Comparing the Commanders/Cowboys by position

Redskins2136;4131307 said:
I'm the one being cocky? I expressed my opinion on both teams and wanted to hear your thoughts, but apparently the Commanders are a high school team and shouldn't even be in the NFL, according to you cowboy fans. Either way we'll find out Monday Night who's real.

For a week, at least your team is tops of the NFC East. Hey, that would flicker a little joy in this Cowboys' camp as well. You have some reason for optimism, and a bone thrown out as such....that was earned. A victory is a victory is a victory, in the NFL. So be it.

As to comparisons, on a whole, you show your optimism. As with any undertaking, there can be discussions that ensue. Not all are correct in context, but some are.

Let's start with QB...from where I'm looking, as objective in an opinion is fleeting sometimes. But this is a discussion:

Rex Grossman has given your team understandable confidence and optimism as well. He had a very good initial period during Exhibition Games, and has started solidly against the opponents that he was given to beat. He successfully did just that...and beat them. That is a positive.

But being a tad more objective, at least in an analysis, one has to also notice that he didn't exactly leave scorched earth in the wake of his journey to the sea.

On the Cowboy side of things...Tony Romo did more than win a game while injured last week. He earned the respect of media, opponents, and most of all...his very own team. Not only does his name appear strongly among accomplishments of all time Cowboys' Quarterbacks: Roger Staubach, Don Meredith, and Troy Aikaman, but he now forged the trust of his entire team for a dominant leadership trait. Simply, guts. He proved, that even if he was severely injured, he'll show up for the fight. In the NFL, that is a major calling card.

All fans know that specifics at play in a single game are more of a functional element. And along this line, Tony Romo will be an injured soldier for yet another two to three weeks...painfully so. Injury creates cowards in all people, the difference being the degree to which one can endure. Tony has a very high pain tolerance as well as functionality. He will show up for the curtain rise...and unless injured even more dramatically, he will be bowing the the curtain falls.

As to his backup, that still falls to Jon Kitna. He may be around his last roundup or two, but he still can get the job done in an efficient manner. He got little off season time on the field, so his time last week was important, as it gets him much closer to starting speed. He will get more looks this week, to holding Tony of the physical aspects in preparations going on now, but Kitna will be much closer to game speed and his productivity of last season once Monday rolls around.

The advantage is still on the side of the Cowboys here at QB.

If continued in the same manner as above, this would take a whole publication to finish...so, I'll just cut to the chase:

Offensively, Dallas is a top 4 in the NFL. It has gone up against a quality defense in the Jets, and a very strong run defense in San Francisco. Despite feast or famine, injury or tragedy, it has produced at a top clip.

I think the real storyline on a comparison between running games, boils down to the injury picture within the Dallas offensive line. They haven't been standing around and scratching their buttes, but this is where the game will be challenged, won, or lost.

I liked Stephen Bowen, before he became a Washington Commander, and have an autographed football of his. But he will be challenged this game as will your two youthful, and good outside linebackers. Last week, Doug Free had an uncharacteristicly weak game. If he is back in stride, with all the line changes going on around him, then with Tyron Smith on the other side, your two young OLB's will have their hands full.

You will have to attempt to explain just how strong and acdept your team is at creating inside havoc, mis-direction, and blitzing up the gut. That is the weakest part of the Dallas offensive line. Kyle Kosier can still be bull rushed, there is a coin flip as to whether the center will be Phil Costa or Kowalski. Then Bill Nagy should be coming back from injury himself.

At least early on, the heat from Washington should be coming up the middle and right for Tony Romo, intensely. We shall see how it goes from there.

But even here, a wincing Tony Romo still has some magic in his wand. And he knows how to wave it.

As to the defense, don't look now, but it is a top four as well. It has become surprisingly stout against the run. Having limited two consecutive and strong running teams to pedestrian levels of turf.

The injuries in the secondary have been this side's achiles as well. But that is a little misleading also. The Cowboys have a league high of what, ten sacks in two games? It also has a pair of interceptions and a fumble recovery. This means a much more intense and effective box area as well. Although there has been some success against the pass defense, it took a downward spiral against San Francisco. Blame that on Smith, or an increase in heat being brought as you may, but the big play has been much more limited, even with the first three slots at cornerback being very limited or completely missing during game time.

