Commanders showing interest in Vick, read what their fans are saying!

[Doomsday101]

So there's a fringe benefit to signing Vick then?

Seriously - I would be utterly shocked if the Skins sign him. He was not better then Campbell 2 years ago. He has never had even a 3000 yrd season. And that is just the player, not the person. And the person is even worse...

Say what you want about Campbell's abilities on the field -- he is a stand-up guy. He has handled himself with class when his status was in question not once but twice this offseason.

I agree. Vick did not make the highlight reels off his passing skill, he is a runner that is what he has done and is very good at it but his ability as a QB is far from great.

 

[DallasEast]

Owner will bring in a guy if they feel he can help them. Vick had a 75 QB rating lets not kid ourselves Vick ability as a QB was already coming under major question before he got into trouble, now he is 2 years removed and I doubt he has been developing his skills at the Fed prison he was in. I do think someone will go out and bring him in but I'm one who does not believe it will be as a QB and you better have some very good PR skills because it does matter what your fans think.

My bet is that he'll end up in the AFC West IF someone does pick him up, but it wouldn't be San Diego. Bowlen has had more than enough quarterback controversy this offseason, so I don't believe he's going to Denver. Haley? I doubt that he wants that headache in Kansas City. That leaves...

 

[Doomsday101]

My bet is that he'll end up in the AFC West IF someone does pick him up, but it wouldn't be San Diego. Bowlen has had more than enough quarterback controversy this offseason, so I don't believe he's going to Denver. Haley? I doubt that he wants that headache in Kansas City. That leaves...

I don't think he plays QB. I think the closest thing will be in a wildcat formation. Vick true skill is his ability to run with the ball take away his running skill and he would not have any value in the NFL

 

[DallasEast]

I don't think he plays QB. I think the closest thing will be in a wildcat formation. Vick true skill is his ability to run with the ball take away his running skill and he would not have any value in the NFL

Good point about his appeal as a quarterback, but I think his options are basically nil in any other capacity, scenario, formation, etc.

 

[rcaldw]

I don't blame owners if they "black ball" the guy. I really don't.

I haven't seen or heard protests against players accused of domestic violence against a wife or girlfriend. I haven't seen or heard of protests against players accused of driving while impaired.

Animal rights activists are another story. They are going to show up in every city that the team who signs him plays in and especially in the city where he plays.

If I were an NFL Owner I wouldn't want the grief. Call it a "black ball" all you want. I call it common sense thinking.

I hear what you are saying Hostile, and I think you are right about an owner's consideration.

I'm looking at it from another angle, I guess. I'm just asking about the "rightness" of it. From the standpoint of what is right and fair and just.

I just would hope for an owner with enough guts to say, "if we have given players an opportunity to play who have been guilty of assaulting women, and players who have driven while impaired, then Mike Vick has paid his debt and we will give him an opportunity too."

And my attitude would be, let Peta do what Peta will do. They are about as extreme as it gets anyway. Who gives a flip what they think.

 

[Doomsday101]

I hear what you are saying Hostile, and I think you are right about an owner's consideration.

I'm looking at it from another angle, I guess. I'm just asking about the "rightness" of it. From the standpoint of what is right and fair and just.

I just would hope for an owner with enough guts to say, "if we have given players an opportunity to play who have been guilty of assaulting women, and players who have driven while impaired, then Mike Vick has paid his debt and we will give him an opportunity too."

And my attitude would be, let Peta do what Peta will do. They are about as extreme as it gets anyway. Who gives a flip what they think.

It is not just peta it is a lot of fans who could careless about the organization peta. Chances are he will get a second chance but I find it just as strange for fans here to say give him a chance just not in Dallas. It is alright if some other team catches hell but not my team.

 

[rcaldw]

It is not just peta it is a lot of fans who could careless about the organization peta. Chances are he will get a second chance but I find it just as strange for fans here to say give him a chance just not in Dallas. It is alright if some other team catches hell but not my team.

I can't say what other fans are saying, Dooms, but that is not what I've said. I've said that my reasons for not wanting Vick here, having nothing to do with the dog issues, it has to do with need/fit. I just don't see how Vick helps us. If Vick could help us, I say that he paid his debt, welcome to Dallas.

