Coming around to the idea of keeping the coaching staff as is

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This may sound like I'm rootin for failure but I'm not. I really do hope Garrett proves almost all of us wrong and becomes a great coach overnight.

In regards to the coaching staff I was all for firing everyone at the end of the season even if Garrett is staying. Now I'm leaning more towards just letting Garrett have to same staff as the year prior so the blame cannot be "it's a new system" anymore.

My theory is they will crash and burn next year or at best be mediocre once again and they will clear out the entire staff hire a HC who can then choose his own staff. This year is more of an expected failure but if it works then Jerry gets the credit

There it is ladies and gentlemen...............Hope.

Get it while it's hot. Another year and plenty of it. It's free!

BTW - when this one fails (system) jerry will change it all up, staff and scheme, and it won't benefit the athletes on the field.......again.

That's his way.
 

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jerry knows this stat (insert "jerry listens to fans" here)
that is why he is trying to get a couple of sub .500 teams into the playoffs so we can have a punchers chance

He must be punch drunk. :D

As RS said, Jerry's #1 goal is to feed his ego; anything else is a bonus.

I'm afraid if Redball is going to get it done he is going to have to make some major changes in his every day approach to coaching. He's on his own.
 

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There it is ladies and gentlemen...............Hope.

Get it while it's hot. Another year and plenty of it. It's free!

BTW - when this one fails (system) jerry will change it all up, staff and scheme, and it won't benefit the athletes on the field.......again.

That's his way.

I'll have a big steaming bowl with faith on the side, please!
 

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Not if I owned the team. I wouldn't have any say in the decision of who the head coach is. I'd find the best GM I could find, hand him the keys and get the heck out of his way while he does his job. If, years later, I don't like the direction of the team, I'll fire that GM and bring in another who will have the same authority.

This is what a good owner does.

True, but if I owned the Boys, I would sit in the war room on draft day. :)
 

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I've seen this rallying cry from the Rowdys a lot lately.

What any fan of any team is owed is his team making every effort to win. The Cowboys don't do that. Priority #1 is Jerry's ego. If we can win while appeasing that, bonus. We are set up to fail and left to hope we can overcome. That is an injustice to your fan base.

And the notion that Cowboys fans should lower their acceptance bar and be happy we're not the worst. well you might as well lay the Dallas Cowboys to rest at that point. They would be dead.

They should lower their expectations if not going the Super Bowl is the bar. Parity has arrived in the NFL with the salary cap. Your ego seems as big as Jerry's. You have all the answers just like every other "expert" around here. The Jerry must go rallying cry is not only boring, it's juvenile. He and his family aren't going anywhere. Get over it. Stop using it as crutch every time something goes wrong.

You and the other people that say "you just don't accept mediocrity" aren't better fans, you are just more bitter. I choose to get enjoyment out of my fan-dom. If that makes me a Rowdy than so be it. If you guys seriously hate Jerry that much, I suggest talking to a professional or choosing a different team, because it's not changing. I don't like going 8-8, but I like competing for the playoffs and know that success isn't owed to me because we were really good decades ago. In Romo's 8 years we have gone to the playoffs 3 times and been one game away 4 other times.
 

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Why is it that nobody learns while they're here?

My personal opinion is that Ryan was more entamoeba with the talent he had here than he should have been. He ended up playing far more risky than he did in Oakland or Cleveland, where he didn't have a Demarcus Ware or Anthony Spencer. He thought he had the horses to get away with being more daring, and it bit him in the butt.

Just my opinion...
 

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Surely in his first year in NO, he was disorganized to right? Or could it be with the "injury excuse" everyone's using this year, Ryan had new inexperienced players playing significant time.

No, the reason his NO defense was better was because he kept things pretty simple, or at least simpler than he did in Dallas. I think he overrated the talent he had here, and tried to do too much with it. He came to Dallas with a reputation for exotic blitz packages, and tried to live up to it because he thought more of the talent than was really here. The injury situation didn't help him, to be sure, but the fact that his defense in Dallas was no better before injuries should tell you something. That, and the guaranteed 2 or 3 "***" pre-snap moments we saw just about every game.

I think he learned from that experience and has thus simplified things with the Saints.
 

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How do you use exotic blitz packages and be super aggressive when your offensive counterparts are scoring at a franchise level low for first half scoring.

Tough to be all that when your defense never ever has a lead.
 

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No, the reason his NO defense was better was because he kept things pretty simple, or at least simpler than he did in Dallas. I think he overrated the talent he had here, and tried to do too much with it. He came to Dallas with a reputation for exotic blitz packages, and tried to live up to it because he thought more of the talent than was really here. The injury situation didn't help him, to be sure, but the fact that his defense in Dallas was no better before injuries should tell you something. That, and the guaranteed 2 or 3 "***" pre-snap moments we saw just about every game.

I think he learned from that experience and has thus simplified things with the Saints.

I disagree with these statements, first you have no way of knowing if he simplified the defense in NO and it was a noticable drop off in the defense's production after Lee and others were injured.
 

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My personal opinion is that Ryan was more entamoeba with the talent he had here than he should have been. He ended up playing far more risky than he did in Oakland or Cleveland, where he didn't have a Demarcus Ware or Anthony Spencer. He thought he had the horses to get away with being more daring, and it bit him in the butt.

Just my opinion...

Not a bad opinion.
 

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You called him a proven failure. I'd say 29-27 is pretty decent for a first time Head Coach. I like the direction and make-up of the team. Too many long time Cowboys remain under the delusion that we are owed more because of successes in the past. I'd say the late 90's and early 00's were a failure.

Not everyone is going to be satisfied with mediocrity like you appear to be. Garrett is a proven failure as HC, and not much better as an OC.
 

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I am now 100% on the side of leaving them as is. Dont give this staff the crutch of saying they couldnt win because of so many changes.
 

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the mere fact no one wants to run to Valley Ranch and burn it down after the Packers game tells me JJ has won in making the fans acceptable of this mess to the point some are convincing themselves that next year is going to be better.

No, next year will not be better

The fan base has finally got to the point where if losing doesn't bother Jerry, why should it bother the fans

Most fans have accepted that this team will never win anything under Garrett, just one 500 season after another
 

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It's not similar at all. If you don't have a replacement in hand you shouldn't fire your entire staff, especially when they have a winning record. Everyone thinks change means progress but it is usually the exact opposite.

What winning record are you talking about?

500 is not a winning season

Only way Garrett will ever see a winning season is from the stands after he buys a ticket
 
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