Colin: "It's the same recipe for success"

[PA Cowboy Fan]

In 2016, La’el Collins was playing Left Guard. The Cowboys Oline was Smith - Collins - Frederick - Martin - Free. The reason the Cowboys running game took a nose dive in 2017 was the retirement of Free, and moving Collins to Right Tackle. Collins was always better suited to play Guard - as Micah Parsons proved in the Bengals game this year.

If the Cowboys want to get back to being dominant in the run game, they have to fix the center of their Oline. They have a chance when Tyron comes back, and they can move Tyler Smith back to Left Guard later this season.

Too bad Peters got hurt so quickly. Dak has never played well when Tyron Smith has been hurt. He doesn’t have Romo’d Houdini-like escapability, or his creativity when a play breaks down. Dak doesn’t elevate the play of his receivers like Romo did.

Dak is good enough to win with a strong running game and defense. He’s more talented than Rush. But he needs to run the plays that are called, and stop ad libbing with audibles. If he plays within the scheme, he can become a Super Bowl winning QB without having to be a superstar.

And that's all that matters.

 

[DenCWBY]

offense scored 13 points. defense, special teams gifted us with 9 points (almost 10 if not for a missed PAT execution). essentially with that defense, another field goal and we win.

offense needs to be better.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

What? We did win, so no idea what you mean here. And there's no point in opening up the passing game when the running game is working and you don't have to. You open yourself up to sacks and turnovers in a game where a turnover could have changed the outcome.

but that's the point. the running game and defense are helping us win games....nothing wrong with that. still a win. I give them more credit than most.

 

[JJ1986]

This is true. But around here it can't be. The only thing some cowboys fans can accept is to blame Dak.

Look at Aikman. He never lit it up. Who has the best offense in the NFL right now? Eagles most likely and Hurts and company are doing it on the ground and air.

300 plus yards is typically a stat of a losing teams QB.

Aikman was not a bus driver

 

[uvaballa]

Well the defense hasn't been very good the past few years. They created a lot of turnovers last year but were not that dependable at the end of games. So sometimes gues on O press because they do not think they're D can stop the other team. With this year's D I think they can be more conservative on O.

 

[CoachD]

I believe that I already posted that Colin Cowherd is a jackass!

 

[morat1959]

Because if he is the franchise QB he has to learn how to play from the pocket. That's how you win in the league.

Dak is what he is. You can’t teach him to be a pocket passer.

 

[AsthmaField]

Play action.
Play action.
Play. Action.

Dak… no Dak… whoever is the QB. Get under center and use play action like the weapon that it is.

 

[Aven8]

Knew this thread was coming when I saw the start of his show.

I don't disagree, though. Said every week and will keep saying, Dallas needs to stick with this formula when Dak comes back (which he will).

Air Dak has never been their best strategy, especially not with a solid defense like they have now.

Never worked for Romo either hence his best year record wise with Demarco and than drafting Zeke for him too.

Jerry and Stephen have never realized that you can’t just pay a guy big money and than try and turn him into something he’s not.

 

[superonyx]

Aikman was not a bus driver

Didn't say he was. Said his stats didn't light it up.

Did they? Or do you just prefer to put words in someones mouth so you can make a statement against a strawman?

 

[Swagger]

People all over Rush because he only had 100 yards yesterday. Why? What did you want? You wanted to throw it all around in a tight game? Really? Because many of you also say you want to see us run the ball more and just win. Which is it? Some of you all are really confused I think.

Quite. Add in a couple of bad drops by his receivers he was fine. Sometimes a QB is better off taking a sack when the protection fails rather than attempting to play hero ball and turning it over.

 

[morat1959]

Quite. Add in a couple of bad drops by his receivers he was fine. Sometimes a QB is better off taking a sack when the protection fails rather than attempting to play hero ball and turning it over.

It’s the fantasy guys. Those stats are all that matters.

 

[Rayman70]

hes an ***.

 

[khiladi]

It's dwindling excuses that this team is highly successful without Dak.
Rush restored order after that Dak-led game 1 debacle. He's doing exactly what they ask.
Dak isn't capable of that he sucks at reading the field and being comfortable in the pocket

Yep, people point to 2016, but defenses realized 1 thing.

