Comics and Movies

[DallasEast]

The first episode ends with an 'In Loving Memory of Karen Hathaway' tribute. Here is a link to an article based on it. I had no clue who she was, but I thank her for all she helped create.

 

[quickccc]

Spider-Man about to come out though and do it's normal blockbuster bonanza.

DC, did you blow another movie universe launch? Love Suicide Squad 2, Peacemaker, Creature Commandos, Guardians of Galaxy, hate Superman. DC should have just put him over the Supergirl movie if they wanted a Guardians of Galaxy clone. Must be some Tolkien nerds on the DC Board of Directors. One ring to rule them all! Why not just pick several directors and put them in the themes they do best? Even Kevin Feige proved that one person can't hold it all together.

i stilll wonder how much Disney has played a an enormous impact on the great fall of Superhero movies. per Marvel .

At one point other studios and directors were screaming Bloody Murder at how Marvel movies were smashing records and overwhelming other movie openings and box office numbers. Now that seems clearly a thing of the past.

And maybe now everything lies on Avengers Doomsday to pick up the public interest piences again

and DC has always had a tumulous path to superhero movies. All they knew was SUperman & Batman, with the exception of first Wonder Woman, they cannot generate interest at anyone else in th DC world.
Green Lantern Bomb! ...
Aquaman Bomb ...
Black Adam Bomb ...
Joker Follie Bomb ..
Suicide Squad ..Bombed ... ..
The Flash .Bombed ! .

.and now Supergirl ... Bombed !

- All DC studio knows (and confident with) is Superman & Batman ... it's completely Live or Die off those two DC , to even stand a chance. .

 

[DallasEast]

Another thing I have enjoyed very much since X-Men '97's first season has been the episodes' opening intros. The intro was basically the same during the original series run in the 90s. This time around, each one tweaks the intro format. Episode two of the second season has the BEST one so far. For those wanting to see it without the entire episode...

Spoiler

 

[Runwildboys]

Decided today would be the first day I would begin watching X-Men '97 new season. Best dialogue exchange I have heard thus far...

Bad guy: "Fools! Who are you to stand against THAT which is eternal?"

Cyclops: "In our time, we're called THE X-MEN."



It really is a shame watching a 60-year-old giggling like a teenager.

The first 3 episodes have been great.

 

[Runwildboys]

Another thing I have enjoyed very much since X-Men '97's first season has been the episodes' opening intros. The intro was basically the same during the original series run in the 90s. This time around, each one tweaks the intro format. Episode two of the second season has the BEST one so far. For those wanting to see it without the entire episode...

Spoiler

Yeah, I usually skip intros, but as soon as I the different characters, I was like, "It's cool that they did this!"

 

[DallasEast]

i stilll wonder how much Disney has played a an enormous impact on the great fall of Superhero movies. per Marvel .

At one point other studios and directors were screaming Bloody Murder at how Marvel movies were smashing records and overwhelming other movie openings and box office numbers. Now that seems clearly a thing of the past.

And maybe now everything lies on Avengers Doomsday to pick up the public interest piences again

and DC has always had a tumulous path to superhero movies. All they knew was SUperman & Batman, with the exception of first Wonder Woman, they cannot generate interest at anyone else in th DC world.
Green Lantern Bomb! ...
Aquaman Bomb ...
Black Adam Bomb ...
Joker Follie Bomb ..
Suicide Squad ..Bombed ... ..
The Flash .Bombed ! .

.and now Supergirl ... Bombed !

- All DC studio knows (and confident with) is Superman & Batman ... it's completely Live or Die off those two DC , to even stand a chance. .

I see bombs as movies that spend more making and promoting them than taking in money at the box office. Aquaman and Suicide Squad are not bombs for that reason in my opinion. Both movies' sequels were bombs, although I believe Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom may have come close to breaking even.

