Comparison of our offense with/without Dak

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how much credit are you giving the timing, practise reps, preparations, OTA reps, mini camp reps and TC reps to Dak for this? IF anything we should applaud Rush who literally won the job splitting reps with Will Grier and still being able to be productive in this offense with little work in the summer - so much little work he was looking to be replaced.
What are you taking about? Rush got tons of actual playing time in the preseason games. Dak and the rest of the starters got none, which I think is a big part of the reason for the week one dud. Across the league, teams that held their starters out of preseason played poorly in week one.
 

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What are you taking about? Rush got tons of actual playing time in the preseason games. Dak and the rest of the starters got none, which I think is a big part of the reason for the week one dud. Across the league, teams that held their starters out of preseason played poorly in week one.

Yeah remember all the "the Rams don't play their starters and look how great they are?" posts over the summer. For some reason they don't look all that brilliant lately.. but I can't put my finger on why..
 

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You are the same guy who says run defense is "statistically insignificant". Posted without comment.
 

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The pertinent point is that the team is 4-1 this season with a practice squad QB. Either the team is loaded or the practice squad QB is special - little clue, it's not the latter.
 

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can someone re-do this with week 1 on the right side - it really makes a big difference and I want to see the real chart
Some of these are easier to calculate than others, but here are the numbers I could do quickly. I'm counting the entire TB game as Dak and the entire MIN game as Dak because it's too hard to do anything different.

Stat: Rush Games, Dak Games
Offensive Pts: 18, 2
Yards: 22, 6
Rush Yards: 11, 12
Pass Yards: 26, 17
Turnovers: 4, 6
3rd Down %: 27, 8
Sk %: 4, 8

Personally,, I would discount the TB game because I think not playing the starters in the preseason was a mistake. But these are the numbers, regardless.
 

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Cooper rush legitimately had 5 dropped interceptions. I mean throws that a normal db would have caught. He got lucky. 3 against Cincy 1 against the Rams, 2 ish against WASH so probably even more. Turnovers can be misleading.
 

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As long as he plays the same gameplan as Cooper he will excel.
When he tries to do too much, it does not end well usally.
 

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Lmao. Calm down.. lol. I wasn’t implying you said over hyped. I heard others saying that after we beat them. Was a big game until we won it..
Its what's said about us many years when you start out hot.. you go look at opponents win% and point differential etc it why we were favored on the road to team with better record, in some ways they were bit overhyped. that will play out in the coming weeks. Lets see how they handle NE... BB and Judons watching LOL
 

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True and we appreciate it but all those posts about,

"Rush is better suited for this offense" crowd, have no argument.

Ironic they ignored a 10-16 106 yard rams game with 2 fumbles and then the eagles game 3 INts , Washington game got lucky on 2 INTS being called back ete its not like he played perfect, yet Dak has to play perfect or they blame him for losses that are clearly on the defenses or "other"

real fans no Dak is clearly better.


Bringing up 'almost' turnovers? Really? You can say that about any QB so no point in overreaching with that stuff.
 

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As long as he plays the same gameplan as Cooper he will excel.
When he tries to do too much, it does not end well usally.

sorry, thats far from the truth, Daks clearly level or 2 above Rush and can run wide open version of our offense when needed. We've seen it..sorry of you expect him to be perfect still on that GB game as his fault ie weak link as the medias stated. LMAO some truly blind sports viewers, that was terrible defense as was the bears game and we should have won both and the defense absolutely CHOKED, remember that word that's hung on romo, dak and other qbs , well when its good form them , it clearly needs to be said..

the DEFENSE CHOKED the GB game away. a 28 point output and a 14-point lead is all the facts we need, not what happen in the 1st half, not what fans believe the offense would have done more, NOPE, that was straight up choke job. Not only that but add in those 2 INTs were clearly not all on him.. hes fully capable of running a high-powered offense, sometimes mistakes are made, its happened no players perfect. I saw Aikman have many of the type of games , and?? good thing is he brought us back gave us 14 Point lead..thats all the facts, we need to know the GB game was 100% on the defense.

Dak is clearly not mistake prone, has one of the best all time td-INT ratios for the Cowboys. His much-maligned career is much like Romo, defense, penalty's, mistakes around him that could not be overcome somehow because "the QB didn't overcome all OTHER issues", so its on him..LMAO..OK...:facepalm::huh::popcorn:
 

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So, you fail to consider the strength of the opponents Rush faced vs the opponents Dak faced.
You also fail to consider Rush's limited experience vs Dak's six years.
You also fail to consider the coaches restriction of the offense bexause of Rush’s limited experience.
But, I wouldn't expect an honest take from Dak fans,
Who also fail to consider the SIX YEARS OF FRUSTRATIONS COWBOYS' FANS HAVE BEEN FORCED TO ENDURE WHEN DAK CHOKES!
You ok?

It may be time to talk to someone. Honestly, there is way too much misplaced venom in this post to not need to talk to someone.
 

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Cooper rush legitimately had 5 dropped interceptions. I mean throws that a normal db would have caught. He got lucky. 3 against Cincy 1 against the Rams, 2 ish against WASH so probably even more. Turnovers can be misleading.

...and how many dropped INT's has Dak had? Stop with the almost, would have, could have been BS.
 

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Cooper rush legitimately had 5 dropped interceptions. I mean throws that a normal db would have caught. He got lucky. 3 against Cincy 1 against the Rams, 2 ish against WASH so probably even more. Turnovers can be misleading.

Actually the 2 against Washington were not dropped.. I believe they were negated by penalties.. There can be no denying Rush got hella lucky with some of the interceptions he threw. People will counter that all QBs have dropped interceptions and they would be correct.. but I think it's fair to say Rush had an inordinate amount in his 5 game stint.
 

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...and how many dropped INT's has Dak had? Stop with the almost, would have, could have been BS.

Well to be fair people can't contain themselves from posting any time Dak has a dropped INT so turnabout is fair play. If people don't want to hear about it with Rush then quit crowing about it with Dak. Now we both know neither side will ever stop so it's a moot point anyway..
 

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Hmm, let's see. The Cowboys have played both teams (the only teams) that started 8-1, on the road. Rush faced the Eagles, Dak faced the Vikings. Shall we compare?I

Yes. Record is a very poor way to compare.

The defensive rankings Rush started against Yds (Pts):

11 (15)
17 (13)
6 (12)
10 (17)
2 (7)

Avg: 9.2 (12.8)

The defensive rankings Dak started against Yds (Pts):

7 (6)
32 (32)
16 (28)
14 (16)
29 (20)

Avg: 19.6 (20.4)

That doesn't mean Rush was better or anything, but he clearly faced much tougher competition on average.
 
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