Oh, this unit is still unsettled to present, but with Terrence Newman, and Mike Jenkins able to join Alan Ball and Frank Walker, your wide sets should at least have some troubles catching balls downfield. Gerald Sensabaugh and Abram Elam may not be household words at present, but they do show up enough to be counted upon as players.

There is enough questioning to enjoy this next game, in both camps. Both sides have had degrees of early successes. But we are Cowboy fans, and will bite the bullett until the fat lady sings. And this week, there will be a ton of show before she starts to warm up...but so be it.
 
TheCount;4131367 said:
Kerrigan is better than Lee and Spencer after 2 NFL games? Wow, this dude will be the hall of fame by week 14.

:muttley: Warning: the Homerland Security Warning System was just raised to a level 3....lol.:D
 
MichaelWinicki;4131133 said:
I almost stopped reading when you had the TE position as "even".

I stopped reading when you gave the linebacker edge to the Commanders...

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Fred Davis is off to a nice start. The problem is that they're getting nothing from Cooley or any other TE, so Witten + Bennett + Phillips are definitely superior to Davis all by his lonesome.
 
Hostile;4131210 said:
I'm going to disagree on TE, OL, and LBs. The rest I think the OP pretty much nailed it.

I pretty much agree with this Hos...

However if Romo's healthy, not only is it edge to Dallas (as the OP stated), but it's a huge edge... Grossman has looked pretty good so far this season, but he's not even close to the play-maker that Romo is... And the QB position far and away trumps every other position in terms of importance...

Fred Davis is having a great year so far, but Witten had more catches in 2010 than Fred Davis has in his entire career, and only 40 less yards than Davis has in his career (since the 2008 season)... Then the OP lists Bennett as our #2 TE, but any good Dallas fan knows that Philips is easily our #2 TE...

The Commanders have the edge in some areas, the Cowboys have the edge in others, however some of the edges that Dallas has, are edges by a landslide, especially when healthy...

That said, the Skins are playing at a higher level than I've seen in some time, and combined with all the injuries Dallas has, I can't blame Commander fans for being optimistic about this game...

However I still believe that if Romo plays and plays well, they can't beat us...

HTTCowboys
 
sonnyboy;4131275 said:
You're way off. I am making a few assumptions here...

Romo, Dez and Newman play and play well. Maybe a reach, but we'll see.

QB............ Forget about it. Not even close and that's the #1 factor in any matchup. Our guy is simply better in every facet of the game and will stress your defense far more than Grossman will stress ours.

OL............Again not close. Now I'm not going to put either unit in the league's top 10, but our OTs are much better.

Front seven..........Again the edge goes to us. You look at the 11-12 players who'll rotae in and we're better 1-12. And this is where our superior OTs will really be felt.

Secondary........Our injuries give the Commanders the edge here.

But now you look to where that DB edge gets quickly negated.

Recievers..........Gaffeny does nothing special and requires no extra attention. Moss hasn't been special for a few years, but can stll make plays and comand attention. I haven't seen Davis, but I don't think it's a stretch to take our TE's. I love our group with Miles, without him, I'll still take ours.

RB........I like Hightower and he may be better than any of our. Looking forward to seeing him.


Ask Romo's ribs if your offensive tackles are better. Not even close is right. Dallas's OL is a shambles.
 
Comparing teams position by position is fun....but it doesn't mean much when the game starts.

The game really is about matchups.

I'm not sure how we match up with Washington. I haven't seen them much. I do know we're really hurting. If we're healthy at WR and QB, then I don't think Washington can beat us. We simply have too many offensive weapons.

However, we aren't healthy. Miles won't play, and Dez is highly questionable. I don't have a lot of faith in Otree, Holley, and Harris. And, because of our lack of a big play WR, I think Washington blitzes like crazy. I think Romo may be in for a really tough game. Tough in the sense of getting hit a lot.

