Comics and Movies

[DallasEast]

Even I immediately made the connection with Evans (and I didn't even know his name) when he became Cap, so I'm sure a lot of other casual comics fans did as well.
As for Gemma Chan, I never knew until you pointed it out a few weeks ago.

The thing about Chris Evans' superhero recognizable roles is that one has nothing to do with the MCU and the other has everything to do with it. Even hardcore comics fans do not experience deja vu with Evans having played both parts for that reason.

Recognizing or not recognizing people with or without makeup happens every day. A few folks remember Gemma Chan as Minn-Erva while watching Eternals. Most people do not. Similar things happen all the time in life.

I really don't think most people care, for the most part, if an actor plays different roles in the same or competing franchises, as long as they do it well enough to make you forget about it fairly early in the movie. Mamoa is different though, because he has such a unique look to him. Even as I watch Aquaman or more recently Slumberland, I occasionally think of his GoT role...but only for a moment here or there.

Hopefully, I did not post something earlier leading anyone to believe I thought most people would care about an actor playing multiple roles. That was not what I was trying to get across. I was saying some (maybe few is more appropriate) think of an actor's previous role while watching their current role involuntarily. And that it is far notable for a minority of viewers within a concept like an interwoven cinematic universe, where relatable storylines purposefully intersect with one another--regardless if a previous role has been made defunct.

Take your Jason Momoa example for a second. I did not think of his previous roles while watching him play in Aquaman and Justice League--even though I enjoyed watching him in Stargate: Atlantis and Game of Thrones beforehand--because his past roles as Ronon Dex and Khal Drogo had nothing to do with the DC Extended Universe that Arthur Murray is a part of.

On the other hand, it would be different for me if Momoa was cast as Lobo. The Main Man is a huge DC character, arguably at the same level as Aquaman. So for me (just me and the minority of folks like myself), I would still have flashbacks of Arthur facing off with his half-brother while seeing Lobo fragging folks while chomping down on a cigar. Let me be clear. I am not saying Momoa's performance would diminish in my eyes. I am saying I would experience split-second flashes of the role he previously played within the same cinematic universe.

 

[DallasEast]

Does Cavill look 39 yrs, ....Or is he appear younger than he looks ?

Does James Gunn prefer that more Smallville - Superboy look ?

Smallville - Tom Welling alias Clarke Kent

Gunn may prefer the Welling look but the new Supes will not be Kal-El in the reimagined movies he will be approving and overseeing. Or it better not be Welling. He's 45 now and no longer has that boyish Smallville face.

 

[DallasEast]

Then you get an actor like Gary Oldman, whose demeanor and acting make him hard for me to immediately recognize, even when he isn't wearing appearance altering make-up. Maybe I'm the only one, but I see him in some roles, and I know he looks familiar, but it sometimes takes me a few minutes to realize it's him. That, to me, is exceptional acting.

Yep. I am starting to think I have led folks down a rabbit hole I did not intend to dig. My apologies if that is true everyone.

 

[Runwildboys]

Yep. I am starting to think I have led folks down a rabbit hole I did not intend to dig. My apologies if that is true everyone.

I think "everyone" will be fine.

I just went to the poll results, to see if I could get an idea of how many people are even keeping up with this thread, and noticed there are 25 total votes cast. Since 25 isn't divisible by 3, with a real number as a result, someone(s) didn't vote for all 3 of their top choices. I assume it's just 1 person, so I'm guessing there are 9 people following this thread since the poll went up.

Again, I think "everyone" will be fine.

 

[nobody]

I may be weird, but I'd sort of like to see some unknowns cast for some of these roles. No previous associations.

 

[Stash]

I may be weird, but I'd sort of like to see some unknowns cast for some of these roles. No previous associations.

I agree. And I feel that casting will be HUGE. It certainly was in the early phases of the MCU.

 

[Roadtrip635]

I like Tyler Hoechlin, from Superman and Lois, but as long as they get someone with a chiseled jaw, who actually looks strong, I'm good. I never cared for Christopher Reeve, because he always looked like he should be wearing a cardigan and smoking a pipe.