They simply needed to bracket Cole Beasley in coverage and sit on the out routes, meaning they saw what Linehan was doing. So Dak didn’t know what to do in 2017 and started forcing the ball to Dez. So Linehan had to go back to force-feeding Zeke, who was that dominant, but then he was suspended. They then scapegoated Dez, who is a mental midget and does himself no service with his mouth, and made the offense “Dak-friendly” who declared Beasley as his number 1 WR. They tried establishing more diverse routes for him, and we saw how that worked out.

Just plugging Dak back in a run-heavy offense like 2016 isn’t going to work, especially considering how dominant that OL and RG were at that time, which we don’t have now.

People have a hard time accepting Dak had peaked.

 

[khiladi]

Actually Scott Linehan was a genius (yes I hated him) when it comes to dak.
Scott immediately saw Daks weaknesses and designed a mobile offense that Dak could flourish in.
problem being Linehan and KM are pocket quarterback guys.
they've been trying to put Dak in the pocket ever since 2016.

he can't do it. teams have slowly figured that out, he's inaccurate and below average arm. They play with the corners off, safeties up take away the middle and try to force him to throw outside.
He can't/won't do it. He can't throw into a crowded middle either, there's the problem.
Either move him out of the pocket and start doing the same rpo, roll out, boot leg stuff you did in 2016, otherwise hes done. Rush is a better pocket quarterback than Dak. His arm is no stronger, but just accurate enough to hit the intermediate middle which Dak won't throw.
Give Dak a chance, move him around, or you'll have a instant QB controversy on you're hands and Dak will be out of the NFL
Bank it.

Actually the problem is the NFL catches up to these type of players, meaning you have to learn to throw from the pocket. They “figured” Dak out in 2016, as the 2 legit defenses he played with the Giants and Vikings exposed his flaws. From a schematic perspective in 2017, defenses as a whole just stated bracketing Beasley and sitting on his out routes. Dak is a robot at reading the field and much of his tendencies are pre-determined.

RG3 did the same thing as Dak his first year with Shanahan, but the offense was built on him being an early-read QB. That’s why Shanny also drafted Cousins. And before anybody says the QB in Baltimore as an example of a mobile QB, he’s a unique specimen and has an uncanny ability to throw the ball accurately 60 yards downfield with the flick of a wrist and can throw dimes from the pocket.

 

[75boyz]

The question is, will McCarthy and Moore force Dak to play into the current conservative system? Or will they think that their savior has returned and allowing him to throwing it 35-40 times/game again?

I think there is are factions of the team/organization (possibly even Dak himself) that care more about individual perceptions than overall team success.

I hate saying that, but I am starting to think it's true. Dak thinks he's elite. Can the coaches save Dak from himself?

The season depends on it.

 

[CouchCoach]

What is an OC to do when the owner wants his 40M QB to look like it?

You cannot remove this from the equation. Moore has to keep his boss and QB happy. But is that the best way to max the potential of this team?

 

[75boyz]

What is an OC to do when the owner wants his 40M QB to look like it?

You cannot remove this from the equation. Moore has to keep his boss and QB happy. But is that the best way to max the potential of this team?

The ultimate outcome hangs in the balance on how this question is answered.

In most other teams chain of command the HC would take an assertive role and let it be known that what's best for THIS team is to continue its present course. And that includes when the QB1 returns.

But Dallas's unique Owner, GM and Head Coach wants things a certain way.

Sure gonna be sad if team wins are compromised at the expense of fulfilling public contract perceptions.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

There's a reason why many don't take Colin Cowherd seriously. And him doing things like this is one of those reasons.

 

[noshame]

Actually the problem is the NFL catches up to these type of players, meaning you have to learn to throw from the pocket. They “figured” Dak out in 2016, as the 2 legit defenses he played with the Giants and Vikings exposed his flaws. From a schematic perspective in 2017, defenses as a whole just stated bracketing Beasley and sitting on his out routes. Dak is a robot at reading the field and much of his tendencies are pre-determined.

RG3 did the same thing as Dak his first year with Shanahan, but the offense was built on him being an early-read QB. That’s why Shanny also drafted Cousins. And before anybody says the QB in Baltimore as an example of a mobile QB, he’s a unique specimen and has an uncanny ability to throw the ball accurately 60 yards downfield with the flick of a wrist and can throw dimes from the pocket.

True but moving him out of the pocket buys time for receivers to gets separation. Also, it makes life easier blocking.
Don't assume it means he won't be in the pocket, just 30% of the time he needs to be on the move.to keep defenses honest.
Also with Daks arm and accuracy he cannot learn the pocket.