CM Punk signs multi-fight deal with UFC

[jrumann59]

Good luck to him but let's call this what it is.

He's setting up his WWE return in a year or two with a contract similar to what Lesnar gets to do. That's all this is.

They're going to bring him in and let him fight some other older, not super skilled people, and his plan, and hope, will be that he wins a couple of fights on the 'big stage' of MMA.

When that happens he'll be able to walk right back into the WWE and do things basically the way Lesnar does and the WWE will pay him to do so and give him the wins he was looking for and the main events he was looking for to begin with.

If anyone listened to his podcast with Colt Cabana you saw this coming a mile away. He dropped so many hints about this type of stuff it's comical. This isn't a serious attempt to be a long term, big time, big name MMA fighter.

It's using his popularity to get a couple of fights against people equally inexperienced in the sport to try and get a couple of wins in real fights so that the WWE has to book him as a legit tough guy and let him do basically what he wants.

Just like Lesnar.

I get that, he wasn't my favorite wrestler, but I consider him a hypocrite. Cena and Orton, love them or hate them they still go through the grind

 

[BoysFan4ever]

I have a hard time understanding why anybody would want to get their brains bashed in & face rearranged under the guise of sports. I realize there is a ton of athletic skill involved but that MMA/UFC stuff is just too harsh for me.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I did not follow wrestling when he was there.

However I have heard quite a few interviews with him in various podcasts.

I don't really think he is doing this to set up a return. I frankly don't think lesnar did it to return either.

Now whether it happens after some time is a different story, but I don't think this is a planned thing to do for him.

I think he really does not like the "professional" wrestling business.

 

[BAZ]

If Bret came back it's possible for anyone.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

If Bret came back it's possible for anyone.

yes it is possible for any of them to change their minds.

Point I was making is...at the time they left I really don't think they were thinking of leaving just to come back later.

Heck there have been other wrestlers in the business that had every intention of leaving and never coming back. Whether that be to how the WWE treated them, or because they physically did not think they could continue, or because they did not think they could mentally continue or a number of other reasons.

But time passes and things change and some come back. Still does not mean they planned it all along and I really do not think that was or is the plan like one of the posters was trying to pass off. I just do not believe it.

 

[BAZ]

Punk just got fired on his wedding day, Owen Heart was killed in the ring. Brooks is mad now. But when he gets his assessment kicked I imagine his career options will be limited. Who really wants to read a Thor comic written by him? It's great he thinks he has enough money. I wonder if his wife feels the same.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Never is a word that should never be used when it comes to retirement for celebs, athletes.

See what I did there?

 

[Rockport]

Some fake wrestler is going to enter UFC? Really? I hope he has insurance.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I did not follow wrestling when he was there.

However I have heard quite a few interviews with him in various podcasts.

I don't really think he is doing this to set up a return. I frankly don't think lesnar did it to return either.

Now whether it happens after some time is a different story, but I don't think this is a planned thing to do for him.

I think he really does not like the "professional" wrestling business.

Lesnar didn't. He simply capitalized on it afterwards.

I am certain Punk is in fact using it to set up a WWE return on a very limited contract, very much like Lesnar, that is going to pay him handsomely to come in, win big matches, and then sit at home for months on end.

 

[CyberB0b]

In one of the articles about his signing but you're right after looking it up he's never applied for a belt promotion which makes this even more bizzare

Unlike other martial arts, you can trace the lineage of every legit BJJ black belt. This guy is going to get wrecked. Lesnar was a legit all american wrestler.

 

[CashMan]

Lesnar didn't. He simply capitalized on it afterwards.

I am certain Punk is in fact using it to set up a WWE return on a very limited contract, very much like Lesnar, that is going to pay him handsomely to come in, win big matches, and then sit at home for months on end.

Go listen to his almost 2hr podcast with Colt Cabana. He says, the WWE doctors let him wrestle with a staph infection, in his back, and didn't tell him, and when he went to an independent doctor, the doctor was surprised he was still alive.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Go listen to his almost 2hr podcast with Colt Cabana. He says, the WWE doctors let him wrestle with a staph infection, in his back, and didn't tell him, and when he went to an independent doctor, the doctor was surprised he was still alive.