Kinda like in the movie "Deathtrap"? I don't recall a pipe, but he did have the cardigan.....lol

 

[Runwildboys]

Kinda like in the movie "Deathtrap"? I don't recall a pipe, but he did have the cardigan.....lol

When I saw that pic, I thought it was from the movie Noises Off. I was gonna ask what Nicolette Sheridan wore.

 

[Roadtrip635]

The thing about Chris Evans' superhero recognizable roles is that one has nothing to do with the MCU and the other has everything to do with it. Even hardcore comics fans do not experience deja vu with Evans having played both parts for that reason.

Recognizing or not recognizing people with or without makeup happens every day. A few folks remember Gemma Chan as Minn-Erva while watching Eternals. Most people do not. Similar things happen all the time in life.
Hopefully, I did not post something earlier leading anyone to believe I thought most people would care about an actor playing multiple roles. That was not what I was trying to get across. I was saying some (maybe few is more appropriate) think of an actor's previous role while watching their current role involuntarily. And that it is far notable for a minority of viewers within a concept like an interwoven cinematic universe, where relatable storylines purposefully intersect with one another--regardless if a previous role has been made defunct.

Take your Jason Momoa example for a second. I did not think of his previous roles while watching him play in Aquaman and Justice League--even though I enjoyed watching him in Stargate: Atlantis and Game of Thrones beforehand--because his past roles as Ronon Dex and Khal Drogo had nothing to do with the DC Extended Universe that Arthur Murray is a part of.

On the other hand, it would be different for me if Momoa was cast as Lobo. The Main Man is a huge DC character, arguably at the same level as Aquaman. So for me (just me and the minority of folks like myself), I would still have flashbacks of Arthur facing off with his half-brother while seeing Lobo fragging folks while chomping down on a cigar. Let me be clear. I am not saying Momoa's performance would diminish in my eyes. I am saying I would experience split-second flashes of the role he previously played within the same cinematic universe.

I think Momoa fits the Lobo character better than Aquaman. I didn't dislike him as Aquaman and enjoyed the movie, but if I had to pick between the two, he's definitely a Lobo kinda guy, the full blown Simon Bisley version of Lobo and yes I want to see some Fraggin'!!!

 

[nobody]

I think Momoa fits the Lobo character better than Aquaman. I didn't dislike him as Aquaman and enjoyed the movie, but if I had to pick between the two, he's definitely a Lobo kinda guy, the full blown Simon Bisley version of Lobo and yes I want to see some Fraggin'!!!

Agreed. He was miscast as Aquaman but did a decent job I guess. He'd be a stellar Lobo

 

[Runwildboys]

Agreed. He was miscast as Aquaman but did a decent job I guess. He'd be a stellar Lobo

A good Aquaman would have been the guy who plays Homelander, or the guy who played Reacher. (Who, now that I think about it, may have played him in Smallville )

 

[quickccc]

I like Tyler Hoechlin, from Superman and Lois, but as long as they get someone with a chiseled jaw, who actually looks strong, I'm good. I never cared for Christopher Reeve, because he always looked like he should be wearing a cardigan and smoking a pipe.

lol ..is Reeves too old school, cheesy, charmy and smirk smiley for ya ..?

I actually thought Christopher Reeves (not to be confused with B&W version of Steve Reeves) actually created the model for Superman character ; ..
before it started expanding into the WB series and then into movies: , Smallville,..... Lois & Clark...Superman and Lois... . New Adventures of Superman.. ..Superboy ...
.. Krypton,..
- and then into the movie series .....Superman Returns.....Man of Steel .... Batman vs Superman ...Justice League ... etc.

 

[DallasEast]

A good Aquaman would have been the guy who plays Homelander, or the guy who played Reacher. (Who, now that I think about it, may have played him in Smallville )

You are correct. Alan Ritchson is the same guy who played Arthur Curry on Smallville. Ritchson looks far better for the part at 38 than he did at 21.

He has even done voicework for the character in the animated movie Justice League: The New Frontier. A casting director would likely make him an extremely strong candidate for the role in the new DCU.