Defensively, I'm as surprised as anyone about how well we've played without any of our top three CBs healthy. Jenkins has played well. He's beginning to look like the 09 Jenkins. A healthy Newman may make this defense scary. But who knows what he can bring to the table after missing the entire TC and PS?

Shannahan is a very good coach. His teams always seem to find a RB that can gain yardage. And that, is my biggest worry. The zone-blocking scheme Shanny has used always seems to make the most out of the talent he has. I think there may be big plays Wash might make in the run game.

I'm really bummed about heading into this game in the condition we're in. I think it's a very winnable game. If we can force Washington into a couple of TOs, then I think we win (especially, if we can keep away from TOs).

It'll be a very close game.
 
clskinsfan;4131452 said:
Ask Romo's ribs if your offensive tackles are better. Not even close is right. Dallas's OL is a shambles.

Yeah.

They're such "a shambles" that the Cowboys boast the league's fourth-ranked offense.
 
Bizwah;4131463 said:
Comparing teams position by position is fun....but it doesn't mean much when the game starts.

The game really is about matchups.

I'm not sure how we match up with Washington. I haven't seen them much. I do know we're really hurting. If we're healthy at WR and QB, then I don't think Washington can beat us. We simply have too many offensive weapons.

However, we aren't healthy. Miles won't play, and Dez is highly questionable. I don't have a lot of faith in Otree, Holley, and Harris. And, because of our lack of a big play WR, I think Washington blitzes like crazy. I think Romo may be in for a really tough game. Tough in the sense of getting hit a lot.

Defensively, I'm as surprised as anyone about how well we've played without any of our top three CBs healthy. Jenkins has played well. He's beginning to look like the 09 Jenkins. A healthy Newman may make this defense scary. But who knows what he can bring to the table after missing the entire TC and PS?

Shannahan is a very good coach. His teams always seem to find a RB that can gain yardage. And that, is my biggest worry. The zone-blocking scheme Shanny has used always seems to make the most out of the talent he has. I think there may be big plays Wash might make in the run game.

I'm really bummed about heading into this game in the condition we're in. I think it's a very winnable game. If we can force Washington into a couple of TOs, then I think we win (especially, if we can keep away from TOs).

It'll be a very close game.

Good summation, and what is really awkward, is that Dallas has a better idea of the team that it will meet than do the Washington Commanders. And we already know that this Dallas team just doesn't blow any opponent away when itself commits turnovers.
 
CCBoy;4131471 said:
Good summation, and what is really awkward, is that Dallas has a better idea of the team that it will meet than do the Washington Commanders. And we already know that this Dallas team just doesn't blow any opponent away when itself commits turnovers.

to be fair we are installing and working with way more injuries. We have a new DC and his whole scheme is different and some of our coaches have been tweaked, so the turnovers have been fair considering, but it defintely leaves room for optimism for the future.
 
Redskins2136;4131130 said:
Hey, cowboy fan i just thought id share my opinions on how the Cowboys roster compares to the Commanders roster and see what you guys think...So let me begin.

If your here for honest analysis, great.

Redskins2136;4131130 said:
Offense:

QB :
Rex Grossman/Tony Romo- Statistically speaking Romo is a much better qb, but based on what ive seen so far this season, Rex is just not the same ole Rex (atleast so far). Hes limiting his mistakes and has good touch in his throws. Romo is a better scrambler and improviser than Grossman, and hes a little more accurate.
EDGE: Cowboys

If Romo plays and is as good as he was in the 4th quarter/OT against the 9ers, then I agree. I'd say the chances of Kitna starting are better than 50/50, which would make this a closer call, but give the edge to the Commanders. We really won't know until gametime, though.

Redskins2136;4131130 said:
RB:
Tim Hightower- Decent vision, Strong donwfield runner and deceptively fast.Also a great pass blocker.
Roy Helu- This dude is fast and agile, once he finds the hole hes gone

Felix Jones-Super fast and great catching the ball in the backfield. IMO not an
every-down back
Tashard Choice-Decent backup, not really great at anything but good at everything
EDGE:Commanders

Looking at the rushing performances so far, its hard to disagree here. The Cowboys have to hope that the problem has been the Jets and 9ers defenses are really good against the run, and the backs will be more productive as the season goes on. I've watched Hightower and Helu for most of 6 games now, and I'm really not impressed. Also, I think Choice is the 4th best back on our roster, but he still gets PT becaus Felix got hurt and he knows the offense better than Murray or Tanner. I'd change this to compare Hightower and Helu vs Jones and Murray, and I'd give the edge to the Cowboys.

