CNNSI Don Banks: Wade is divorced from reality

[Goldenrichards83]

I'm sure coach Josh McDaniel of Denver wished he would have kept his mouth shut instead of creating the situation he has with Cutler. There is little to gain talking to the media the more you can down play a situation or avoid derogatory remarks the better off you are. The media is dying for Jones or Phillips to lash out over TO they are not going to do it there is no reason to do so.

See the problem is they want headlines that will fit their agenda. PHILLIPS BURIES TERREL OWENS OR PHILLIPS ADMITS TO IS A CANCER or my favorite THE MEDIA WAS RIGHT ABOUT TO ALL ALONG. Its so sad. When they don't get the soundbite their looking for they resort to articles like this.

 

[Doomsday101]

See the problem is they want headlines that will fit their agenda. PHILLIPS BURIES TERREL OWENS OR PHILLIPS ADMITS TO IS A CANCER or my favorite THE MEDIA WAS RIGHT ABOUT TO ALL ALONG. Its so sad. When they don't get the soundbite their looking for they resort to articles like this.

True. Let them draw their own conclusions to me it does not matter, people will say what they want but it will all come down to winning and losing. If Dallas wins no one will care about TO being released. I said from the start of the off-season if the staff feels they can work with TO then keep him if not then release him there reason is pretty simple for me to see. In the meantime Dallas still has some good young talent and some vets entering the prime of their careers, I think this team can still go out and compete for a title

 

[THUMPER]

I feel like this article is typical of a reporter who didn't get the dirt he wanted, so intead he's taking it out on his source.

Right on the money Bob! I was trying to figure out what I was feeling about the article and you nailed it!

 

[THUMPER]

That is exactly what he nailed.

How should he answer these questions? Like he had some marbles instead of "all is well" mumbo jumbo. If all is well, why is he gone? If all is well why did the team miss the playoffs?

Oh yeah, 13-3. There's your reality. Great marriage.

I couldn't resist it...

 

[Concord]

"And Tony's still 21-8 as a starter the last two years."

Yeah...Yeah.

"We were 13-3."

Blah...Blah...Blah.

Good Lord.

 

[khiladi]

Wade clearly stated that Romo is going to be better, precisely because of experience. He made it clear that has nothing to do with Terrell Owens. He said that Romo has been imporving for two years in his decision making process and it is going to continue. And guess what? Those two years, Terrell Owens was here. The article then tries to say in the very next paragraph that what Wade was saying is that Romo will be a better decision-maker because TO is not around. The article clearly is manipulating what Wade meant and it is one of the reasons Wade said the media is pretty much full of garbage. In fact, the one thing what one can most probably take from Wade is that he didn't want TO to leave considering he pretty much praised him as the best WR in football the last few years.

 

[DFWJC]

Right on the money Bob! I was trying to figure out what I was feeling about the article and you nailed it!

I agree...that was precisely what happened. He wanted more than he got from Wade so out comes the backlash.

Still, I think Wade could have said (whether we agree or not) that TO was a great player, but that he and Jerry felt the overall balance of the team could be better w/o TO. The ball would spread around more, a diverse running game (with backs also more involved in the passing game) could emerge, and with Tony just focusing on doing his job to help the team win and nothing more.

 

[Shake_Tiller]

I like Wade Phillips. He seems like a nice guy. I have always preferred it when a Texan is coaching the Cowboys. I think Phillips has been a bit better head coach in the past than some have acknowledged.

Having said that, Phillips seems to have lost brain cells daily.

This is a good opinion piece by Banks, whose work I enjoy only sporadically. His logic is sound. I'm beginning to think any commentator who doesn't bring sunshine and lollipops to the table will be branded here as an idiot.

 

[Idgit]

I like Wade Phillips. He seems like a nice guy. I have always preferred it when a Texan is coaching the Cowboys. I think Phillips has been a bit better head coach in the past than some have acknowledged.

Having said that, Phillips seems to have lost brain cells daily.

This is a good opinion piece by Banks, whose work I enjoy only sporadically. His logic is sound. I'm beginning to think any commentator who doesn't bring sunshine and lollipops to the table will be branded here as an idiot.