I did listen to this podcast. Which I've referenced already.

It's the same podcast where he made it very clear that after seeing what Lesnar has been allowed to do he's said "I want to be that guy."

He was speaking specifically about getting paid loads of money to barely show up and get the main events.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I don't consider Punk a hypocrite whatsoever. Getting MRSA because, in reality, they wanted him to work instead of resting and healing to get rid of it would be almost unforgivable for me. MRSA is a staph infection...people die from staph infections quite often. People have limbs amputated from staph infections.

He also routinely got screwed in pay-offs. In the 2nd series of the podcast he talks about being offered to go to a comic book show for a $20k appearance fee and the WWE begging him to work in Mexico which he said he would do...for $20k. After the work in Mexico was done, they sent him a check for....$5k. When Punk told them to fix the check....they gave him only...another $4k.

If people didn't know by now, they should know that Vince McMahon is a scumbag. And his goal is to bleed every wrestler he can dry. There's a reason why The Rock goes by Dwayne Johnson in the movies...the WWE would take 45% of his earnings if he goes by The Rock.

What Vince does is simple...he pays guys well enough so that it will be far more money in a short period of time that they could get in most 'normal jobs.' But, he doesn't pay them too well to where they can comfortably retire in the 30's, even if they are *the* main event star. That is unless you live like Austin, Punk or Foley who are notoriously thrifty with their money.

So, it keeps the typical wrestler tied to the company because they don't quite make enough money to retire for good when their body is broken down.

Anytime a wrestler takes a stand against Vince McMahon, they are usually more than in the right for doing so. And had wrestlers decided to do this years ago and unionize, they probably wouldn't have nearly the deaths they've had over the past 3 decades and would have far better working conditions so a wrestler like Punk isn't working with a staph infection.

Lastly, Punk said that he doesn't want to rule out a possibility of coming back, but he really has no intentions of coming back.




YR

 

[CashMan]

I did listen to this podcast. Which I've referenced already.

It's the same podcast where he made it very clear that after seeing what Lesnar has been allowed to do he's said "I want to be that guy."

He was speaking specifically about getting paid loads of money to barely show up and get the main events.

He kinda double talks. I like him, but on the other hand I don't. He talks about, how he could care less about money, but wants money. I think his problem, is he doesn't understand the political side of things, or doesn't care to play that game. Which is fine, but you can not have it both ways.

 

[CashMan]

I don't consider Punk a hypocrite whatsoever. Getting MRSA because, in reality, they wanted him to work instead of resting and healing to get rid of it would be almost unforgivable for me. MRSA is a staph infection...people die from staph infections quite often. People have limbs amputated from staph infections.

He also routinely got screwed in pay-offs. In the 2nd series of the podcast he talks about being offered to go to a comic book show for a $20k appearance fee and the WWE begging him to work in Mexico which he said he would do...for $20k. After the work in Mexico was done, they sent him a check for....$5k. When Punk told them to fix the check....they gave him only...another $4k.

If people didn't know by now, they should know that Vince McMahon is a scumbag. And his goal is to bleed every wrestler he can dry. There's a reason why The Rock goes by Dwayne Johnson in the movies...the WWE would take 45% of his earnings if he goes by The Rock.

What Vince does is simple...he pays guys well enough so that it will be far more money in a short period of time that they could get in most 'normal jobs.' But, he doesn't pay them too well to where they can comfortably retire in the 30's, even if they are *the* main event star. That is unless you live like Austin, Punk or Foley who are notoriously thrifty with their money.

So, it keeps the typical wrestler tied to the company because they don't quite make enough money to retire for good when their body is broken down.

Anytime a wrestler takes a stand against Vince McMahon, they are usually more than in the right for doing so. And had wrestlers decided to do this years ago and unionize, they probably wouldn't have nearly the deaths they've had over the past 3 decades and would have far better working conditions so a wrestler like Punk isn't working with a staph infection.

Lastly, Punk said that he doesn't want to rule out a possibility of coming back, but he really has no intentions of coming back.