 

[DallasEast]

I hear what you are saying Hostile, and I think you are right about an owner's consideration.

I'm looking at it from another angle, I guess. I'm just asking about the "rightness" of it. From the standpoint of what is right and fair and just.

I just would hope for an owner with enough guts to say, "if we have given players an opportunity to play who have been guilty of assaulting women, and players who have driven while impaired, then Mike Vick has paid his debt and we will give him an opportunity too."

And my attitude would be, let Peta do what Peta will do. They are about as extreme as it gets anyway. Who gives a flip what they think.

What if an owner has the guts to say that they gave a job to a linebacker which their roster needed? Or what if another owner was courageous enough to say that his team extended a roster spot for a wide receiver needed for their offense? And finally, what if every owner stated they didn't offer Vick a slot on their team because their teams didn't need his services in any capacity whatsoever?

 

[Doomsday101]

I can't say what other fans are saying, Dooms, but that is not what I've said. I've said that my reasons for not wanting Vick here, having nothing to do with the dog issues, it has to do with need/fit. I just don't see how Vick helps us. If Vick could help us, I say that he paid his debt, welcome to Dallas.

We don't need talented players? I may not think much of Vick as a QB but I do think he is or at least was a top athlete. I just find if strange to holler about second chances but not here it is alright that he is some other teams problem.

I think someone will give him an opportunity but no I don't think he is owed anything by the NFL but then I do think it is a privilege not a right and the 2nd chance you are getting is a 2nd chance as a free man and a member of Society .

The ideal that you should be able to come back as if nothing happened and make your money is somehow a given or a must I don't think that is true at all.

 

[casmith07]

San Francisco would be a good fit for Vick because of Singletary's tough hand as well as their need for a QB.

 

[RoadRunner]

San Francisco would be a good fit for Vick because of Singletary's tough hand as well as their need for a QB.

There is no way a man of Singletary's character would tolerate Vick on his team.

 

[Jay]

If he doesn't get picked up, it isn't some crazy conspiracy. He was the best running quarterback we've ever seen, yes, but for actually passing, he was awful. Average doesn't even begin to describe it, he was just plain awful. Look what Matt Ryan did in Atlanta with Jenkins and White, then look at what Vick did.

Now.. add that with the fact that he's been out of the game for 2 years? No matter how desperate my team is, I wouldn't want him either.

 

[Jay]

It is not just peta it is a lot of fans who could careless about the organization peta. Chances are he will get a second chance but I find it just as strange for fans here to say give him a chance just not in Dallas. It is alright if some other team catches hell but not my team.

Why would we want a crappy quarterback or gadget player that will again put us in an even bigger spotlight than we are? We just got rid of Pacman, got rid of Tank, got rid of TO.. do we really want to bark up that tree again?

Come on man.. hey, if someone wants him, then I say go for it, I'm all about second chances.

But I don't want him on the Dallas Cowboys. It's already apparent we have enough trouble with distractions. And really, how will he help us? Some will say the wildcat, I say BS.. I'd rather have someone like Felix back there running that.

You really going to take Romo off the field to put in Vick for a gadget play or two? I like Kitna as our backup, we don't need a glorified wannabe quarterback on our roster. We're already taking up an extra spot for a kicker, we don't need Vick on our team--plain and simple.

He's been gone for TWO YEARS. This isn't a short layoff by any means, two years is a long time to be gone from the pro game.

 

[EndGame]

Washington is awfully close to Virginia Tech country. A lot of Tech fans are giving Vick a pass, and still worship him. It wouldn't completely shock me if the Skins signed him.

 

[Silverstar]

I still say the Rams, but here are the odds on picks....

http://www.usaplayers.com/news/2009...n-what-team-michael-vick-will-join-10527.html

 

[Dawgs0916]

I don't blame owners if they "black ball" the guy. I really don't.

I haven't seen or heard protests against players accused of domestic violence against a wife or girlfriend. I haven't seen or heard of protests against players accused of driving while impaired.

Animal rights activists are another story. They are going to show up in every city that the team who signs him plays in and especially in the city where he plays.

If I were an NFL Owner I wouldn't want the grief. Call it a "black ball" all you want. I call it common sense thinking.

