Commanders safety Taylor has deal in assault case - ESPN.com *MERGED*

[Hostile]

Everyone can read, but I don't think everyone on this board is looking at the FACTS & RESOLUTION in this case.

Also, Sean Taylor is not a boy scout. But it doesn't need to be said a thousand times.

You aren't the Jiminy Cricket of this forum. If you don't like reading our opinions avoid logging in.

 

[Yeagermeister]

We tried to leaving this up but it's going down hill fast.

 

[sacase]

Another thing that needs to be noted he doesn't have to be convicted of a crime, he just has to be arrested and accused of one.

Don't belive me, look at the NC rape case. One of the players was on probation in DC and since he got accused of the crime in NC guess what....probation revoked!

 

[Hostile]

Not exactly true.

It depends on the crime being committed and the person's past criminal history. If Taylor had a long rap sheet, the prosecution would've most likely went on with the case. If Taylor wasn't a professional athlete and didn't have any the career prospects that he currently has, there's a good chance this could've gone to trial. If Taylor was being accused of more than just brandishing a gun, this very well could've gone to trial. If Taylor's accusers didn't come out and say "he should still get to play football", this very well could've gone to trial.

I don't blame Taylor for taking the plea bargain, but to think that a plea bargain is the prosecution's way of admitting they didn't have much of case isn't really true.


Rich...........

Good post.

No contest from the defense means they acknowledge there's enough to find some guilt and they wish to avoid prosecution so they plead it down.

No contest from the prosecution means they acknowledge their case isn't strong because the victims aren't innocent themselves.

 

[Hostile]

This isn't exactly correct. Reading between the lines here, it looks like what is called a Deferred Adjudication. He pleads "no contest", the judge finds that there is sufficient evidence to find him "guilty" of the charge but does not enter a guilty verdict. Instead, the judge places him on a supervised probation. If Mr. Taylor successfully completes the probation, the charge will be dismissed and he will not have a conviction on his record. HOWEVER, if Mr. Taylor does not adhere to all the terms and conditions of probation the judge will enter a finding of guilt and can, at the judge's sole discretion sentence Mr. Taylor to the maximum jail time allowed for the offense.

Just a few of the Typical terms and conditions of probation are:
1. report monthly to the probation officer
2. commit no offenses against any law in any state
3. consume no alcohol
4. use no illegal drugs
5. Submit to UA at any time requested by probation

(there are plenty of others but no need to go overboard.)

Bottom line is that Mr. Taylor still faces the possibility of jail time, but if he behaves himself and does what he is required to do, he'll be fine.

Question is: Can he behave himself long enough to get by?

Great post. 100% correct. Wish I had read this before I posted my last.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

But most judges, in most situations, tend to go along with the combined efforts of the two sides to come to an agreement.

I would think that most of these conditions have been taken into consideration.

If not he just needs to GROW UP.

 

[trickblue]

But most judges, in most situations, tend to go along with the combined efforts of the two sides to come to an agreement.

I would think that most of these conditions have been taken into consideration.

If not he just needs to GROW UP.

The judge will likely rubber stamp it...

 

[Hostile]

But most judges, in most situations, tend to go along with the combined efforts of the two sides to come to an agreement.

I would think that most of these conditions have been taken into consideration.

If not he just needs to GROW UP.

That is very true all the way around.

It's fine to be happy he's avoiding jail and you're keeping your player. I think proclaiming him innocent, as some of your chorts are trying to do, is a farce. He's not innocent. If he was innocent, there could be no possible repercussions for future missteps.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Sean Taylor pleaded no contest to a street-fight.

I think they view it as much more serious than that

 

[Bob Sacamano]

This isn't exactly correct. Reading between the lines here, it looks like what is called a Deferred Adjudication. He pleads "no contest", the judge finds that there is sufficient evidence to find him "guilty" of the charge but does not enter a guilty verdict. Instead, the judge places him on a supervised probation. If Mr. Taylor successfully completes the probation, the charge will be dismissed and he will not have a conviction on his record. HOWEVER, if Mr. Taylor does not adhere to all the terms and conditions of probation the judge will enter a finding of guilt and can, at the judge's sole discretion sentence Mr. Taylor to the maximum jail time allowed for the offense.

