2nd option where he belongs.

No, I don't really see that. I have not charted all of Tony's INTs but it seems to me that the majority of Tony's INTs were because of poor throws. High or behind receivers. If I had to point to something, I'd point to the fact that the Pass Protection has improved. We gave up two sacks today, which is not horrible but also not great. I think we gave up 1 sack against KC. Romo just looks more comfortable in the pocket to me, on passing situations. Could be that he's had time the heal or it could be that the emergence of Austin is creating more opportunities in the passing tame. I believe that it's probably a combination of both.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

well what we heard all off seasony was how well they were getting in stride

I still don't see it

he has 12 catches in 6 games - 2 today that he dropped

hard telling how many he missed this year

What I heard, mostly from this board, was that we were going to win with no problems. That we were Super Bowl good. We may end up being that but to this point, I don't think that's been the case. Point being, you can't put faith in what you hear. It has to happen on the field or it's just talk.

 

[Eskimo]

Roy just looks lazy out there. All this talk about dialing 911, gimme a break.

Our second tight end was more productive than him today. Id really consider starting Austin/Crayton.

Bingo!

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Well, it's got to be partially his route running. Just to my eye, it's obvious that he's not real sharp out of his cuts.

I think this is true. Roy has never been a fantastic route runner. He has always been a guy who makes plays because of his wealth of physical skills. Like anybody, if he wants to become the #1 WR on this team, that is an area he will have to improve on. I do, however, think it's imprortant to understand that he is probably playing with a rib injury still. Lets see how the game comes to him over the next couple of weeks. As his physical condition improves, he may improve on his drops.

 

[Frosty]

RW is what he is, a productive route runner at best, and that is a good thing. Yet, its a big reach to assume a solid route runner is worth a 1st and 3rd plus $9 million a year...I like RW but he is what he is....



BIO: Made a major impact on the Texas program as a freshman and has won varying degrees of all-conference honors since the 2000 season. Led Texas in receiving the past three seasons, most recently totaling 70/1,079/9 in '03 after 64/1,142/12 as a junior when he set a school record for touchdown receptions. Sophomore totals included 67/836/7 after 40/809/8 in 2000, when he was tabbed Big 12 Offensive Freshman of the Year.

POSITIVES: Big, playmaking receiver that is a scoring threat every time he handles the ball. Quickly gets off the line and defeats jams by opponents, has a burst of speed and runs solid routes. Sharp into patterns, stays low on exit and immediately positions himself to make the reception. Shields defenders from the action with his large frame and protects the pass, quickly transitioning up the field after the reception. Extends his hands, offers the quarterback a nice target and comes down with the ball in a crowd. Tough to cover and easily separates from opponents. Picks up positive yardage running with the ball and is both elusive and strong. Makes the reception in stride running laterally, has excellent deep speed yet controls the game as a possession receiver in the underneath coverage. Also intelligent and knows where the chains are on third down. Effective blocker when focused on the task at hand.

NEGATIVES: Does not always play with a sense of urgency and comes across as a prospect that will take it or leave it. Does not always attack blocking assignments. Bothered by hamstring injuries throughout his junior campaign. Does not always show up for the big game.

ANALYSIS: A receiver that dominates, Williams possesses the physical skills that warrant a very early selection at the top of the draft, but he does not come across as someone that always plays like the game is on the line. Possessing more upside than any player in this draft, Williams will be a value pick anywhere after the third choice if he plays to his level.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I never said I wanted them to eat the contract, but the fact is that Roy is not a very good player. I dont care if he gets the ball.

You said, "Roy is garbage". You said, "I'm not sure that I ever want Tony on the same page".

Those are clearly different statments then what you've made above. However, the one above does not make good sense either. The more Roy catches, the more difficult our offense is to stop. I want Roy to be very succesful because I want my team to win. To me, it's as simple as that.