Coaches validate Harrison's rep as NFL's dirtiest player... Roy #2

[NeonNinja]

I think O'hara or Osi had some bad comments on Seymour, but I could be wrong. I think it was Brandon Jacobs that he poked.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Roy makes all the teams.....

 

[dcfanatic]

Exactly. He's nothing like Harrison, who definitely knows he's crossing the line but doesn't care.

Exactly. Harrison thinks he's a tough guy by playing dirty football.

I hate him.

 

[AbeBeta]

Probably the guy he poked in the eye. But that was more grade-schoolish than dirty.

actually, the player I'm thinking of was saying the Seymour is always giving guys a little extra after the play and at the bottom of piles.

 

[TNCowboy]

Wilfork should be in the discussion of dirtiest players.

As for Harrison, I don't think it's blows to head or taking out knees with him so much anymore. It's that extra little hit or push after the whistle has sounded. If you watch him closely, he does that all game long, and rarely gets called for it.

 

[Hoofbite]

I never thought Hines Ward was a dirty player. I know he likes to put a hit on people when he gets the chance but I haven't ever seen him hit someone in a fashion that I would call dirty.

 

[TNCowboy]

I never thought Hines Ward was a dirty player. I know he likes to put a hit on people when he gets the chance but I haven't ever seen him hit someone in a fashion that I would call dirty.

He reminds me of a Rodney Harrison type playing WR.

He makes a lot of unnecessary hits after the whistle.

With Roy Williams, the only thing that could justify his selection would be horse collars. He really hasn't had many questionable plays otherwise the last few years. I can see him getting on it a few years ago simply by the volume of punishing hits he laid.

 

[TNCowboy]

I've said it 1000 times, but people don't care (or usually even know) if he's a good player or not. They just want to be entertained with big hits. Once he brings back the big hits, people will thinks he's "back."

I don't think that's the case with all fans. Most fans - here at least - recognize that he hasn't been an effective player in most aspects the last few years, not just his failure to hit.

And I don't downplay the hits he used to make. He punished opposing skill players to the degree that I have no doubt it had an impact on the way they played the game. When someone lays a big hit on Randy Moss, for example, it often takes him out of the game. The big hits just aren't entertaining...they can make a difference in the game, even if they don't create a turnover.

 

[dogunwo]

I agree. I'd actually be pleased if he was a truly dirty player. It would show more spark and passion than he's shown in recent years.

I may be a bit off, but I always enjoyed having a player or two like that on the roster. Erik Williams was absolutely filthy, but I loved him for it.

Only two votes for Roy? Andy Reid and Tom Coughlin probably. But you are right, Roy has no place on that list. If the list proves anything, its that Harrison is truly a dirty player. Mark Columbo is a nasty player as well.

 

[dogunwo]

That whole NE line has a nasty and somewhat dirty streak -- I forget who was complaining about Seymour last year.

Do you have any doubt that they are coached that way?

 

[the kid 05]

Maybe it's just me, but I still think the Denver O-line and their chop blocking are dirtier than Roy and Harrison put together.

I don't really see either guy as dirty (I am talking about in comparison to someone like Conrad Dobler), though Harrison is closer to it than Roy is. Roy's only claim to this is a tackle that was legal for 80 years and then outlawed because he hurt a couple of people. I still find that stupid. Owens got hurt last year and he wasn't horse collared. Injuries happen in the game. The horse collar rule is an extreme over reaction.

Meanwhile chop blocking continues to be acceptable. Stupid.

Preach father preach

 

[DaBoys4Life]

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[adbutcher]

Maybe it's just me, but I still think the Denver O-line and their chop blocking are dirtier than Roy and Harrison put together.

I don't really see either guy as dirty (I am talking about in comparison to someone like Conrad Dobler), though Harrison is closer to it than Roy is. Roy's only claim to this is a tackle that was legal for 80 years and then outlawed because he hurt a couple of people. I still find that stupid. Owens got hurt last year and he wasn't horse collared. Injuries happen in the game. The horse collar rule is an extreme over reaction.

Meanwhile chop blocking continues to be acceptable. Stupid.

 

[Hostile]

Ad, did you ever get chop blocked? DL is so vulnerable to it that it's not funny.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I agree. I'd actually be pleased if he was a truly dirty player. It would show more spark and passion than he's shown in recent years.

I may be a bit off, but I always enjoyed having a player or two like that on the roster. Erik Williams was absolutely filthy, but I loved him for it.

Bleh. I dislike dirty players, though I really don't consider dirty players. There's a right way and a wrong way to play the game and a wrong way gets players injured and means that the player doesn't have enough talent to get by on that alone. They're not tough, they're just sneaky cowards who when they face somebody who is legitimately tough, they cower away or just look plain silly.

I actually don't consider Pierce that dirty either. He does hold tight ends and wide receivers like it's going out of style, but hardly dirty. Kreutz is extremely dirty, but Harrison easily takes the cake. One day these refs may call him for waiting until a player is on the turf and then hitting him late in the back with the crown of his helmet. He does that multiple times every freaking game. And the refs just stand there clueless.




YAKUZA

 

[TEK2000]

How's this for being dirty?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3POT8n2Qk3g

 

[Hostile]

How's this for being dirty?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3POT8n2Qk3g

That's one of the reasons why I said he would be who I voted for.

 

[DallasEast]

How's this for being dirty?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3POT8n2Qk3g

Karma would be seeing him get chop blocked and put on the IR.

 

[IndianaCowboyFan]

How's this for being dirty?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3POT8n2Qk3g

Not only a very cheap shot but a very late cheap shot. Their whole team is coached to be dirty players.

 

[MrMom]

That whole NE line has a nasty and somewhat dirty streak -- I forget who was complaining about Seymour last year.

it was nick hardwick. the chargers center.

"He's cheap and dirty and the head man just let him get away with it the whole time," Hardwick said. "They've got 10 great players on that team and when Jarvis Green comes on the field, they've got 11 great players who compete how you're supposed to play. But Richard Seymour is the biggest (expletive) I've ever played."

"Head slapping, foot stomping in the pile, running by and throwing punches in your back," Hardwick said. "He's a (expletive). ... There were a lot of things he did. There's a field goal where he was stomping feet. Who stomps feet? And the officials weren't doing anything about it. He plays like a punk."

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008...alls-richard-seymour-cheap-and-dirty-and-not/