Consensus on our day 3 picks....

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From what you said, I assumed, you were justifying the 3rd day, saying it was a special teams draft(on the 3rd day). From what was drafted on day 3, I was not happy. We do not need LBs or more DEs. And I honestly, do not understand trading next years, 6th rder, for a TE, who had something like 10 catches, you probably could of signed him as a FA.

As for the first 2 picks, I am happy. The 3rd rounder, I have no idea, about him.

Dallas took the first LB because he has versatility to play all three positions, after the loss of Carter and Durant. The guys we picked up this Offseason @ LB were on the street for a reason. They Drafted a DE that is versatile as well, he can play inside or outside in a 4/3. The TE is a positional need for a blocking specialist, obviously a Dallas looks see, with comp choices coming in 2016 it was a painless trade.

The 3rd round OT like Gibson is a mauler with a high ceiling but who can also play each position along the OLine.
 

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Dallas took the first LB because he has versatility to play all three positions, after the loss of Carter and Durant. The guys we picked up this Offseason @ LB were on the street for a reason. They Drafted a DE that is versatile as well, he can play inside or outside in a 4/3. The TE is a positional need for a blocking specialist, obviously a Dallas looks see, with comp choices coming in 2016 it was a painless trade.

The 3rd round OT like Gibson is a mauler with a high ceiling who can play each position along the OLine.

There are only a couple OL, who could play multiple potions, that were very successful, at one. I doubt he falls in that category, but I am not going to pick apart that selection. I like that they took a T. Same, goes for other positions, jack of all trades master of none, screams depth pick, not shooting for a starter or a KR. Dallas just gave, 2 LBs a little more than avg coin to sign, then they draft a couple DE and LB. With Gregory, that makes 3 DE's who can start, after Hardys suspension. Then add Mincey, so the Purdue DE, makes 5, if no other DE from last year sticks? I feel, DT and KR should of been addressed, rather than depth for positions where they have no chance to crack the starting lineup.
 

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The 3rd rounder, I have no idea, about him.

Our coaches got good intel from his position coach because they know each other. With that inside track and the scouting reports he looked like a great fit so we pulled the trigger.
 

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Isn't Meh sorta the normal thing to say about 7th rounders? This guy isn't much of a player but he has a trait or two we like.

Yeah, you're right.

Still, sometimes we will take a guy in the 6th or 7th that will get me a little fired up (I liked Ratliff a lot in 05). You are correct though... it almost always is meh.
 

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Our coaches got good intel from his position coach because they know each other. With that inside track and the scouting reports he looked like a great fit so we pulled the trigger.

I hope you are right. I am hoping after this year, Free is unseated.
 

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This whole draft stinks of Bryan Broaddus........

Listened to the draftshow 3 days prior to the draft....and alot of the picks he was screaming about. (Green / Gibson) plus the fact he was leading the charge Against Ajayi.....that should have thrown up a red flag right there.

He's definately got someones attention in the building.

Personally.....I don't think he's that great of a scout. There is a reason he is an ex-scout.

And looking @ day 3s picks......You can tell they over thought the process.

Broaddus has zero impact on what the Cowboys do in the draft. If anything that Broaddus said is similar to what actually happened, it's because he over-heard things from the Cowboys real scouts or coaches.
 

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This whole draft stinks of Bryan Broaddus........

Listened to the draftshow 3 days prior to the draft....and alot of the picks he was screaming about. (Green / Gibson) plus the fact he was leading the charge Against Ajayi.....that should have thrown up a red flag right there.

He's definately got someones attention in the building.

Personally.....I don't think he's that great of a scout. There is a reason he is an ex-scout.

And looking @ day 3s picks......You can tell they over thought the process.
You've got your causality arrow pointed the wrong way.
 

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This whole draft stinks of Bryan Broaddus........

Listened to the draftshow 3 days prior to the draft....and alot of the picks he was screaming about. (Green / Gibson) plus the fact he was leading the charge Against Ajayi.....that should have thrown up a red flag right there.

He's definately got someones attention in the building.

Personally.....I don't think he's that great of a scout. There is a reason he is an ex-scout.

And looking @ day 3s picks......You can tell they over thought the process.

Face it Floaty... Ajayi sucks.
 

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I hope you are right. I am hoping after this year, Free is unseated.

What I typed is a recap from the discussion I heard on The Ticket. So It's not me it's the coaching staff and brass at VR.
 

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Check the 2009 draft, been there done that.
Eh...the 2009 class was weak altogether and they drafted those guys much earlier than they did this year. What's wrong with drafting ST players with high upside in the 6th and 7th round?
 