 

[gtb1943]

I see bombs as movies that spend more making and promoting them than taking in money at the box office. Aquaman and Suicide Squad are not bombs for that reason in my opinion. Both movies' sequels were bombs, although I believe Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom may have come close to breaking even.

to me a bomb is a movie that people walk out of wishing they had not spent the money they had watching it

 

[shabazz]

I see bombs as movies that spend more making and promoting them than taking in money at the box office. Aquaman and Suicide Squad are not bombs for that reason in my opinion. Both movies' sequels were bombs, although I believe Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom may have come close to breaking even.

The movie that always comes to mind in budget to profit margin is "Paranormal Activity"

15k spent and they made around 200 Million at the box office . The "Blair Witch" movie was another good example but I dont recall the numbers.

They are anomalies for sure, but a well run project that knows and respects its core audience is seldom a flop.

 

[nobody]

DC could fix their movie problem in a hot second, but they're too stupid to do it. It would be so easy... Just hire the writers for their animated movies to write the live action ones and STOP letting the executives constantly make changes. Done. Finis. Then they'd have compelling, well-written stories that people would enjoy. Duh?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Hollywood does t want to do it but they are gonna have to lower their budgets on woman led films. It’s just what it is. It doesn’t mean women can’t lead a film it’s just right now it’s not profitable. If the budget was 100 million it wouldn’t be a a bomb.

And the film wasn’t good but bad films gross money all the time.

This just isn’t the era for it. On streaming go for it. Truthfully Supergirl should’ve been a HBO Max exclusive.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

DC could fix their movie problem in a hot second, but they're too stupid to do it. It would be so easy... Just hire the writers for their animated movies to write the live action ones and STOP letting the executives constantly make changes. Done. Finis. Then they'd have compelling, well-written stories that people would enjoy. Duh?

It would fix their quality but wouldn’t fix their box office problem. I think having some compelling stories and characters is a start. Supergirl had a compelling lead just completely done horribly. Which I guess goes to your point of well written story.

 

[nobody]

It would fix their quality but wouldn’t fix their box office problem. I think having some compelling stories and characters is a start. Supergirl had a compelling lead just completely done horribly. Which I guess goes to your point of well written story.

It's obvious the writers of the animated movies 1) do their homework, 2) are fans of the characters, and 3) Are going for story and not agenda. They also seem to suffer from minimal executive meddling. As a result, they're successful and praised highly. They keep handing script-writing and directing to people who don't seem to know the characters and stories and don't seem to care other than cursory research at best. Or get writers and directors who make changes for the sake of changes and wreck the source material, rendering the plot full of holes or the characters unlikable. I don't know.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

It's obvious the writers of the animated movies 1) do their homework, 2) are fans of the characters, and 3) Are going for story and not agenda. They also seem to suffer from minimal executive meddling. As a result, they're successful and praised highly. They keep handing script-writing and directing to people who don't seem to know the characters and stories and don't seem to care other than cursory research at best. Or get writers and directors who make changes for the sake of changes and wreck the source material, rendering the plot full of holes or the characters unlikable. I don't know.

I thought Gunn was suppose to fix this…..which he did the same thing the previous people did hired a writer who didn’t even understand the material which is nuts.

And I get Gunn can’t direct or write every project but he’s suppose to be trusted to hire the right people.

And to hear him speak on some of this crap….Flash the best movie he’s seen, Supergirl
The best script….i enjoyed Blue Beetle more than all this crap released.

I guess Clayface has a chance to fix some credibility if done correctly but damn…

 

[DallasEast]

I thought Gunn was suppose to fix this…..which he did the same thing the previous people did hired a writer who didn’t even understand the material which is nuts.

And I get Gunn can’t direct or write every project but he’s suppose to be trusted to hire the right people.

And to hear him speak on some of this crap….Flash the best movie he’s seen, Supergirl
The best script….i enjoyed Blue Beetle more than all this crap released.

I guess Clayface has a chance to fix some credibility if done correctly but damn…

Originally, I was tentatively excited about the announcement of James Gunn overseeing the transition from the previous DCEU to the new DCU. I enjoyed his original Suicide Squad and Guardians of the Galaxy movies. He possessed a really good 'feel' for adapting the material in my opinion.