Just a few of the Typical terms and conditions of probation are:
1. report monthly to the probation officer
2. commit no offenses against any law in any state
3. consume no alcohol
4. use no illegal drugs
5. Submit to UA at any time requested by probation

(there are plenty of others but no need to go overboard.)

Bottom line is that Mr. Taylor still faces the possibility of jail time, but if he behaves himself and does what he is required to do, he'll be fine.

Question is: Can he behave himself long enough to get by?

exactly, I just got a DUI and the judge gave me probation before judgment, so I know all about that

 

[menace]

Let's give it a rest. We all knew what the outcome would be. The fact is, Sean Taylor is not going to jail and that is final. End of Story.

 

[Hostile]

Let's give it a rest. We all knew what the outcome would be. The fact is, Sean Taylor is not going to jail and that is final. End of Story.

Like I told your cohort. You're not Jiminy Cricket for this forum.

 

[menace]

Like I told your cohort. You're not Jiminy Cricket for this forum.

It is great to see cowboy fans all upset about this.

 

[SkinsHokieFan]

It is great to see cowboy fans all upset about this.

I wonder why they would be?

That hit on Crayton in the first game maybe? Or maybe alligator arms Glenn in Week 15

ST now has to prove that he isn't the immature kid he was coming out of Miami. Nice guy, great athlete, but those who have met the guy know he is immature as hell (as many U athletes tend to be right when they come out)

We'll see if he learns from this and can move on

 

[Bob Sacamano]

It is great to see cowboy fans all upset about this.

I'm not upset, in fact, I got one of your cohorts upset

 

[Hostile]

It is great to see cowboy fans all upset about this.

I'm not the least bit upset. I predicted the day the story broke that he'd skate away from this. Well, as it runs out, I may have been wrong. He has 18 months to stay out of trouble or this comes back to bite him. That's a hell of a lot more than I figured on.

 

[AdamJT13]

From the NFL Office's standpoint, this is what happened:

Sean Taylor pleaded no contest to a street-fight.

There is no way he will be suspended.

The NFL's Conduct Policy specifically states that doing just that could result in a fine, suspension or banishment. Prohibited conduct includes "any crime involving the use or threat of physical violence to a person or persons"

 

[Hostile]

The NFL's Conduct Policy specifically states that doing just that could result in a fine, suspension or banishment. Prohibited conduct includes "any crime involving the use or threat of physical violence to a person or persons"

 

[skinsterp]

The NFL's Conduct Policy specifically states that doing just that could result in a fine, suspension or banishment. Prohibited conduct includes "any crime involving the use or threat of physical violence to a person or persons"

The operative word is 'could'.

Per my ExtremeSkins colleague KevinMac -

If this is indeed "no contest without conviction, " it is NOT a plea bargain, no matter how it is
worded in press releases. The end result, after the probation period, will be the same as if the
case went to trial and Taylor was found not guilty on all counts. He will have zip on his record,
not even a misdemeanor, and the record certainly will not reflect any form of "plea." This is
different than a case being expunged from the record. You see this in legal drug cases (i.e.,
prescriptions) all the time. While gun charges are certainly more serious than buying too many pain
pills, the principle is still the same. At the end of the day it will be as if this whole thing
never happened.
I am sure the NFL will try to suspend Sean, and I'm confident that he will have a solid appeal if
he chooses to follow it. The question will be whether or not the arbiter agrees.
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Personally, I think the NFL will only impose a fine and no suspension.
We'll just have to wait and see.

-skinsterp

 

[Alexander]

It is great to see cowboy fans all upset about this.

As stated before, nobody really cares he got off. It was highly probable to begin with. What is annoying are Commander fans such as yourself running around in here talking out of your backsides stating absolutes like "he will never get suspended". When he does, I am sure you and your lot will whine about it also.