Comparing the Commanders/Cowboys by position

Maybe i went to far with the tight ends. I just believe Fred Davis will be a top 10 tight end by seasons end. lol

But as far as the line backers i 100% would rather have the Commanders linebacker core.

Ware>Fletcher>Orakpo>Kerrigan>Lee>Spencer
 
MichaelWinicki;4131156 said:
I could see a Commander win by say 24-21.

But 41-7?

How in the name of all things holy could you rationalize that score?

I'm using Commander logic...


;)
 
I am getting annoyed with this its not a debate, sorry think what all of the Skin fans want to think, none of your TE's match Witten. Let me make this as clear as i can, when all the sports analysts and players are talking about Witten, none of the Commander TE's ever come up in the same conversation. Unless its "Cooley and Davis cant carry Wittens jock" I am not sorry to say, i dont even care if you like it, even if it was reveresed, and the Skins had Witten, is there anyway in any language, do you compare any of your TE's to Witten. Its showing two things, you dont know the position, and you dont know how what a good TE is.

You think the TE position is another WR, its not, there are more duties to the TE position and good TE's than you are aware of. Allow me to clear up another fact, just because your guy lines up at the TE position, doesnt make him the best TE. THe next posible TE or maybe one spot less is SF's TE. You dont have a TE in that class either.
 
Redskins2136;4131130 said:
Hey, cowboy fan i just thought id share my opinions on how the Cowboys roster compares to the Commanders roster and see what you guys think...So let me begin.

Offense:

QB :
Rex Grossman/Tony Romo- Statistically speaking Romo is a much better qb, but based on what ive seen so far this season, Rex is just not the same ole Rex (atleast so far). Hes limiting his mistakes and has good touch in his throws. Romo is a better scrambler and improviser than Grossman, and hes a little more accurate.
EDGE: Cowboys

RB:
Tim Hightower- Decent vision, Strong donwfield runner and deceptively fast.Also a great pass blocker.
Roy Helu- This dude is fast and agile, once he finds the hole hes gone

Felix Jones-Super fast and great catching the ball in the backfield. IMO not an
every-down back
Tashard Choice-Decent backup, not really great at anything but good at everything
EDGE:Commanders

TE:
Fred Davis- an up and coming star, gets past linebackers with ease and has sure hands and good blocking ability for his size.
Chris Cooley- Has lost a step due to injury but can still get open and make plays.

Jason Witten- Arguably the best tight end in the nfl, decent in riun blocking and and elite pass catcher
Martellus Bennett- Athletic and big but not much of a threat, sometimes seems invisible.
EDGE: Too close to call

WR:
Santana Moss-Very quick and good at running routes, Not a true #1 reciever, but puts up #1 reciever type numbers.
Jabar Gaffney- Possesion type reciever and very reliable on third downs, nothing special but gets it done.
Anthony Armstrong- Very fast burner type reciever, has a tendencey to drop some passes but for the most part reliable.

Miles Austin- Probably out for the monday night game, but any way a great reciver and a threat on offense, true number one type.
Dez Bryant-Fast Strong and a mismatch for most corners, has all the measurables to be a great reciver.
Kevin Ogletree-Good slot reciever, decent threat in the middle of the field
EDGE: Cowboys

OL:
Commanders OL- Better at run blocking then pass blocking. Zone blocking scheme could be a problem when executed correctly. Trent Williams vs. D. Ware is gona be a key matchup.

Cowboys OL- With a rookie starting at RT it will be interesting to see how Smith matches up against our rookie, Ryan Kerrigan. With such a young OL im impressed with the pass blocking, but the run blocking could use some work.
EDGE: Even

Defense

Defensive Line:
RE: Stephen Bowen- Good run stuffer, not as strong as i would like, but has some good pass rushing ability.
LE: Adam Carriker- Very underrated player who is strong against the run and is built like a house, sheds blocks well.
Nose: Barry Cofield- Has a good swim move that makes centers look stupid at times. Not the desired size for a nose tackle, but takes on blocker well enough, but could be better

RE: Kenyon Colemon: Dont know much about Coleman, but I see hes mostly a run support guy with good size and a veteran player.
LE: Marcus Spears : Inconsistant player who could be very good at times. Decent Run Stuffer.
DT: Jay Ratliff- Not the ideal size of a NT, but plays much bigger and is the anchor of the Dallas D-Line, also a great pass rushing NT.

EDGE: Cowboys

Linebackers:
ROLB: Brian Orakpo- Great Power, Needs work on using hands better when pass rushing, always find way to the qb.
MLB: London Fletcher- CONSISTENCY, At 36 years old, Fletcher is still running around making play everywhere on the field, tackling machine.
LOLB: Ryan Kerrigan- So far has shown quick improvment in transitioning from a DE to a LB, on pace for DROY, great pass rusher and creates turnovers.