Let me get this straight...your vehemently against signing Vick because of the media circus it would cause right? Not because of the actual crime he committed.

If thats what your saying I agree with you. Because for some reason it really pisses me off that Michael Vick has been satanized because he fought pit bulls, while players who beat their wives, do crack, shoot people, shoot themselves, get so wasted that they kill innocent people while driving, those people get passes and get infinite chances it seems like.

I don't like Michael Vick, and I think what he did was disgusting.

But these players who ruin the god given ability they have, and the opportunity to play proffesional football for things like I just mentioned really makes me mad!

These guys have the world at their fingertips and just piss it away for things that aren't worth it.

People like Romance Taylor, who played just down the highway from me at Belton having a full ride and a huge future at UT, and he couldn't lay off the drugs. These are the guys who should be petitioned against!

Ok i'm done.

 

[Doomsday101]

Why would we want a crappy quarterback or gadget player that will again put us in an even bigger spotlight than we are? We just got rid of Pacman, got rid of Tank, got rid of TO.. do we really want to bark up that tree again?

Come on man.. hey, if someone wants him, then I say go for it, I'm all about second chances.

But I don't want him on the Dallas Cowboys. It's already apparent we have enough trouble with distractions. And really, how will he help us? Some will say the wildcat, I say BS.. I'd rather have someone like Felix back there running that.

You really going to take Romo off the field to put in Vick for a gadget play or two? I like Kitna as our backup, we don't need a glorified wannabe quarterback on our roster. We're already taking up an extra spot for a kicker, we don't need Vick on our team--plain and simple.

He's been gone for TWO YEARS. This isn't a short layoff by any means, two years is a long time to be gone from the pro game.

I agree and I don't want him I find it fascinating how some want to give him a chance as long as it is someone else and not us. Don't you think there are a lot of fans that feel that way? Give him a chance, just not on our team.

 

[BehindEnemyLinez]

I think black balling this guy is the most insane thing I've ever seen. I'm not a Mike Vick fan. And I'm a multiple dog owner who thinks that cruelty to animals is wrong. But a dog is not a human, and I've seen less hubbub about guys who have assaulted women than a guy who went to prison for 2 years and has already paid his debt to society. In my opinion we need a little perspective about the difference between dogs and people.

:bravo:
Like you, I've owned dogs all my life but I still don't understand why MV should receive the "Pete Rose" treatment from the NFL. Ridiculous, IMO, but I do understand why a franchise wouldn't want the negative PR from the dog-kissers and the like, so I really cannot blame them. I guess my contempt is more for the PETAs of the world and not the NFL for trying to stop him from pursuing his football career.

 

[ArmyCowboy]

Cerrato says "no" on Vick

Posted by Mike Florio on July 28, 2009 10:26 AM ET
Well, it was fun while it lasted.

Amid the beginnings of rumors that the Commanders could be thinking about making a run for quarterback Mike Vick, head football honcho (too lazy to look up his formal title) Vinny Cerrato tells Jason Reid of the Washington Post that the team isn't interested in Vick.

Cerrato said the same thing when receiver just as Terrell Owens became available earlier this year, and the team indeed did not pursue him.

So as we dust off the Anti-Vick List, we'll have to add the Commanders.

Then again, they were already on the list.

Oops.

That said, circumstances have changed dramatically in the past 18 hours. And so, as teams begin to chase Vick, we don't rule out the possibility that a team that already has said "no" will at least revisit its position.

Cerrato said the same thing about Haynesworth 3 hours before they signed him.

 

[Jay]

I agree and I don't want him I find it fascinating how some want to give him a chance as long as it is someone else and not us. Don't you think there are a lot of fans that feel that way? Give him a chance, just not on our team.

Oh alright, I wasn't sure if you were fighting for him to get a chance with us. I suppose I do find it fascinating a bit, but then again it just goes to show you that he's not all that special of a player, definitely not what I would have expected at this point. After that win @Green Bay in the playoffs, I figured the possibilities were endless with him, and if he could just become a better passer, he'd turn into an amazing quarterback.

Well.. I don't think he'll be developing into that anytime soon, especially after jail time.

I like dogs as much as anyone, and what he did was wrong, but he shouldn't be portrayed as the worst human being in the world. There's many athletes and specifically football players who have done much worse.