This is a good take, shaketiller. But check out the Breer thread and you'll see several of the posters in here that think Banks is hacking agreeing completely with the criticism of Phillips in that piece.

Surprisingly, Jones brought Phillips back after last year's 9-7 debacle in Dallas, but in essence told him to start cracking the whip a bit more on his players. Phillips promised to amend his laid-back ways, but he's not letting us in on any of his changes just yet.

"Obviously, there've been change already,'' said Phillips, alluding to moves that are not quite so obvious to me, unless he means Owens' departure.

This excerpt here is a good example of how Banks is being intentionally unfair. You can make a case that Phillips isn't the man to coach the Cowboys without pretending there haven't already been a ton of changes to the team this offseason already. Releasing two of your three coordinators and dumping TO, Pacman and Tank I think all qualify as changes in this team's direction.

 

[Next_years_Champs]

This excerpt here is a good example of how Banks is being intentionally unfair. You can make a case that Phillips isn't the man to coach the Cowboys without pretending there haven't already been a ton of changes to the team this offseason already. Releasing two of your three coordinators and dumping TO, Pacman and Tank I think all qualify as changes in this team's direction.

Yeah I agree if the changes that have gone on since the end of the season aren't apparent to Don Banks I suggest he is too ignorant and his opinion is about as important as mine. But hey many fans on this board are just as blind to the changes going on so I'm not surprised.

 

[Idgit]

Yeah I agree if the changes that have gone on since the end of the season aren't apparent to Don Banks I suggest he is too ignorant and his opinion is about as important as mine. But hey many fans on this board are just as blind to the changes going on so I'm not surprised.

On a side-note, after the season ended, I remember there being a ton of posts about how stupid Jerry and Wade were for not making wholesale changes. These comments from fans who were 'just more realistic' than the rest of the board who preached patience. I don't recall seeing any of them come back to eat their words when the changes were actually made.

Instead, they've switched gears to *****ing about Tony Romo, of all players. It makes absolutely no sense.

 

[LatinMind]

Wade is who he is. Wow. That's so.....frackin obvious for everyone not psychotic, with Borderline Personality Disorder, Multiple Personality Disorder or in politics.

Your agenda is getting old. I do enjoy your show though.



I'm not a huge Wade fan. I'm healthy enough to see certain areas of Wade's personality, behaviors, and coaching abilities that are normal, healthy, and beneficial to the Cowboys. I do not have to see him in black and white or wonderful or sucky with nothing between.

Give it a rest. You're annoying with your agenda and indirect insults of others with opinions differing from your own.

lol ouch i just heard a toilet flush

 

[tyke1doe]

I wish Wade would just make the following statement:

TO is under contract with the Buffalo Bills. I am the coach of the Dallas Cowboys. I have already said all I'm going to say about TO, as a player, and as a person, and will not be fielding any more questions on this matter. If you have any questions regarding players on my team, I will gladly answer them.

100% dead on.

Phillips said some ridiculous things, just as Jerry Jones has. If you're not going to tell the truth don't insult everyone by saying "TO was great. Most productive WR in football. Great team guy..... but we're better off by cutting him."

That's idiotic. If it were Zorn trying to dance around something like that, the TO fan club would be front and center with smilies galore. The only answer that makes any sense is "TO's not a part of this team; I wish him well," or some such. What Phillips and Jones have said makes them look like fools.

I agree with both these posts.

If you're not going to talk, don't talk. But if you're going to talk, don't hand us some BS stuff like that. It undermines your credibility and makes you look like a buffon.

 

[Vtwin]

That is exactly what he nailed.

How should he answer these questions? Like he had some marbles instead of "all is well" mumbo jumbo. If all is well, why is he gone? If all is well why did the team miss the playoffs?

Oh yeah, 13-3. There's your reality. Great marriage.

Here is some more reality for you... TO is not a Dallas Cowboy anymore.

If some "journalist" (LOL) started asking me questions about a lightning rod like TO who is no longer on my team I would be talking out of both sides of my mouth and out of my arse as well. Ridiculous questions deserve ridiculous answers.