ROLB: Demarcus Ware- Best pass rusher in the NFL hands down. Not many weaknesses, but can be mismatched in pass coverage.
MLB: Sean Lee- One of the up and coming players in the cowboy defense, but still isn't there yet and has work to do. Decent against the run and plays his zones good.
LOLB: Anthony Spencer- Plays the run good and will be a problem to zone block against. Inconsistent at times.
EDGE: Commanders

DB's:
CB1: DeAngelo Hall- Risk taking corner who has average coverage skills, but also has a knack for causes turnovers and has improved tackling.
CB2: Josh Wilson- Much better in coverage than hall, very fast, but can strugle against taller recievers
FS: O.J. Atogwe- Great Zone coverage man, decent tackler, also has knack for causing turnovers.
SS: LaRon Landry: Very physical hard hitting player, causes lots of chaos around the line of scrimmage. Inconsistent in coverage but has could recovery speed.

CB1:Terrence Newman- Decent coverage, underachiever for the hype he gets.
CB2:Mike Jenkins- Good coverage man to man, not very physical and poor tackler.
FS: Gerald Sensabaugh- Good overall player, Gets his interceptions when targeted.
SS: Abram Elam- Good in run support, but a liability in coverage

EDGE: Commanders

In the end I think the Commanders win a close game by scoring a game clinching Defensive touchdown in the 4th quarter.

FINAL SCORE: SKINS- 27
Cowboys- 17
QB: Dallas
RB: Dallas
TE: Dallas
OL: Dallas
WR: Dallas

DL: Dallas
LB: Dallas
CB: Dallas
S: Dallas

ST: Dallas

See you Monday night!
 
AsthmaField;4131175 said:
You DO realize that both teams play a 34 defense and that you left a starting LB out for each unit?

It is either because you don't know a lot about football, or because you didn't like the way our 4th LB (Bradie James) matched up with your 4th guy, so you conveniently left that position off the list.

So you only wanted to go 3 deep at DL but you also only wanted to go 3 deep at LB, huh?

Way to crush your credibility in your very first post here. :rolleyes:

I know that man i was just getting tired of typing so i just put the first guy on the depth chart for each team. I agree Bradie James is better than Rocky Mcintosh, but not by much IMO.
 
Redskins2136;4131190 said:
I know that man i was just getting tired of typing so i just put the first guy on the depth chart for each team. I agree Bradie James is better than Rocky Mcintosh, but not by much IMO.

You have tired fingers?
 
AsthmaField;4131194 said:
You have tired fingers?
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I'm going to disagree on TE, OL, and LBs. The rest I think the OP pretty much nailed it.
 
It would be more germane to compare the people that will actually play on Monday, rather than a fantasy roster that we probably won't see for some time.
 
Redskins2136;4131130 said:
Hey, cowboy fan i just thought id share my opinions on how the Cowboys roster compares to the Commanders roster and see what you guys think...So let me begin.

So, now it comes down to coaching, which you left out.

;)


But, when your Commanders come down to Texas, the Cowboys will coach them up.

This is not the Dallas Cowboys that you think they are...hell, I don't even know.

But, they are weak and hurting now...so please don't hurt them. Please...!


:)
 
Hostile;4131210 said:
I'm going to disagree on TE, OL, and LBs. The rest I think the OP pretty much nailed it.

I'd agree, to a point. I think their runningbacks look better so far, but I'd offset that with our run defense has been phenomenal. They rank pretty good in yards per game allowed in run defense, but they allow 4.8 ypc which slides them on down to 24th in the league while we stay at 2nd overall with 3.0. Our longest run allowed was by Alex last week, not a designed run play.

Our defense is going to take the run game away and make them force the issue through the air, just as we get Newman back for this game. I really like how that favors us.

The biggest point this game hinges on is our WR corps versus their DB's. If Dez plays the scale slams down in our favor. If he doesn't, then it could be a dogfight of Witten and our back-ups being able to string together enough players here and there to give us 3 or 4 scoring drives.
 
Doomsay;4131236 said:
Winning consecutive games really gives you such a hubristic feeling?

The skins have won consecutive games?
 
Doomsay;4131236 said:
Winning consecutive games really gives you such a hubristic feeling?

No not really, i just really believe the Commanders win this game on Monday Night, especially with the injuries the cowboys offense has, only player im worried about on your defense is ware, and your secondary is Toast.
 
Redskins2136;4131249 said:
No not really, i just really believe the Commanders win this game on Monday Night, especially with the injuries the cowboys offense has, only player im worried about on your defense is ware, and your secondary is Toast.

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SaltwaterServr;4131242 said:
I'd agree, to a point. I think their runningbacks look better so far, but I'd offset that with our run defense has been phenomenal. They rank pretty good in yards per game allowed in run defense, but they allow 4.8 ypc which slides them on down to 24th in the league while we stay at 2nd overall with 3.0. Our longest run allowed was by Alex last week, not a designed run play.

Our defense is going to take the run game away and make them force the issue through the air, just as we get Newman back for this game. I really like how that favors us.

The biggest point this game hinges on is our WR corps versus their DB's. If Dez plays the scale slams down in our favor. If he doesn't, then it could be a dogfight of Witten and our back-ups being able to string together enough players here and there to give us 3 or 4 scoring drives.


I'm so glad that this team is getting younger and stronger. And, I'm talking about the 2nd stringers. ;)

I'm thinking their ready to step up to the plate...

:star:
 

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