He may still have those attributes, but I am thinking he does not have the managerial chops to co-head Warner Bros. Discovery's DC Comics Studios. Tom King wrote the original eight-issue Supergirl: World of Tomorrow series several years ago. Gunn's take?

“In our story, we have Superman, who was sent to Earth and raised by incredibly loving parents. Kara was on Krypton. She was on a piece of Krypton that drifted away from the planet, and she lived there for the first fourteen years of her life in a horrible situation where she watched everyone around her die. So, she’s a much harsher and more <expletive> up Supergirl than you’ve been used to thus far.” (link)​

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So, I believe he was versed on the material. Then he secures Ana Nogueira to write the screenplay. She's on record saying:

But what really made the "Supergirl" experience unique was that the creatives, including director Craig Gillespie, were all on the same page from the jump. "We just all saw the same thing," she says. "And we also had Tom King's comic, which was so helpful, but also [knowing] that you have to leave some stuff behind." (link)​

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'All on the same page'. 'Have to leave some stuff behind'. Cool. That's from the screenwriter. Gunn tabs Craig Gillespie as the director, who had this to say:

"I very deliberately didn't look at Tom King's book when I first got the script. I went off of Ana [Nogueira]'s script and there was a grit to that and I really wanted to come from character. [Kara's] going to all of these different worlds that are on the fringe of society. I wanted to feel the poverty, I wanted to feel the crime and the dust and the texture." (link)​

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Does not seem like the person responsible for constructing the movie was on the same page. Certainly does not seem like he even knew what stuff was left behind.

Perhaps Gunn should have considered adding an expert consultant. Maybe someone to serve as a co-producer. Or a co-writer. Someone who knew the material backwards and forwards. A human resource for knowing exactly what should or should not be adapted by Nogueira. Someone who could have advised Gillespie like, I don't know...

...Tom King?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Originally, I was tentatively excited about the announcement of James Gunn overseeing the transition from the previous DCEU to the new DCU. I enjoyed his original Suicide Squad and Guardians of the Galaxy movies. He possessed a really good 'feel' for adapting the material in my opinion.

He may still have those attributes, but I am thinking he does not have the managerial chops to co-head Warner Bros. Discovery's DC Comics Studios. Tom King wrote the original eight-issue Supergirl: World of Tomorrow series several years ago. Gunn's take?

“In our story, we have Superman, who was sent to Earth and raised by incredibly loving parents. Kara was on Krypton. She was on a piece of Krypton that drifted away from the planet, and she lived there for the first fourteen years of her life in a horrible situation where she watched everyone around her die. So, she’s a much harsher and more <expletive> up Supergirl than you’ve been used to thus far.” (link)​

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So, I believe he was versed on the material. Then he secures Ana Nogueira to write the screenplay. She's on record saying:

But what really made the "Supergirl" experience unique was that the creatives, including director Craig Gillespie, were all on the same page from the jump. "We just all saw the same thing," she says. "And we also had Tom King's comic, which was so helpful, but also [knowing] that you have to leave some stuff behind." (link)​

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'All on the same page'. 'Have to leave some stuff behind'. Cool. That's from the screenwriter. Gunn tabs Craig Gillespie as the director, who had this to say:

"I very deliberately didn't look at Tom King's book when I first got the script. I went off of Ana [Nogueira]'s script and there was a grit to that and I really wanted to come from character. [Kara's] going to all of these different worlds that are on the fringe of society. I wanted to feel the poverty, I wanted to feel the crime and the dust and the texture." (link)​

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Does not seem like the person responsible for constructing the movie was on the same page. Certainly does not seem like he even knew what stuff was left behind.

Perhaps Gunn should have considered adding an expert consultant. Maybe someone to serve as a co-producer. Or a co-writer. Someone who knew the material backwards and forwards. A human resource for knowing exactly what should or should not be adapted by Nogueira. Someone who could have advised Gillespie like, I don't know...

...Tom King?

Yeah I always wondered why these guys didn’t have the comic writers help adapt or like you said hire them as a consultant.