Redskins2136;4131130 said:
TE:
Fred Davis- an up and coming star, gets past linebackers with ease and has sure hands and good blocking ability for his size.
Chris Cooley- Has lost a step due to injury but can still get open and make plays.

Jason Witten- Arguably the best tight end in the nfl, decent in riun blocking and and elite pass catcher
Martellus Bennett- Athletic and big but not much of a threat, sometimes seems invisible.
EDGE: Too close to call

Davis is a true TE, something the Commanders haven't had in a long time. Cooley's a great pass-catching H-back. It remains to be seen if Davis can continue to put up numbers if/when defenses start gameplanning to stop him. That's what Witten's been doing for the past 7 years. Also, Witten and Bennet are better blockers than Davis and Cooley, and its not close. Definite edge to the Cowboys.

Redskins2136;4131130 said:
WR:
Santana Moss-Very quick and good at running routes, Not a true #1 reciever, but puts up #1 reciever type numbers.
Jabar Gaffney- Possesion type reciever and very reliable on third downs, nothing special but gets it done.
Anthony Armstrong- Very fast burner type reciever, has a tendencey to drop some passes but for the most part reliable.

Miles Austin- Probably out for the monday night game, but any way a great reciver and a threat on offense, true number one type.
Dez Bryant-Fast Strong and a mismatch for most corners, has all the measurables to be a great reciver.
Kevin Ogletree-Good slot reciever, decent threat in the middle of the field
EDGE: Cowboys

I give Shanallenhan credit for building a decent receiving corps out of cast-offs and spare parts. Grossman's performances in the first 2 games are even more remarkable when you look at who he's got to throw to. Austin is almost definitely out for this game, and Dez is probably going to go. Ogletree, Holley, Harris and now Robinson are just guys, as far as I know. We'll see who steps up this week. I'd actually call this pretty even without Miles.

Redskins2136;4131130 said:
OL:
Commanders OL- Better at run blocking then pass blocking. Zone blocking scheme could be a problem when executed correctly. Trent Williams vs. D. Ware is gona be a key matchup.

Cowboys OL- With a rookie starting at RT it will be interesting to see how Smith matches up against our rookie, Ryan Kerrigan. With such a young OL im impressed with the pass blocking, but the run blocking could use some work.
EDGE: Even

I really don't have any worries about Tyron Smith vs. Kerrigan, its the middle of the line, especially if its Kowalski and Nagy, that I'm worried about. The Commanders OL keeps improving, but you don't stop Ware with just one guy. But the Commanders get the edge until the Cowboys OL gets settled and proves something. So far they're averaging 2 yards per carry and they've darn near gotten their QB killed.

Redskins2136;4131130 said:
Defense

Defensive Line:
RE: Stephen Bowen- Good run stuffer, not as strong as i would like, but has some good pass rushing ability.
LE: Adam Carriker- Very underrated player who is strong against the run and is built like a house, sheds blocks well.
Nose: Barry Cofield- Has a good swim move that makes centers look stupid at times. Not the desired size for a nose tackle, but takes on blocker well enough, but could be better

RE: Kenyon Colemon: Dont know much about Coleman, but I see hes mostly a run support guy with good size and a veteran player.
LE: Marcus Spears : Inconsistant player who could be very good at times. Decent Run Stuffer.
DT: Jay Ratliff- Not the ideal size of a NT, but plays much bigger and is the anchor of the Dallas D-Line, also a great pass rushing NT.