There is no way Wade can answer these questions "correctly".

Tabloid "journalism" (LOL) at it's best/worst.

 

[Next_years_Champs]

On a side-note, after the season ended, I remember there being a ton of posts about how stupid Jerry and Wade were for not making wholesale changes. These comments from fans who were 'just more realistic' than the rest of the board who preached patience. I don't recall seeing any of them come back to eat their words when the changes were actually made.

Instead, they've switched gears to *****ing about Tony Romo, of all players. It makes absolutely no sense.

It is funny though some of the contortions and spin doctoring going on is hilarious.

One can say that the changes going on don't address the problems, and depending on your outlook that would be a valid criticism. But to say that the changes going on don't exist IMO is being "divorced from reality".

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

keep in mind that Jerra put a gag on poor ol' Wade. But on the other hand, coaches are expected to speak to the media during the owners' meetings. So Wade was caught between a crock and a hard place. In lieu of saying something BAD about a player ON ANOTHER TEAM, he opted to say nice things about T.O.
On this one The Clown Wade Phillips should be given a pass.

 

[RedRaiderCowboysFan]

Of course you would say that.

You are a Wade defender.

You shouldnt criticize someone for defending someone who sucks, because you do the same thing when you defend romo.

 

[SMCowboy]

Asked what the Bills are getting in Terrell Owens, Phillips did nothing but toss bouquets T.O.'s way, describing him as "all the things you want in a football player,'' and "probably the most productive receiver in the league in the last several years.''

Just going by those two things, Phillips didn't state since single thing about TO that is not a well known fact.

If you are looking for what you want in a football player, he is everything you could want. He works harder than just about anyone else in football, he NEVER takes a play off, and is MORE than willing to do what ever you ask, including being a great blocker as a WR.

He also said that TO was probally the most productive WR in football the last two years. Once again, the complete truth, if you look at his stats alone, few can compare, especially in back to back years.

The thing that Phillips never did say thought was anything about the type of team mate that TO was. He said nothing about how good of a football player that TO was. Wade Phillips knew EXACTLY what he was doing when he answered the question, he took the high road and sounded fully complimentary of TO, but deliberately choose his words so as not to say anything that wasn't 100% the truth.

Notice the subtle but HUGE difference between what Jerry says about TO, and what Banks is saying Phillips said. When Jerry talks, he says what a great player that TO was in Dallas, ect. Notice that Phillips never said anything about TO as a player, but that he is everything you want in a football player. All football coaches use the everything you can want in a football player all the time. And it is used to describe someone who is the first to arrive a practice, the last to leave, someone who never takes plays off, and how is always willing to do the dirty work. It is also OFTEN used to describe people who are not great athletes or put up great numbers.

Really, if you spend the time to read between the lines, Phillips infact IS taking a shot a TO, but in an EXTREMELY PC way. He said that he is everything you want in a football player, normally a statement reserved by coaches for players that are not the most talented, and do not put up huge stats. But deliberately left out (or some Banks implies), the last part of the statement when coaches usually use the everything you could want in a football player AND TEAMMATE. The second shot that Phillips takes is at TO skills as a whole. By using the statement that TO is everything you could want in a football player, he is saying that TO's skills were not that special. And the double shot was saying that while his skills were not that great anymore, he still had great stats. You don't have to be real smart to figure out what he is getting at with that statement. That TO always commanding the ball is why his stats are what they were, not because of his great skills.

 

[WG5516]

I'd say it's one of the worst.

Why is he ripping Wade again? Because he wouldn't admit that TO caused chemistry problems? Because he wouldn't reveal what changes were being made?

This is the problem. If you don't talk, you're gagged or you won't face the music or whatever. If you do talk in typical vague coach-speak, people say you're stupid or dishonest because of the answers you give.

Which is why it's best to just not talk at all.

Exactly. They're mad because Wade won't give them anything to feed off of. Why should he bash T.O.? UGH I'm so sick of the Dallas Media.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

it's gotta suck when everyone in the world thinks you're an idiot