Coaching a Franchise Quarterback

[TwoDeep3]

I was driving yesterday and heard a comment on 105.3 in Dallas. They were quoting a sports analyst - unfortunately I didn't get his name.

He - the analyst - was speaking about the Cleveland Browns firing Hue Jackson and Todd Haley. The school of thought was that the Browns knew bringing along Baker Mayfield needed a head coach who could groom the rookie.

Neither Jackson or Haley had the skills to make this kid a winner, so the Browns thought.

That started me thinking about Dallas and Garrett and Dak.

I concede Dak has accuracy issues. He needs a clean field of vision and protection for his accuracy to be maximized. Saw Romo talking about his rise to become who he was and in college the head coach told him he wasn't all that accurate. Romo worked on throwing with accuracy from every platform - read angle of ball delivery - and improved to the point he won the starting job.

Perhaps what is needed is a head coach that can bring Dak along, work him on the different delivery platforms and to maximize his talents.

It would also help strengthening the offensive line to the level of 2016. But Dak needs to win the battle between him and the defensive coordinators who throw numbers to overwhelm the line and move Dak out of his comfort zone.

And this goes back to receivers getting open.

Returning to the point of this thread, while we all have reasons for liking or disliking Garrett, perhaps the more accurate tact in his stay or leave is his ability to bring out the best in Dak, and make him a winner.

I don't believe Garrett has that ability, nor does Kellen Moore impress me as a guy that can inspire a player to be the best he can be.

Opinions?

 

[Batman1980]

Jason Garrett couldn't teach a pop warner QB the difference between a flag and a 9.

 

[CATCH17]

I was driving yesterday and heard a comment on 105.3 in Dallas. They were quoting a sports analyst - unfortunately I didn't get his name.

He - the analyst - was speaking about the Cleveland Browns firing Hue Jackson and Todd Haley. The school of thought was that the Browns knew bringing along Baker Mayfield needed a head coach who could groom the rookie.

Neither Jackson or Haley had the skills to make this kid a winner, so the Browns thought.

That started me thinking about Dallas and Garrett and Dak.

I concede Dak has accuracy issues. He needs a clean field of vision and protection for his accuracy to be maximized. Saw Romo talking about his rise to become who he was and in college the head coach told him he wasn't all that accurate. Romo worked on throwing with accuracy from every platform - read angle of ball delivery - and improved to the point he won the starting job.

Perhaps what is needed is a head coach that can bring Dak along, work him on the different delivery platforms and to maximize his talents.

It would also help strengthening the offensive line to the level of 2016. But Dak needs to win the battle between him and the defensive coordinators who throw numbers to overwhelm the line and move Dak out of his comfort zone.

And this goes back to receivers getting open.

Returning to the point of this thread, while we all have reasons for liking or disliking Garrett, perhaps the more accurate tact in his stay or leave is his ability to bring out the best in Dak, and make him a winner.

I don't believe Garrett has that ability, nor does Kellen Moore impress me as a guy that can inspire a player to be the best he can be.

Opinions?

It's clear as day to everyone except the Jones's that you can't keep Dak and Jason Garrett and expect more then mediocrity on any consistent basis.

The Cowboys have to pick between the 2. You can't keep Jason Garrett and Dak Prescott.

1 of them has to go.

If you keep both them you have to hope the Oline is just unbelievable again and Cole Beasley is 2016 level again.

The move is a new coach. It's obvious.

I'd replace both but since we have no first rounder then just replace the coach with a heavy RPO guy.

 

[jazzcat22]

Garrett, Linehan, Moore, Marinelli all need to go.

 

[Batman1980]

Garrett, Linehan, Moore, Marinelli all need to go.

Yup. I want Richard to begin overhauling this defense yesterday to a unit that's nasty and forces takeaways at least twice a game.

 

[Batman1980]

It's clear as day to everyone except the Jones's that you can't keep Dak and Jason Garrett and expect more then mediocrity on any consistent basis.

The Cowboys have to pick between the 2. You can't keep Jason Garrett and Dak Prescott.

1 of them has to go.

If you keep both them you have to hope the Oline is just unbelievable again and Cole Beasley is 2016 level again.

The move is a new coach. It's obvious.

I'd replace both but since we have no first rounder then just replace the coach with a heavy RPO guy.

Fredbeard is the most under-rated critical injury in the NFL this season.

 

[Captain-Crash]

wouldn't it be easier to find a true starting quarterback.

 

[CATCH17]

Fredbeard is the most under-rated critical injury in the NFL this season.

It hurt but Looney has been good.

The tackles have been garbage.

 

[Batman1980]

wouldn't it be easier to find a true starting quarterback.

How many of those are there in the NFL? 7? 8?

 

[acr731]

Lets use Tom Brady for an example. If Garrett were the HC in NE would Tom be what he is now? Not a chance.