EDGE: Cowboys

Now, here's where your opinion needs a little more facts and logic behind it. Us Cowboys fans have been watching Stephen Bowen for years, and we know damn well he's not much of a run stopper but he's not half bad at getting after the QB from the inside. Also, you might want to have a depth chart handy when you create a post like this. Coleman, Ratliff and Hatcher are starting for the Cowboys on the DL. But, as bad your analysis is, your conclusion is correct. Very slight edge to the Cowboys.

Redskins2136;4131130 said:
Linebackers:
ROLB: Brian Orakpo- Great Power, Needs work on using hands better when pass rushing, always find way to the qb.
MLB: London Fletcher- CONSISTENCY, At 36 years old, Fletcher is still running around making play everywhere on the field, tackling machine.
LOLB: Ryan Kerrigan- So far has shown quick improvment in transitioning from a DE to a LB, on pace for DROY, great pass rusher and creates turnovers.

ROLB: Demarcus Ware- Best pass rusher in the NFL hands down. Not many weaknesses, but can be mismatched in pass coverage.
MLB: Sean Lee- One of the up and coming players in the cowboy defense, but still isn't there yet and has work to do. Decent against the run and plays his zones good.
LOLB: Anthony Spencer- Plays the run good and will be a problem to zone block against. Inconsistent at times.
EDGE: Commanders

Orakpo and Kerrigan are the real deal, and I have nothing but respect for London Fletcher. McIntosh is a good athlete, but doesn't seem to have the same impact as the other guys. Ware is going to get to Grossman. Lee has really shown up, starting with the Colts game last year. Spencer has been really inconsistent, and James and Brooking are nothing special at this point. I don't really blame you for thinking the Commanders have an edge, but I'm inclined to call it even at this point.

Redskins2136;4131130 said:
DB's:
CB1: DeAngelo Hall- Risk taking corner who has average coverage skills, but also has a knack for causes turnovers and has improved tackling.
CB2: Josh Wilson- Much better in coverage than hall, very fast, but can strugle against taller recievers
FS: O.J. Atogwe- Great Zone coverage man, decent tackler, also has knack for causing turnovers.
SS: LaRon Landry: Very physical hard hitting player, causes lots of chaos around the line of scrimmage. Inconsistent in coverage but has could recovery speed.

CB1:Terrence Newman- Decent coverage, underachiever for the hype he gets.
CB2:Mike Jenkins- Good coverage man to man, not very physical and poor tackler.
FS: Gerald Sensabaugh- Good overall player, Gets his interceptions when targeted.
SS: Abram Elam- Good in run support, but a liability in coverage

EDGE: Commanders

I'm not sure what "could recovery speed" is, but I don't see what you guys see in Landry. He's a missed tackle machine, he's out of position at least half the time, and I'm not impressed with his ball skills either. Otogwe is good, I have no respect for Hall at all, but he's been killing the Cowboys since he got there. We don't really know how Newman's going to look, but I'm looking forward to seeing the starting group out there, and the backups haven't been too bad so far either. The Cowboys secondary was so bad last year, I'll give the Commanders the edge in this one, but really the jury's still out.

Redskins2136;4131130 said:
In the end I think the Commanders win a close game by scoring a game clinching Defensive touchdown in the 4th quarter.

FINAL SCORE: SKINS- 27
Cowboys- 17

I really don't see how anybody can make a prediction without knowing who's going to be on the field. Romo and Dez are 2 of the 3 best players on the Cowboys offense, and we don't know if either of them are going to see the field. I think both team will be ready and fired up. Probably another battle that goes down to the last possession.
 
ShiningStar;4131485 said:
to be fair we are installing and working with way more injuries. We have a new DC and his whole scheme is different and some of our coaches have been tweaked, so the turnovers have been fair considering, but it defintely leaves room for optimism for the future.

Oh, I have absolutely no argument with your included statement...

But to the OP's original direction, I have a querry if he is asking for a cut from the table before dealing:



Washington secondary scrambles to fill holes
By Carlos Mendez

[email protected]


http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/09/20/3383782/scouting-the-Commanders-washington.html


The Washington Commanders might be mixing and matching in the secondary when they play the Dallas Cowboys on Monday night.

They are already down safety Kareem Moore, who began the season on the physically unable to perform list. Cornerback Phillip Buchanon is serving a four-game suspension for violating the NFL's banned substance policy.