It would be nice if Ritchson had an opportunity to act like a fictional superhero within a truly dramatic setting. His Smallville appearances were essentially pretty boy vogueing scenes. He also played Hawk in Titans. A good number of his scenes in that series were over-the-top "damaged" macho exhibitions. Those roles were shallow. Hopefully, he would get a chance at seriously acting a superhero role if he wanted the part.

 

[joseephuss]

lol ..is Reeves too old school, cheesy, charmy and smirk smiley for ya ..?

I actually thought Christopher Reeves (not to be confused with B&W version of Steve Reeves) actually created the model for Superman character ; ..
before it started expanding into the WB series and then into movies: , Smallville,..... Lois & Clark...Superman and Lois... . New Adventures of Superman.. ..Superboy ...
.. Krypton,..
- and then into the movie series .....Superman Returns.....Man of Steel .... Batman vs Superman ...Justice League ... etc.

Christopher Reeve with no s.

George Reeves(pictured below) with an s. Not Steve.

 

[quickccc]

Christopher Reeve with no s.

George Reeves(pictured below) with an s. Not Steve.

Is this George Reeves ... or Ben Affleck ? ........

 

[joseephuss]

Is this George Reeves ... or Ben Affleck ? ........

I went with the Batfleck to further test your knowledge.

 

[quickccc]

Agreed. He was miscast as Aquaman but did a decent job I guess. He'd be a stellar Lobo

I think Momoa fits the Lobo character better than Aquaman. I didn't dislike him as Aquaman and enjoyed the movie, but if I had to pick between the two, he's definitely a Lobo kinda guy, the full blown Simon Bisley version of Lobo and yes I want to see some Fraggin'!!!

What are you looking for in an " ideal" Aquaman casting ? Is it a certain appearance look,..or acting performance ?

I can get casting idea, because still to this very day,.. i still shake my head with George Clooney, Val Kilmer and of course Ben Affleck casted as Bruce Waynes .

 

[DallasEast]

I like Tyler Hoechlin, from Superman and Lois, but as long as they get someone with a chiseled jaw, who actually looks strong, I'm good. I never cared for Christopher Reeve, because he always looked like he should be wearing a cardigan and smoking a pipe.

lol ..is Reeves too old school, cheesy, charmy and smirk smiley for ya ..?

I actually thought Christopher Reeves (not to be confused with B&W version of Steve Reeves) actually created the model for Superman character ; ..
before it started expanding into the WB series and then into movies: , Smallville,..... Lois & Clark...Superman and Lois... . New Adventures of Superman.. ..Superboy ...
.. Krypton,..
- and then into the movie series .....Superman Returns.....Man of Steel .... Batman vs Superman ...Justice League ... etc.

Christopher Reeves was a slam dunk casting choice at the time. His dialogue, mannerisms, etc., were genuine for how Superman was portrayed then. Reeves would have no chance of landing the role in the here-and-now since the character has evolved beyond the square version of that era. Just my opinion.

 

[DallasEast]

What are you looking for in an " ideal" Aquaman casting ? Is it a certain appearance look,..or acting performance ?

I am curious also. The Aquaman character has radically evolved in comics. There has been more "Lobo" inserted into his backstory during the past few decades than what was seen in the Super Friends and prior era. DC tried hard giving him a very hard edge. I thought Momoa was a good overall match.

I can get casting idea, because still to this very day,.. i still shake my head with George Clooney, Val Kilmer and of course Ben Affleck casted as Bruce Waynes .

Those three serve as an example of mostly a Hollywood name matched with a part. In my opinion, neither Clooney nor Affleck's acting skills aligned with either Bruce Wayne or Batman. That said, I think Val Kilmer could have performed the best of those three with a better screen play. Production. Director. Co-stars...

 

[Roadtrip635]

What are you looking for in an " ideal" Aquaman casting ? Is it a certain appearance look,..or acting performance ?

I can get casting idea, because still to this very day,.. i still shake my head with George Clooney, Val Kilmer and of course Ben Affleck casted as Bruce Waynes .

I don't think he was miscast as Aquaman and overall liked him, but between the two, he's perfect fit for Lobo. I don't have a perfect casting for Aquaman and there are a few that could fill the role well, but for Lobo, Momoa would easily be my first choice and don't even know who would be a distant second choice.