These nut jobs….they had a source material
But didn’t use it and left things behind.

And I like Gunn i like Peacemaker and Guardians. Maybe I’ve been blind. This is his lane. I even liked Superman but it was nothing special. It was Guardians with Superman as a lead. To have him handcrafted a universe of DC characters seems like a reach. He’s in over his head. I’m rooting for him to get out of this hole. If he’s waiting for the next Superman to do it he’s done.

 

[Runwildboys]

Originally, I was tentatively excited about the announcement of James Gunn overseeing the transition from the previous DCEU to the new DCU. I enjoyed his original Suicide Squad and Guardians of the Galaxy movies. He possessed a really good 'feel' for adapting the material in my opinion.

He may still have those attributes, but I am thinking he does not have the managerial chops to co-head Warner Bros. Discovery's DC Comics Studios. Tom King wrote the original eight-issue Supergirl: World of Tomorrow series several years ago. Gunn's take?

“In our story, we have Superman, who was sent to Earth and raised by incredibly loving parents. Kara was on Krypton. She was on a piece of Krypton that drifted away from the planet, and she lived there for the first fourteen years of her life in a horrible situation where she watched everyone around her die. So, she’s a much harsher and more <expletive> up Supergirl than you’ve been used to thus far.” (link)​

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So, I believe he was versed on the material. Then he secures Ana Nogueira to write the screenplay. She's on record saying:

But what really made the "Supergirl" experience unique was that the creatives, including director Craig Gillespie, were all on the same page from the jump. "We just all saw the same thing," she says. "And we also had Tom King's comic, which was so helpful, but also [knowing] that you have to leave some stuff behind." (link)​

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'All on the same page'. 'Have to leave some stuff behind'. Cool. That's from the screenwriter. Gunn tabs Craig Gillespie as the director, who had this to say:

"I very deliberately didn't look at Tom King's book when I first got the script. I went off of Ana [Nogueira]'s script and there was a grit to that and I really wanted to come from character. [Kara's] going to all of these different worlds that are on the fringe of society. I wanted to feel the poverty, I wanted to feel the crime and the dust and the texture." (link)​

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Does not seem like the person responsible for constructing the movie was on the same page. Certainly does not seem like he even knew what stuff was left behind.

Perhaps Gunn should have considered adding an expert consultant. Maybe someone to serve as a co-producer. Or a co-writer. Someone who knew the material backwards and forwards. A human resource for knowing exactly what should or should not be adapted by Nogueira. Someone who could have advised Gillespie like, I don't know...

...Tom King?

Wait. She was on a piece of Krypton that just floated away from the planet? As if gravity wouldn't pull it back??

 

[DallasEast]

Wait. She was on a piece of Krypton that just floated away from the planet? As if gravity wouldn't pull it back??

CRAP!

Thank you for that. I am always telling others to use spoiler tags, but I posted a spoiler. To your questions:

Spoiler

Yes and no. Comic book fantasy stuff. Argo City was home to Jor-El's slightly-less-genius-scientist brother Zor-El. He designed a formidable force field that completely enveloped the entire city in a sphere, including the ground beneath it.

I am trying to remember what type of propulsion helped separate the city from the planet in the movie. Not sure if it was rockets or some form of anti-gravity or even inertia, but the city did 'float' away from the dying planet shortly before the explosion. There would not have been any gravity to attract the city after the planet was gone.

The entire concept is old, stretching back to Supergirl's introduction in the late 50s or early 60s. I know well how you dislike comic book stuff not aligning with scientific principles and law , but I have always liked the surviving domed city approach. That 'inner space' Argo City blah from the original Supergirl movie still turns my stomach.

 

[gtb1943]

Wait. She was on a piece of Krypton that just floated away from the planet? As if gravity wouldn't pull it back??

Supergirl bombed for a bunch of reasons. The star acted like a spoiled brat. The script had more holes in it then swiss cheese. Just a disaster top to bottom

 

[DallasEast]

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I think animated Super Girl is the one I have t seen and it’s winning. But not a shocker their animated stuff has always been good.