Last week, they again played without strong safety LaRon Landry, who missed the season opener and all of the preseason with a strained right hamstring. He also missed the last seven games last year with an Achilles' injury.

Right cornerback Josh Wilson left Sunday's game with a back injury, backup free safety DeJon Gomes suffered a hamstring injury, and backup cornerback Kevin Barnes left the game with cramps.

It's probably a long shot for Landry, the Commanders' No. 1 pick in 2007, to play Monday night. Gomes could be a question all week. Coach Mike Shanahan said Sunday that Wilson's injury wasn't too bad.

Oshiomogho Atogwe and Reed Doughty have been starting at safety. DeAngelo Hall is the starting left corner, and Byron Westbrook is the backup right corner.....
 
CCBoy;4131556 said:
Oh, I have absolutely no argument with your included statement...

But to the OP's original direction, I have a querry if he is asking for a cut from the table before dealing:



Washington secondary scrambles to fill holes
By Carlos Mendez

[email protected]


http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/09/20/3383782/scouting-the-Commanders-washington.html


The Washington Commanders might be mixing and matching in the secondary when they play the Dallas Cowboys on Monday night.

They are already down safety Kareem Moore, who began the season on the physically unable to perform list. Cornerback Phillip Buchanon is serving a four-game suspension for violating the NFL's banned substance policy.

Last week, they again played without strong safety LaRon Landry, who missed the season opener and all of the preseason with a strained right hamstring. He also missed the last seven games last year with an Achilles' injury.

Right cornerback Josh Wilson left Sunday's game with a back injury, backup free safety DeJon Gomes suffered a hamstring injury, and backup cornerback Kevin Barnes left the game with cramps.

It's probably a long shot for Landry, the Commanders' No. 1 pick in 2007, to play Monday night. Gomes could be a question all week. Coach Mike Shanahan said Sunday that Wilson's injury wasn't too bad.

Oshiomogho Atogwe and Reed Doughty have been starting at safety. DeAngelo Hall is the starting left corner, and Byron Westbrook is the backup right corner.....

thank you good read. im also your aware of the team and i wasnt telling you anythign new, i read your posts and you are quite informed.
 
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Davis is a true TE, something the Commanders haven't had in a long time. Cooley's a great pass-catching H-back. It remains to be seen if Davis can continue to put up numbers if/when defenses start gameplanning to stop him. That's what Witten's been doing for the past 7 years. Also, Witten and Bennet are better blockers than Davis and Cooley, and its not close. Definite edge to the Cowboys.
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This is the real deal on position comparisons. I still respect a lot of Cooley. But when one even adds Phillips, who was injured last year, but a very good H-back/tight end in his own right, there is a strong advantage to Dallas. Phillips could well push Bennett out of the picture by next season, if Marsellus doesn't produce more in catches this year.

(on sidebar: I got John Phillip's autograph this summer)
 
ShiningStar;4131561 said:
thank you good read. im also your aware of the team and i wasnt telling you anythign new, i read your posts and you are quite informed.

:) A geunuine, Thank you, Sir.:starspin
 
flashback;4131551 said:
If your here for honest analysis, great.



If Romo plays and is as good as he was in the 4th quarter/OT against the 9ers, then I agree. I'd say the chances of Kitna starting are better than 50/50, which would make this a closer call, but give the edge to the Commanders. We really won't know until gametime, though.



Looking at the rushing performances so far, its hard to disagree here. The Cowboys have to hope that the problem has been the Jets and 9ers defenses are really good against the run, and the backs will be more productive as the season goes on. I've watched Hightower and Helu for most of 6 games now, and I'm really not impressed. Also, I think Choice is the 4th best back on our roster, but he still gets PT becaus Felix got hurt and he knows the offense better than Murray or Tanner. I'd change this to compare Hightower and Helu vs Jones and Murray, and I'd give the edge to the Cowboys.