YR

I don't know if he is a scum bag. He has people as independent contractors. Just like, if you were to go and hire, someone to put cabinets in your house. Does that make you a bad person? I would say no.

He is running a business, plain and simple. Now, does that mean, sometimes he doesn't have to be nasty about decisions? IDK. Use the WWE as they use you, write books, promote your self, use it as a spring board, like The Rock.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I don't know if he is a scum bag. He has people as independent contractors. Just like, if you were to go and hire, someone to put cabinets in your house. Does that make you a bad person? I would say no.

But, they are not true independent contractors. They are told where they are to work and cannot work for anybody else. If I hired somebody to put cabinets in my house and wrote specifically in the contract that this cabinet maker could not work for Jim, Steve and Tony down the street while they were working for me...they wouldn't be an independent contractor.

The MRSA deal with Punk is really nothing new in McMahon's world except it was MRSA instead of concussions and injuries. As Punk said, the concussion tests are a joke.

He is running a business, plain and simple. Now, does that mean, sometimes he doesn't have to be nasty about decisions? IDK. Use the WWE as they use you, write books, promote your self, use it as a spring board, like The Rock.

A business where he makes promises and breaks them all of the time. A business where he punishes Owen Hart by having him take a zip line (knowing Hart was afraid of heights) and then helps provide Hart with such a crummy zip line and zip line company...that the guy falls to his death. Oh, and they still continued with the show.

A business where Jimmy Snuka kills his girlfriend in a case of domestic violence and he does everything possible to prevent Snuka from being charged with a crime.

Firing Punk on his wedding day is one of the lighter things he's done in 'running a business.'

The guy is a scumbag, plain and simple. Always has been.




YR

 

[Yakuza Rich]

He kinda double talks. I like him, but on the other hand I don't. He talks about, how he could care less about money, but wants money. I think his problem, is he doesn't understand the political side of things, or doesn't care to play that game. Which is fine, but you can not have it both ways.

He's not double talking. Of course he cares about money. He just isn't going to sell his soul and kill himself for it. There's a big difference.

And he wants what he is *owed*.

When a company comes up to you and tells you that they are willing to pay you $20k for just making an appearance and the WWE tells you that they desperately need you to work for them in Mexico and you say 'okay, I'll do it for $20k because that is what I would have gotten for the appearance' and the WWE *agrees* to pay you $20k and only pays you $5k...the WWE was the one that outright lied to you and broke a deal that you had agreed upon.

It doesn't make somebody a hypocrite to say The money that *they* are willing to pay me is not that important and demanding that you get paid for what you had agreed upon on previous deals. If you're afraid that makes you hypocritical, then it really just makes you a sucker because Vince McMahon will just keep on making deals and breaking them.




YR

 

[TellerMorrow34]

He kinda double talks. I like him, but on the other hand I don't. He talks about, how he could care less about money, but wants money. I think his problem, is he doesn't understand the political side of things, or doesn't care to play that game. Which is fine, but you can not have it both ways.

I agree.

I do believe his problem is that he understands the political side of it but doesn't want to play that game and doesn't believe he should have to.

Yet now he's realizing he simply has no choice if he's going to be in the positions he wants to be in. That's just unfortunately how it goes with the wrestling world.

 

[CashMan]

But, they are not true independent contractors. They are told where they are to work and cannot work for anybody else. If I hired somebody to put cabinets in my house and wrote specifically in the contract that this cabinet maker could not work for Jim, Steve and Tony down the street while they were working for me...they wouldn't be an independent contractor.

They are, you BOTH agreed to the contract. You can not agree to something, take money, then say, wait a minute, I dont agree to that contract.

 

[CashMan]

I agree.

I do believe his problem is that he understands the political side of it but doesn't want to play that game and doesn't believe he should have to.

Yet now he's realizing he simply has no choice if he's going to be in the positions he wants to be in. That's just unfortunately how it goes with the wrestling world.

He also doesn't understand, it doesn't matter, if you are the best wrestler, you should or shouldn't be the champ, it is about selling merchandise, and what the people want. Cena sells more than Daniel Bryan, and he doesnt understand.