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Eh...the 2009 class was weak altogether and they drafted those guys much earlier than they did this year. What's wrong with drafting ST players with high upside in the 6th and 7th round?

I think it is ok, if you actually accomplish this, such as a KR or P.
 

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I think it is ok, if you actually accomplish this, such as a KR or P.
Coverage guys - like Nzeocha if he can stick - are just as important as returners, especially with KRs being virtually non-existent in today's game.
 

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Coverage guys - like Nzeocha if he can stick - are just as important as returners, especially with KRs being virtually non-existent in today's game.

It is possible, but that is being very optimistic. I think a returner, is a little more important, unless you are drafting Bill Bates 2.0.
 

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Face it Floaty... Ajayi sucks.

Oh just stop..........Is that why Miami is already to cut bait w/ Lamar Miller after one rookie mini camp? Miami knows they got a steal......and not a single peep out of their camp about a "knee injury"........

Cowboys may have had a good draft. But they could have had a draft for the ages.
 

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Oh just stop..........Is that why Miami is already to cut bait w/ Lamar Miller after one rookie mini camp? Miami knows they got a steal......and not a single peep out of their camp about a "knee injury"........

Cowboys may have had a good draft. But they could have had a draft for the ages.

It hurts when they don't draft your pet cat.
 

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:laugh:Consensus after the first 50 picks much less 100. Talk about ignorant to the process.

Every year around here there are 2 posters that go on and on about the same issue. If the Cowboys draft any players not highly ranked by the draft media, then it had to be a terrible pick or pick(s). Last year is was Hitchens.

They just can't or won't grasp that the draft media is terribly inaccurate, especially after the top 50 or so picks. It is easy enough to look at the draft media rankings at any point after the draft and see that their accuracy was really bad regardless of whether you judge it by how teams really drafted or if you wait a few years to see how players fared in the NFL.

Personally, I can't study 300 players in depth every year, but after the draft I can go back and review the game footage of players the Cowboys drafted and form an opinion.

I would be concerned if the Cowboys drafting actually matched the draft media rankings exactly. It seems that their draft picks in the bad drafting years were often not far from the draft media rankings. The draft media and fans loved AOA and the Cowboys picked him right where the draft media had him ranked. He was terrific on paper, but could not play a lick in the NFL.

These 2 posters will even go back years to extend this moaning and groaning. Chris Whaley would have been a mid round pick if he was healthy and in this year's draft. I don't see how anybody can watch game footage of some of the mid round DTs and not believe that Whaley's game footage is right there with them. These posters will also continue to beat down any late round picks or UDFAs as trash, completely ignoring the fact that the Cowboys have had a lot of success with those types of players.

Thankfully, the Jerry/Garrett rant zone was created which was a great punch in the gut to the moaners and groaners. Now they have to over-focus on the Cowboys late round picks not being an exact match the the draft media, despite the fact that there is no consensus by the draft media on mid to later round prospects.
 

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Every year around here there are 2 posters that go on and on about the same issue. If the Cowboys draft any players not highly ranked by the draft media, then it had to be a terrible pick or pick(s). Last year is was Hitchens.

They just can't or won't grasp that the draft media is terribly inaccurate, especially after the top 50 or so picks. It is easy enough to look at the draft media rankings at any point after the draft and see that their accuracy was really bad regardless of whether you judge it by how teams really drafted or if you wait a few years to see how players fared in the NFL.

Personally, I can't study 300 players in depth every year, but after the draft I can go back and review the game footage of players the Cowboys drafted and form an opinion.

I would be concerned if the Cowboys drafting actually matched the draft media rankings exactly. It seems that their draft picks in the bad drafting years were often not far from the draft media rankings. The draft media and fans loved AOA and the Cowboys picked him right where the draft media had him ranked. He was terrific on paper, but could not play a lick in the NFL.

These 2 posters will even go back years to extend this moaning and groaning. Chris Whaley would have been a mid round pick if he was healthy and in this year's draft. I don't see how anybody can watch game footage of some of the mid round DTs and not believe that Whaley's game footage is right there with them. These posters will also continue to beat down any late round picks or UDFAs as trash, completely ignoring the fact that the Cowboys have had a lot of success with those types of players.

Thankfully, the Jerry/Garrett rant zone was created which was a great punch in the gut to the moaners and groaners. Now they have to over-focus on the Cowboys late round picks not being an exact match the the draft media, despite the fact that there is no consensus by the draft media on mid to later round prospects.

Yup I call it going after low hanging fruit. Go after the 4th round picks that have a success rate of less than 1 in 5 and then pretend like you know something when they fail. So edgy.
 
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