Davis is a true TE, something the Commanders haven't had in a long time. Cooley's a great pass-catching H-back. It remains to be seen if Davis can continue to put up numbers if/when defenses start gameplanning to stop him. That's what Witten's been doing for the past 7 years. Also, Witten and Bennet are better blockers than Davis and Cooley, and its not close. Definite edge to the Cowboys.



I give Shanallenhan credit for building a decent receiving corps out of cast-offs and spare parts. Grossman's performances in the first 2 games are even more remarkable when you look at who he's got to throw to. Austin is almost definitely out for this game, and Dez is probably going to go. Ogletree, Holley, Harris and now Robinson are just guys, as far as I know. We'll see who steps up this week. I'd actually call this pretty even without Miles.



I really don't have any worries about Tyron Smith vs. Kerrigan, its the middle of the line, especially if its Kowalski and Nagy, that I'm worried about. The Commanders OL keeps improving, but you don't stop Ware with just one guy. But the Commanders get the edge until the Cowboys OL gets settled and proves something. So far they're averaging 2 yards per carry and they've darn near gotten their QB killed.



Now, here's where your opinion needs a little more facts and logic behind it. Us Cowboys fans have been watching Stephen Bowen for years, and we know damn well he's not much of a run stopper but he's not half bad at getting after the QB from the inside. Also, you might want to have a depth chart handy when you create a post like this. Coleman, Ratliff and Hatcher are starting for the Cowboys on the DL. But, as bad your analysis is, your conclusion is correct. Very slight edge to the Cowboys.



Orakpo and Kerrigan are the real deal, and I have nothing but respect for London Fletcher. McIntosh is a good athlete, but doesn't seem to have the same impact as the other guys. Ware is going to get to Grossman. Lee has really shown up, starting with the Colts game last year. Spencer has been really inconsistent, and James and Brooking are nothing special at this point. I don't really blame you for thinking the Commanders have an edge, but I'm inclined to call it even at this point.



I'm not sure what "could recovery speed" is, but I don't see what you guys see in Landry. He's a missed tackle machine, he's out of position at least half the time, and I'm not impressed with his ball skills either. Otogwe is good, I have no respect for Hall at all, but he's been killing the Cowboys since he got there. We don't really know how Newman's going to look, but I'm looking forward to seeing the starting group out there, and the backups haven't been too bad so far either. The Cowboys secondary was so bad last year, I'll give the Commanders the edge in this one, but really the jury's still out.



I really don't see how anybody can make a prediction without knowing who's going to be on the field. Romo and Dez are 2 of the 3 best players on the Cowboys offense, and we don't know if either of them are going to see the field. I think both team will be ready and fired up. Probably another battle that goes down to the last possession.

:clap2: Fair....!:starspin
 
urface59;4131575 said:
Our TE's are even... lulz

You do? Then, following house stakes, I'll see your Davis and raise you a Harris, sight unseen.:cool:
 
MichaelWinicki;4131133 said:
I almost stopped reading when you had the TE position as "even".

I stopped reading when you gave the linebacker edge to the Commanders...

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LLS EVEN? lmao
 
I think there are some interesting comments - and then there are not ..

I am kind of interested about the RB comparisons . One thing that is missed about Shanahans running scheme and his selection of running backs is they need to be good in pass protection, which is why I am never convinced by Ryan Torrain - Hightower is a good blocker for a RB and I think there will be schemes to minimize the impact of Ware as a priority .

Helu and Hightower are very similar runners - that has its positives and negatives - the negative is if you can stop one you can probably stop them both - the positive is the power and aggressiveness will wear down defenses....

The other guys not talked about are the special teams guys ... Gano is rubish as a FG kicker but has the leg for deep kick offs . For the first time in a long time the Skins have a descent punter but still McBriar is probably better (interesting with the shared ausie rules football background) but Banks is a game changer IMO ...

The last couple of games we have played (Commanders cowboys) have been close and good games and they will turn on a key turn over or special teams play and who wants the win more .

I think the Boys should have handled the 9ers (who I really do not rate at all) but they seemed to go in with the attitude - we are the freaking cowboys - of course we are going to win attitude ... the Commanders play like they have something to prove ....

It will be close - too close to call - so I am not going to ...
 

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