 

[Tabascocat]

Dak may or may not have reached his ceiling but surrounding him with the likes of Moore, Linehan and Garrett does him no favors.

I have been saying it for awhile, Dak and this offensive scheme(Garrett) can not coexist, one has to go if not both. I would start with a whole new offensive braintrust and try to salvage Dak in some way.

 

[Zman5]

wouldn't it be easier to find a true starting quarterback.

It took a long time to find Romo. And even with Romo, JG couldn't win much.
How easy do you think it will be to find someone who is much better than Romo? Because with JG, you are going to need someone like A. Rogers to win a championship.

 

[jazzcat22]

Lets use Tom Brady for an example. If Garrett were the HC in NE would Tom be what he is now? Not a chance.

Or Jason would be a SB Winning coach. And our fans will be saying, fire Bellicheck and hire Jason.

 

[acr731]

Or Jason would be a SB Winning coach. And our fans will be saying, fire Bellicheck and hire Jason.

Don't hurt yourself laughing. If Garrett was so great he would have more than 1 playoff win in 10 years.

 

[Batman1980]

Don't hurt yourself laughing. If Garrett was so great he would have more than 1 playoff win in 10 years.

11 years in Dallas and not 1 win past the divisional round. Good job Jerrah, you found your very own Marvin Lewis.

 

[jazzcat22]

Don't hurt yourself laughing. If Garrett was so great he would have more than 1 playoff win in 10 years.

Dude, it was a joke. Don’t take it as I was serious.

 

[SackMaster]

wouldn't it be easier to find a true starting quarterback.

So should the Rams kept Fisher and replace Goff AND Gurley since they were both "trash"?

After all, Goff had a QB Rating of 63.6, and Gurley had less than 900 yards at 3.2 ypc under Fisher.

Then add that even with a "true starting quarterback" in Romo, there were still a lot of the same issues with the offense that is still there with Dak.

If Garrett is here in 2019, Dak or any other YOUNG QB cannot be. The only way we win WITH Garrett is by bring in a Veteran QB that has already been coached up elsewhere. Even then, I'm not sure that would work.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Perhaps what is needed is a head coach that can bring Dak along, work him on the different delivery platforms and to maximize his talents.
...
I don't believe Garrett has that ability, nor does Kellen Moore impress me as a guy that can inspire a player to be the best he can be.

The hiring of Kellen Moore shows how unserious management is. We have a young starting QB who regressed. We promoted the water boy to coach him up, firing the one coach we had with real experience as a QB and a QB coach.

 

[Brax]

I was driving yesterday and heard a comment on 105.3 in Dallas. They were quoting a sports analyst - unfortunately I didn't get his name.

He - the analyst - was speaking about the Cleveland Browns firing Hue Jackson and Todd Haley. The school of thought was that the Browns knew bringing along Baker Mayfield needed a head coach who could groom the rookie.

Neither Jackson or Haley had the skills to make this kid a winner, so the Browns thought.

That started me thinking about Dallas and Garrett and Dak.

I concede Dak has accuracy issues. He needs a clean field of vision and protection for his accuracy to be maximized. Saw Romo talking about his rise to become who he was and in college the head coach told him he wasn't all that accurate. Romo worked on throwing with accuracy from every platform - read angle of ball delivery - and improved to the point he won the starting job.

Perhaps what is needed is a head coach that can bring Dak along, work him on the different delivery platforms and to maximize his talents.

It would also help strengthening the offensive line to the level of 2016. But Dak needs to win the battle between him and the defensive coordinators who throw numbers to overwhelm the line and move Dak out of his comfort zone.

And this goes back to receivers getting open.

Returning to the point of this thread, while we all have reasons for liking or disliking Garrett, perhaps the more accurate tact in his stay or leave is his ability to bring out the best in Dak, and make him a winner.

I don't believe Garrett has that ability, nor does Kellen Moore impress me as a guy that can inspire a player to be the best he can be.

Opinions?

Finding a starting QB is very difficult, I also believe either JG or Dak has to go, at this point it has to be JG based on his performance. A new HC (not sure who would want it with Jerry's baggage) would get 1 to 2 years work with Dak (2nd yr Franchise) and see. Unfortunately I think Dak and JG are here for the long term as Jerry has put too much hype in both of them, you have pay a heavy price for opening your mouth and JJ and unfortunately the fan base will continue to suffer for it and see more of the same, remember JJ's motto, "just one player away" . Not sure in the end where this magical Dak replacement comes from but if Dak ends up as bad as many believe the next 10 or so years are going to be pretty ugly around Jerry world. can any one say 35 years and still looking for the play off run.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Perhaps what is needed is a head coach that can bring Dak along, work him on the different delivery platforms and to maximize his talents.

Ding ding ding!